Sima

Easy to say when it isn't happening though. come off it alex man, it's blatant that this was never going to happen overnight. Nobody has given me one good reason against the inevitable ban. Personal freedoms are all well and good Chez, but surely a responsible government must, at some point, say enough is enough. The people are smoking themselves into early graves, smoking is not in anyway shape or form a good thing. The taxation of it does provide a lot of cash, but they'll find something else to tax so I don't see that being a problem. The amount it costs, even before the social restrictions were put into practise, was so expensive it made NO sense to continue smoking. I'd understand if it had the same social connotations as drinking but it doesn't it makes you stink, it makes your respiratory system break down, it's a god awful thing and people are railing against it's demise because... they don't want to lose personal freedom? Do me a favour. People seem to be saying they want to make their own choice, but alex, you HAVE made your own choice, you don't smoke. Now if everybody else made the right decision as well we'd not need this discussion. Just so much ignorant bullshit I don't even know where to begin tbh

It'd be about a tenner a week. Nice of you to say so but some people can't afford to sacrifice around £40 a month just to seemingly breathe "cleaner" air. like Chez said if the pros outweighed the cons it would be banned instantly. They don't and it never will be. Sima, a tenner a week is less than the smokers I know spend on fags... Yeah, well they average around £40 a week, split between the supposed 80% non-smokers gives you an idea how I came to that figure.

It'd be about a tenner a week. Nice of you to say so but some people can't afford to sacrifice around £40 a month just to seemingly breathe "cleaner" air. like Chez said if the pros outweighed the cons it would be banned instantly. They don't and it never will be.

So, no under-25s go to Anfield or Old Trafford regularly?

Just go and watch There Will be Blood will you and stop harping on about sub-par dross. Because that's even worse?

Your disposable income would plummet. That enough of a negligible effect for you? What is responsible smoking btw? Surely that would entail people being considerate and smoking out of your vicinity? Therefore no danger?

Alcohol would never be legalised if it was discovered today. Not in a million fucking years. Yes, smokers complain about the amount of tax, because smokers are the only people that pay for the tax on cigarettes. Be a bit bizarre for non-smokers to complain about a tax they will never pay. Lets just ban smoking and then watch you bleat as tax is piled on everything else. Non-smokers should be grateful, they are more of a burden on the NHS as they live longer tbh and on the extra subsidy we pay. Fucking spongers.

Christ, here we go again. A million blokes eh? Well, Roy Castle's gone, only another 999,999 to go eh?

No creativity.

Wow stats can really prove anything if you try hard enough, can't they? Can't remember saying Greater Manchester btw, but feel free to change it to skew the results though.

Bringing other factors such as money as a diversion to the debate is stupid seen as we spent more than Man Utd in the 90s with nothing to show for it.

Ah, the helmet down the road with a head in, the whole police force must have been at that RTA as well as I've heard that story from at least 3 coppers.

Paul Jewell possibly the most boring manager this could have happened to Poor bloke.

Like his first half sitter today? There is no striker in the world who never misses an easy chance. The point is that he scored his next one. It's good to be so blazé when we won. It'd be a different story if that was a chance to win the game in the 90th minute tbh

I don't know what was more cringeworty. His lap of honour and giving his shirt to someone in the East Stand (I would have gave it back to him tbh) or his utterly spacker jump for joy, fists clenched leap at the final whistle. Fuck off Steven, we're not buying it.

NOTW?

With nearly 10% of all domestic trophies in English football history between Newcastle and Sunderland (no one counts the League Cup) from a population which comprises no more than 3% of the population, my conclusion is you're definitely the biggest cock I've ever seen on an internet message board. The fact you mention Middlesbrough in any bracket with Newcastle, geographically and historically suggests to me if everyone south of the tyne was like you, maybe Saddam should've tried his nerve gas on you and not the Kurds. What percentage of domestic trophies have went to Man Utd and Liverpool and what percentage of the UK is their population? Why not count the League Cup btw? Because it will make your figures look worse?

Like his first half sitter today?

He's gone the wrong way about it but he's right about Merseyside and Manchester being better "footballing hotbeds" (whatever the fuck that means). Us and both Sunderland and Boro are historically absolutely garbage and devoid of any sustained period of honours post-war (bar 3 FA cups) to even begin to justify the respect that we wrongly think we deserve. Won't stop cretins thinking we are the best fans EVA or thinking we should be challenging for the top four next season.

Kuyt so underrated.

Suprised no-one's picked up on this, fucking cringety cringe.

Doesn't know when to quit tbh

Plays like one as well tbh

The placing of an apostrophe makes a hell of a difference tbh

Fuck me.