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Whty the hell do we want to start talkign about another "failed state"??? To get it on the list for when we pull out of Iraq maybe??

 

When will people realise it's us meddling in these places that are 95% of the problem..........

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Whty the hell do we want to start talkign about another "failed state"??? To get it on the list for when we pull out of Iraq maybe??

 

When will people realise it's us meddling in these places that are 95% of the problem..........

 

The US are occupying or bombing 5 muslim countries now - occupation of Iraq, twice-escalated war in Afghanistan, rapidly escalating bombing campaigns in Pakistan and Yemen, and various forms of covert war involvement in Somalia.

 

Fuck Yeah!

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Whty the hell do we want to start talkign about another "failed state"??? To get it on the list for when we pull out of Iraq maybe??

 

When will people realise it's us meddling in these places that are 95% of the problem..........

 

The US are occupying or bombing 5 muslim countries now - occupation of Iraq, twice-escalated war in Afghanistan, rapidly escalating bombing campaigns in Pakistan and Yemen, and various forms of covert war involvement in Somalia.

 

Fuck Yeah!

 

They regularly bombed Iraq throughout the 90s under the UN no fly zone gig,and obviously the anti soviet activity in the 80s in USSR occupied Afghanistan where George Bush senior armed,trained and financed a racy young shaver called Osama Bin Laden......a lot of the problems we now have in the world are due to US foreign policy disasters in the recent past....makes you proud doesn't it?

 

Does Yemen sit on a huge lake of oil by any chance?......

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Does Yemen sit on a huge lake of oil by any chance?......

 

 

My thoughts exactly!

 

It's been a major producer since the early 80's although recently production has been down

 

Interestingly it was thought to be the last place you'd look but an Egyptian geophysicist looked at some old Russian data and decided it was worth a punt - he was thrown out of every oil company office he went into until some mad-arsed geologists at Hunt Oil in London decided it was worth a shot ( 100-1 they reckoned the odds) - they found a bucket load and the Egyptian guy had a 3% override on over 100,000 bbl a day - nice work eh?

 

The main companies involved these days are Canadians I think

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Here is news of the Third World War. The United States has invaded Africa. US troops have entered Somalia, extending their war front from Afghanistan and Pakistan to Yemen and now the Horn of Africa. In preparation for an attack on Iran, "bunker-buster" bombs are said to be arriving at the US base on the British island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.

 

In Gaza, the sick and abandoned population, mostly children, is being entombed behind underground American-supplied walls to reinforce a criminal siege. In Latin America, the Obama administration has secured seven bases in Colombia from which to wage a war of attrition against the popular democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay. Meanwhile, the secretary of "defence", Robert Gates, complains that "the general [European] public and the political class" are so opposed to war, they are an "impediment" to peace. Remember, this is the month of the March Hare.

 

According to an American general, the invasion of Afghanistan is not so much a real war as a "war of perception". Thus, the recent "liberation of the city of Marjah" from the Taliban's "command-and-control structure" was pure Hollywood. Marjah is not a city; there was no Taliban command and control. The heroic liberators killed the usual civilians, the poorest of the poor. Otherwise, it was fake. A war of perception is meant to provide fake news for the folks back home, to make a failed colonial adventure seem worthwhile and patriotic, as if The Hurt Locker were real and the parades of flag-wrapped coffins through Wootton Bassett were not a cynical propaganda exercise.

 

Silent witness

“War is fun", the helmets in Vietnam used to say with bleakest irony, meaning that if a war is shown to have no purpose other than to justify voracious power in the cause of lucrative fanaticisms such as the weapons industry, the danger of truth beckons. This danger can be illustrated by comparing the liberal perception of Tony Blair in 1997 as one "who wants to create a world [where] ideology has surrendered entirely to 'values'" (Hugo Young, the Guardian) to the public reckoning today of a liar and war criminal.

 

Western war-states such as the US and Britain are threatened not by the Taliban or any other introverted tribesmen in faraway places, but by the anti-war instincts of their own citizens. Consider the draconian sentences handed down in London to scores of young people who protested against Israel's assault on Gaza in January last year. Following demonstrations in which paramilitary police "kettled" thousands, first offenders have received two and a half years in prison for minor offences that would not normally carry a custodial sentence. On both sides of the Atlantic, serious dissent exposing illegal war has become a serious crime.

