Rayvin 4964 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 N00b Labour Tom Watson can lead, convinced he's dabbing his way to the youth vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 I suggest the Liberal Socialist Democrats, or LSD for short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14053 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Perhaps the Tinkerbell Party could take flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Scots would be in. It would wipe out the SNP. In fact the more I think about it the more it looks like genius. Labour would have a cause instead of all this austerity lite nonsense and everyone else would shit their pants. Edited March 2, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Would it wipe out the SNP? I'm not sure it would, there's a lot of animosity towards Labour now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26335 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'd put rejoining the EU in the manifesto. The UKIP defectors aren't coming back to Labour anyway and this tactic will put back into the game for Labour all the Remainers of whatever allegiance. Around this Labour can campaign on a true internationalist and inclusive platform. It has the added benefit of re-connecting with the strong social contract of the EU, ECJ, ECHR. This posits the Tories and their loony wing as the enemy and puts to bed most of the infighting in Labour. Would need a new leader obviously. * You're assuming that the EU would want us back. The last thing they want is a country yoyoing in and out of the union depending on who is in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Also true, but it'd be quite the statement of confidence for the EU at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26335 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 They're pissed off as it is. The MSM has fooled you into thinking otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Don't I know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/03/labour-party-lost-members-mid-2016 This cache of good will might be on the wane. Edited March 3, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30404 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Student wankers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Heaven forbid young people become motivated to involve themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30404 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Don't have a problem with that. However, this is more a case of signing up, voting in a fucking car crash of a leader then leaving again after alienating the people who been activists for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Don't have a problem with that. However, this is more a case of signing up, voting in a fucking car crash of a leader then leaving again after alienating the people who been activists for years. I'd agree if that's all there was to it (I remain a member fwiw). But if they're leaving because of Brexit or because Corbyn isn't performing in the way they wanted, surely that's acceptable? Corbyn hasn't worked out at all, but it's not like any of them would know he wouldn't going into it. Even at the second time he was voted in, the PLP had done such a shit job at winning people over across the previous year that it was totally fair to put the party's woes down to that. And I still think that got us halfway to where we are. Call them naive if you like, but I don't think they did anything wrong by rallying behind someone who they genuinely thought could offer positive change. Edited March 3, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I would suggest that the big concern now is that they're entirely disillusioned with politics/democracy, having seen it for the absolute farce that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30404 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 With members like you, who needs Tory voters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 With generations like yours, who needs the Tories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30404 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Fwiw the original comment wasn't aimed at you because I didin't even know you were a member. Revealing that makes your position even more ridiculous however given you've already stated you wouldn't even vote for the party in an election :lol: Fucking priceless tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26335 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Too principled to vote for them, too principled to stop paying £48 a year to be a member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Are you sure I didn't say that I wouldn't vote for them once they'd ousted Corbyn? Because, as I've said before, my membership is contingent on them putting forward policies I agree with. As does my vote. If they replace him and I still agree with the policies, I'll vote for them. If not, both my vote and membership go. If I've ever said that I have no intention of voting for them while Corbyn was in charge, then I either misspoke or was high or something. I don't remember it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Too principled to vote for them, too principled to stop paying £48 a year to be a member. Well as I say, I can't remember saying it. It's certainly not a position I feel I hold presently so I can't imagine holding it previously. At best I've just said something ridiculous in the heat of the moment (but I'd be interested to see the post). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30404 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 In the politics thread you said you didn't even vote for Corbyn last time round :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26335 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 So now your principles are just out the window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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