TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I think I've questioned Keegan's behaviour on here about this before and been shot down. You look at Benitez trying to change things from within and you have to ask why Keegan didn't do the same. Even something as simple as going public with his concerns could have put pressure on them to change. I tend to agree that he was looking for a way out. His reasons for leaving the first time round seem a little bizarre to me as well. Love him but I bet he's an arse of an employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 4171 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Interesting account. Certainly doesn't paint Keegan as favourably as we had assumed. If you believe that, then I have some magic beans you may like to buy? The tide is turning for these cunts in the media and they are full PR offensive in an attempt to muddy the waters. If Ashley didn't want to buy Newcastle and then had an opportunity to sell, why didn't he? Because it, like everything from them is bullshit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 26385 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Jimenez also said that he was only brought in to help Ashley sell the club. “Mike wanted me to sell the club on the basis of my relationships in the Middle East so I came in under the cover story of working in player recruitment,” Jimenez said. “If he had played his cards right Mike could have sold Newcastle to Abu Dhabi before they bought Manchester City.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: I think I've questioned Keegan's behaviour on here about this before and been shot down. You look at Benitez trying to change things from within and you have to ask why Keegan didn't do the same. Even something as simple as going public with his concerns could have put pressure on them to change. I tend to agree that he was looking for a way out. His reasons for leaving the first time round seem a little bizarre to me as well. Love him but I bet he's an arse of an employee. Keegan certainly doesn't seem to be the kind of person who can handle being lied to in the way that Benitez has though. Otherwise agree, I doubt it all went down entirely as either side is describing it. That said, I'd trust Keegan far, far more on the stuff that they both recount - I imagine the truthful bits about Jimenez's story are the bits on which Kevin hasn't expressed an opinion. Edited September 26, 2018 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 11896 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Let’s see. One side got a compensation of 2m, the other admitted to lying. It’s really tricky who to believe here... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I've always found it impossible to criticise Keegan.If he wasn't happy with anything he would react in a way which he thought was right.Haven't we all done that and continue to do so.My biggest toon hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) So Keegan turned down Benzema who apparently we could have bought without blowing our £25m budget despite the fact he went for well over £25m a year later. It’s amazing that this man isn’t still involved in football with scouting skills like that. Edited September 26, 2018 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Claims Ashley never wanted to buy us too which I can sympathise with because I nearly bought Arsenal by accident myself not long ago 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 We've all had those Sunday mornings where you wake up and realise that you bought a Premier League club during the previous night's drunken stupor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 15535 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 They glossed over Jimenez's Charlton dealings quite well. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/charlton-fc-duo-face-3m-payout-for-lies-to-lender-a3761681.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerosum 234 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, ewerk said: We've all had those Sunday mornings where you wake up and realise that you bought a Premier League club during the previous night's drunken stupor. unfortunately for one poor sod he got so drunk he bought sunderland.. imagine that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 618 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tom said: They glossed over Jimenez's Charlton dealings quite well. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/charlton-fc-duo-face-3m-payout-for-lies-to-lender-a3761681.html Ended up getting sued by both Ashley and Wise for various business deals, iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 15535 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Fair play to the drunk who was so wrecked he gave it away for nowt mind. Bet he was smiling the next day... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 43974 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 11 hours ago, Rayvin said: Interesting account. Certainly doesn't paint Keegan as favourably as we had assumed. You're aware this knacker is a proven liar? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22516 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 If the pressure building on Ashley goes in some way to driving the fucker out before the end f the season the (apparently unintentional?) tim8mg of the release of KK book and the widespread exposure given to the parcel of fuckin shit Ashley has turned the club into will certainly be seen as having contributed towards fattys exit. Cheers Kev Wont be at the sage gig but will be at this, Manu v United @1730 on the box afterwards https://www.waterstones.com/events/meet-kevin-keegan/southampton-west-quay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 hours ago, PaddockLad said: If the pressure building on Ashley goes in some way to driving the fucker out before the end f the season the (apparently unintentional?) tim8mg of the release of KK book and the widespread exposure given to the parcel of fuckin shit Ashley has turned the club into will certainly be seen as having contributed towards fattys exit. Cheers Kev Wont be at the sage gig but will be at this, Manu v United @1730 on the box afterwards https://www.waterstones.com/events/meet-kevin-keegan/southampton-west-quay A booking fee to buy a book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22516 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, essembeeofsunderland said: A booking fee to buy a book? I imagine the booking fee is to pay for he "event". If it was s tenner say its unlikely I'd be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42163 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Literally nothing about Jimenez’s version of events rings true. Keegan refusing to sign world class players whilst not even being in control of transfers is a fucking classic though. Also makes sense not to sell a club you never wanted to buy in the first place. Anyone else going to see KK on Tuesday night btw? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 He's cancelled his event in Belfast. I can understand why there wasn't a whole lot of interest at £60 pp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Howmanheyman said: You're aware this knacker is a proven liar? I just barely remember his name tbh, so no, not really - although given he's in Ashley's camp, it's a fair assumption. I just find the notion that Keegan was somehow perfect in every way to be naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22516 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, ewerk said: He's cancelled his event in Belfast. I can understand why there wasn't a whole lot of interest at £60 pp. Was dinner thrown in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Was it fuck. You got a signed copy of his book but by January anyone interested in going would already have a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42163 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 34 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I just barely remember his name tbh, so no, not really - although given he's in Ashley's camp, it's a fair assumption. I just find the notion that Keegan was somehow perfect in every way to be naive. I think you can dismiss Jimenez's version of events without thinking Keegan is perfect in every way. Who's arguing the latter is true anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22516 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, ewerk said: Was it fuck. You got a signed copy of his book but by January anyone interested in going would already have a copy. 46 minutes ago, ewerk said: Was it fuck. You got a signed copy of his book but by January anyone interested in going would already have a copy. that's abysmal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8367 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 41 minutes ago, Alex said: I think you can dismiss Jimenez's version of events without thinking Keegan is perfect in every way. Who's arguing the latter is true anyway? My point has been that Keegan probably wasn't perfect and people seem to be arguing with it. It's not even like any of this matters though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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