 

Silence in other high places allows this moral travesty. Across the arts, literature, journalism and the law, liberal elites, having hurried away from the debris of Blair and now Obama, continue to fudge their indifference to the barbarism and aims of western state crimes by promoting retrospectively the evils of their convenient demons, such as Saddam Hussein. With Harold Pinter gone, try compiling a list of well-known writers, artists and advocates whose principles are not consumed by the "market" or neutered by their celebrity. Who among them has spoken out about the holocaust in Iraq during almost 20 years of lethal blockade and assault? And all of it has been deliberate. On 22 January 1991, the US Defence Intelligence Agency predicted in impressive detail how a blockade would systematically destroy Iraq's clean water system and lead to "increased incidences, if not epidemics, of disease". So the US set about eliminating clean water for the Iraqi population: one of the causes, Unicef noted, of the deaths of half a million Iraqi infants under the age of five. But this extremism apparently has no name.

 

Partners in crime

Norman Mailer once said he believed the US, in its endless pursuit of war and domination, had entered a "pre-fascist era". Mailer seemed tentative, as if trying to warn about something even he could not quite define. "Fascism" is not right, for it invokes lazy historical precedents, conjuring yet again the iconography of German and Italian repression. On the other hand, American authoritarianism, as the American cultural critic Henry Giroux pointed out recently, is "more nuance, less theatrical, more cunning, less concerned with repressive modes of control than with manipulative modes of consent".

 

This is Americanism, the only predatory ideology to deny that it is an ideology. The rise of tentacular corporations that are dictatorships in their own right and of a military that is now a state within the state, set behind the façade of the best democracy 35,000 Washington lobbyists can buy, and a popular culture programmed to divert and stultify, is without precedent. More nuanced, perhaps, but the results are unambiguous. Denis Halliday and Hans von Sponeck, the senior UN officials in Iraq during the US- and British-led blockade, are in no doubt they witnessed genocide. They saw no gas chambers. Insidious, undeclared, even presented wittily as enlightenment on the march, the Third World War and its genocide proceeded, human being by human being.

 

In the coming election campaign in Britain, the candidates will refer to this war only to laud "our boys". The candidates are almost identical political mummies, shrouded in the Union Jack and the Stars and Stripes. As Blair demonstrated a mite too eagerly, the British elite love America because America allows them to barrack and bomb the natives and call themselves "partners". We should interrupt their fun.

 

http://www.newstatesman.com/global-issues/...lger-obama-iraq

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It's not really about Yemen. It's about the World War 3 being waged with the US as aggressor but greeted with indifference by the western media.

 

Colombian bases to wage a war of attrition against democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay in addition to all out bombing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen, the Horn of Africa.....Iran next.

 

 

Just popped it in here cos i'd posted a shorter comment to that effect in January.

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It's not really about Yemen. It's about the World War 3 being waged with the US as aggressor but greeted with indifference by the western media.

 

Colombian bases to wage a war of attrition against democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay in addition to all out bombing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen, the Horn of Africa.....Iran next.

 

 

Just popped it in here cos i'd posted a shorter comment to that effect in January.

 

They better get their act together cause a good old home revolution will kick off this year...Can they fight home and abroad?? Fuckheads!1 Also I really don't think they can hit Iran this year...Maybe Israel will...But it is a big risk cause sure as shit Iran will hit all the oil refineries and once hit they stay hit - take months to fix an all.

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It's not really about Yemen. It's about the World War 3 being waged with the US as aggressor but greeted with indifference by the western media.

 

Colombian bases to wage a war of attrition against democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay in addition to all out bombing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen, the Horn of Africa.....Iran next.

 

 

Just popped it in here cos i'd posted a shorter comment to that effect in January.

 

They better get their act together cause a good old home revolution will kick off this year...Can they fight home and abroad?? Fuckheads!1 Also I really don't think they can hit Iran this year...Maybe Israel will...But it is a big risk cause sure as shit Iran will hit all the oil refineries and once hit they stay hit - take months to fix an all.

 

 

Hmm - not sure about the USA rising in flames Parky - a few stupid militia men aren't really gong to hack it - it'll be like John Brown all over again

 

and there are relatively few oil refineries in the Gulf - the pumping stations are targets and so are the tankers but Iran didn't have much luck cutting off the Iraqi oil in the 1980's IIRC - they'll prbably stir the s*** on the ground tho@

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It's not really about Yemen. It's about the World War 3 being waged with the US as aggressor but greeted with indifference by the western media.

 

Colombian bases to wage a war of attrition against democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay in addition to all out bombing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen, the Horn of Africa.....Iran next.

 

 

Just popped it in here cos i'd posted a shorter comment to that effect in January.

 

Utter rubbish

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It's not really about Yemen. It's about the World War 3 being waged with the US as aggressor but greeted with indifference by the western media.

 

Colombian bases to wage a war of attrition against democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay in addition to all out bombing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen, the Horn of Africa.....Iran next.

 

 

Just popped it in here cos i'd posted a shorter comment to that effect in January.

 

Utter rubbish

 

What is it about then?

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It's not really about Yemen. It's about the World War 3 being waged with the US as aggressor but greeted with indifference by the western media.

 

Colombian bases to wage a war of attrition against democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay in addition to all out bombing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen, the Horn of Africa.....Iran next.

 

 

Just popped it in here cos i'd posted a shorter comment to that effect in January.

 

They better get their act together cause a good old home revolution will kick off this year...Can they fight home and abroad?? Fuckheads!1 Also I really don't think they can hit Iran this year...Maybe Israel will...But it is a big risk cause sure as shit Iran will hit all the oil refineries and once hit they stay hit - take months to fix an all.

 

 

Hmm - not sure about the USA rising in flames Parky - a few stupid militia men aren't really gong to hack it - it'll be like John Brown all over again

 

and there are relatively few oil refineries in the Gulf - the pumping stations are targets and so are the tankers but Iran didn't have much luck cutting off the Iraqi oil in the 1980's IIRC - they'll prbably stir the s*** on the ground tho@

 

 

They weren't all silkwormed up then though were they? Keep up man!!

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It's not really about Yemen. It's about the World War 3 being waged with the US as aggressor but greeted with indifference by the western media.

 

Colombian bases to wage a war of attrition against democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay in addition to all out bombing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen, the Horn of Africa.....Iran next.

 

 

Just popped it in here cos i'd posted a shorter comment to that effect in January.

 

Utter rubbish

 

What is it about then?

 

 

What it's about wasn't my point, but "it" is not in any shape or form a WWIII. It's hardy "all out bombing" either, it should be, but it isn't

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It's not really about Yemen. It's about the World War 3 being waged with the US as aggressor but greeted with indifference by the western media.

 

Colombian bases to wage a war of attrition against democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay in addition to all out bombing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen, the Horn of Africa.....Iran next.

 

 

Just popped it in here cos i'd posted a shorter comment to that effect in January.

 

They better get their act together cause a good old home revolution will kick off this year...Can they fight home and abroad?? Fuckheads!1 Also I really don't think they can hit Iran this year...Maybe Israel will...But it is a big risk cause sure as shit Iran will hit all the oil refineries and once hit they stay hit - take months to fix an all.

 

 

Hmm - not sure about the USA rising in flames Parky - a few stupid militia men aren't really gong to hack it - it'll be like John Brown all over again

 

and there are relatively few oil refineries in the Gulf - the pumping stations are targets and so are the tankers but Iran didn't have much luck cutting off the Iraqi oil in the 1980's IIRC - they'll prbably stir the s*** on the ground tho@

 

 

They weren't all silkwormed up then though were they? Keep up man!!

 

 

No one really knows what the performance in action of a Silkworm is tho'

 

Given the general ability of arms manufacturers to exaggerate efficiency and the fact that these were built by the Chinese some time ago and are maintained & operated by Mad Mullah Aerospace I'd guess they aren't all going to work. The western naval ships can probably deal with a direct threat - the question is can they protect the tankers or take out the firing sites ......................

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It's not really about Yemen. It's about the World War 3 being waged with the US as aggressor but greeted with indifference by the western media.

 

Colombian bases to wage a war of attrition against democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay in addition to all out bombing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen, the Horn of Africa.....Iran next.

 

 

Just popped it in here cos i'd posted a shorter comment to that effect in January.

 

They better get their act together cause a good old home revolution will kick off this year...Can they fight home and abroad?? Fuckheads!1 Also I really don't think they can hit Iran this year...Maybe Israel will...But it is a big risk cause sure as shit Iran will hit all the oil refineries and once hit they stay hit - take months to fix an all.

 

 

Hmm - not sure about the USA rising in flames Parky - a few stupid militia men aren't really gong to hack it - it'll be like John Brown all over again

 

and there are relatively few oil refineries in the Gulf - the pumping stations are targets and so are the tankers but Iran didn't have much luck cutting off the Iraqi oil in the 1980's IIRC - they'll prbably stir the s*** on the ground tho@

 

 

They weren't all silkwormed up then though were they? Keep up man!!

 

 

No one really knows what the performance in action of a Silkworm is tho'

 

Given the general ability of arms manufacturers to exaggerate efficiency and the fact that these were built by the Chinese some time ago and are maintained & operated by Mad Mullah Aerospace I'd guess they aren't all going to work. The western naval ships can probably deal with a direct threat - the question is can they protect the tankers or take out the firing sites ......................

 

I think the Yanks and the Zionists are in for a massive shock if they attack Iran...

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It's not really about Yemen. It's about the World War 3 being waged with the US as aggressor but greeted with indifference by the western media.

 

Colombian bases to wage a war of attrition against democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and Paraguay in addition to all out bombing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza, Somalia, Yemen, the Horn of Africa.....Iran next.

 

 

Just popped it in here cos i'd posted a shorter comment to that effect in January.

 

They better get their act together cause a good old home revolution will kick off this year...Can they fight home and abroad?? Fuckheads!1 Also I really don't think they can hit Iran this year...Maybe Israel will...But it is a big risk cause sure as shit Iran will hit all the oil refineries and once hit they stay hit - take months to fix an all.

 

 

Hmm - not sure about the USA rising in flames Parky - a few stupid militia men aren't really gong to hack it - it'll be like John Brown all over again

 

and there are relatively few oil refineries in the Gulf - the pumping stations are targets and so are the tankers but Iran didn't have much luck cutting off the Iraqi oil in the 1980's IIRC - they'll prbably stir the s*** on the ground tho@

 

 

They weren't all silkwormed up then though were they? Keep up man!!

 

 

No one really knows what the performance in action of a Silkworm is tho'

 

Given the general ability of arms manufacturers to exaggerate efficiency and the fact that these were built by the Chinese some time ago and are maintained & operated by Mad Mullah Aerospace I'd guess they aren't all going to work. The western naval ships can probably deal with a direct threat - the question is can they protect the tankers or take out the firing sites ......................

 

I think the Yanks and the Zionists are in for a massive shock if they attack Iran...

 

 

Indeed

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New wikileaks release

 

The Yemen Files offer documentary evidence of the US arming, training and funding of Yemeni forces in the years building up to the war. The documents reveal, among other things, procurement of many different weapon types: aircrafts, vessels, vehicles, proposals for maritine border security control and Yemeni procurement of US biometric systems.

 

https://wikileaks.org/yemen-files/?saudi

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New wikileaks release

 

The Yemen Files offer documentary evidence of the US arming, training and funding of Yemeni forces in the years building up to the war. The documents reveal, among other things, procurement of many different weapon types: aircrafts, vessels, vehicles, proposals for maritine border security control and Yemeni procurement of US biometric systems.

 

https://wikileaks.org/yemen-files/?saudi

Tbh I don't trust wikileaks anymore

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You might distrust their motives due to some ridiculous notion that reporters are duty bound to find scandals that relate to both sides or else hold onto material they obtain until they do have something on the other side. But they have an entirely unblemished and unchallenged record of over 10 million documents released being completely authentic.

Why would you have any reason to doubt this release?

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You might distrust their motives due to some ridiculous notion that reporters are duty bound to find scandals that relate to both sides or else hold onto material they obtain until they do have something on the other side. But they have an entirely unblemished and unchallenged record of over 10 million documents released being completely authentic.

 

Why would you have ant reason to doubt this release?

 

Previous military experience + political awareness of course ;)

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Because I believe they now have a political pro alt right agenda and anyone with an agenda is liable to make shit up.

 

:lol:

 

Amazing to me that anyone actually goes along with this nonsense.

 

Even worse to choose to put blinkers on and disregard any revelations from genuine leaks because of such accusations.

 

"No, not having it, I'd rather not know what's going on than learn about it from that lot!"

 

That's exactly the reason that the baseless accusations get made in the first place I suppose.

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