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Amen. Absolutely love Larry David*, but can't stand Seinfeld, I gave it another go after watching Curb but still didn't like it, I've been told to try the later series but I don't know. Seinfeld seems to do the most obvious observational comedy in those little stand up segements, like, did you ever notice how rain is wet *canned laughter*. Actually, fuck that, that's funnier than anything he's ever said. *it was someone on here who convinced me to download it, so cheers, whoever that was

Should be renamed in honour of our messiah :HTT

Mocking He-Man now? Fuck's sake. Watching the end of series 1 of Green Wing at the moment, love it, hope HF is wrong about series 2. I know Black Books is over, but I go back to it regularly, lovely stuff.

It's like a laptop, only bigger. The only thing dark about that show is the lighting, I thought it was funny for the first half season, don't know why I'm watching it now, bit like Lost. I agree she'd get a large portion, I'm a bit concerned about how readily you know her name? Although I guess you need something to shout when you're shaking white hot coconuts from the veiny love tree.

A shot from inside Ulrika Johnson's fanny?? 111597[/snapback] Now that would be extreme, with scuba gear on.

I hope you're not pointing that in my direction.

You're the one acting the cyber-warrior, like.

BitTorrent, get with the 21st century. I still get Desperate Housewives because the girlfriend likes it but do you not find the novelty's long worn off? Or maybe it's just material for the wank bank.

Now that's bad taste, I was losing faith in this thread.

The example I gave offered a real 100% difference in the statistics, a pretty perfect example of an un-semantical argument; I'm assuming you're using words you don't understand. Whenever someone tries to nicely explain where you're making an error, you don't listen. I'm just suggesting you look at your figures if you're not trying to mislead all the people who have faith in you.

I really hope you're joking.

It looks like it's just an internet copy+paste job. I'd be slightly concerned about the focus: 2 pages on Newcastle United; 4 on the railway and 20 on golf-courses.

I'm not quite sure what you mean, to put it at its simplest: If 2,000 users vote on a poll and then the same 2,000 users sign a petition, that doesn't equal 4,000 people. 2,000 people voted for Hitzfeld in an internet poll. You claim a further 2,000 signed an online petition, therefore you're adding the 2 together and coming up with a figure of 4,000. It would be normal to assume a very similar group (Newcastle fans/Hitzfeld fans/Internet Users/etc.), of which there are a relatively small number, using 2 approval mechanisms being distributed largely in the same space as overlapping, unless you had specific data available to indicate otherwise. Then expand that example out to include the support emails you have received and any other means of calculating figures you are using.

By that logic is Roth saying all Spanish born Croats (or whatever she was) are mercenary psychopaths? I can think of four Americans in the film, I thought the teens were a pretty average threesome: sensible; somewhat obnoxious; and very obnoxious, not particular to the US. There was only one psychotic American in the film, compared to many European ones and at least one film director. My memory of that scene is of a night time cobbled street, from them days with shouts, stuff raining down and smashing glass. Really reminded me of Jewish furniture and possibly Jews being thrown out of similar windows in, I think, The Pianist. I didn't really see the little boys the same way, they were almost comic relief. I'm going to have to have another watch of it, it is a couple of weeks since I watched it, I think, and my memory's already pretty hazy of it.

That took me by surprise until I read the last bit. My gay eyes loved it btw, best stick one of these under your avatar:

I once expected not to be lied to, I was dissapointed. Now I am forever cursed to take my revenge on undeserving men of honour and integrity like HTT.

Interesting read. How have the voters on this poll been verified as being different the the petition signers and the emailers? The norm would be to assume a severe overlap, surely? The figure of 10,000 (which is now anywhere up the 15,000 according to the 'interview' published a couple of days later) is still well short of the majority of supporters repeatedly claimed by the campaign.

I thought they tried to avoid the comparison by making the leads rather stupid. The Jews were going along minding their own business when they got virtually wiped out of Europe. These Americans came to Europe looking for girls they can't get at home, causing trouble in clubs, bitching that the TV doesn't have subtitles. They're jack-asses who think the world should cater to them rather than attempting to fit in with the world. I think Eli Roth might be making a point that Americans are pariahs outside of their own country, but was careful to show the behaviour that makes it so. 111249[/snapback] I didn't think that the contrast was there to show that that one led to the other, I thought he was saying 'Hey, we understand that Americans can be idiots, too" and that maybe he understands where the dislike(hatred?) comes from. Do you think they behaved like that because they were young men, or because they were Americans? The American client at the end was an open admission of what's wrong with some Americans, but I thought the boys were typical of Western culture, and humanity, not the just the US. There were too many pointers to anti-semitism for me to dismiss, maybe on their own, but not all together. The scene where they're being abused and shit thrown down on them on the Amsterdam street was hugely evocative for me, and to a lesser extent did the torture chambers remind you of anything? It's littered with other suggestions, Anne Frank Huis is a popular attraction, but seems a little out of character for their holiday. The problem with racial hatred and xenophobia is that the accusations are often based on half truths that are quite difficult to refute. But saying that all Americans are like that, and have ultimately brought it on themselves should be no different than saying similar things about the holocaust, but it's acceptable to mock Americans now, it reminds me of Orwell's essay on the treatment of Jews in the UK after WWII, accepted. I don't think it's an accident that it can be argued either way, or am I reading too much into it?

I don't understand how the nudity can be seen as gratuitous. The start was very typical lads weekend in Amsterdam, 2 times during the film it could be said to be over the top, and both times there was a very good reason for that. In fact, it could be labelled a twisted morality tale; very Old Testament, maybe even an eye for an eye? I think it's unfair to lump it in with something like Nightmare on Elm Street, the suspense was built quite well, it was disturbingly close to something that might actually happen. And torture and gore is unfortunately more of a horrific reality than say Ringu, it scared the shit out of me, but if you step back for a second, it can't ever happen, so the spell is broken. It's why I'm such a lover of horror movies, it's such a difficult genre; if that spell is broken for one second, for any reason, they've probably lost you for the whole movie. So, for me, one of the best ever made. HF - Glad you liked it, I thought it had a lot of depth for a horror movie, anyone think there was a comparison made to antisemitism and the treatment of the Americans?

I haven't seen the remake, but I agree on Connelly; then again good acting has feck all to do with it if the director isn't pulling the strings right! I did see the remake of 'The Ring', I thought it was a very competent remake but was left wondering what the point was, it was virtually identical, not as scary but a bit more graphic. I like to have a little smoke before a horror movie, if kitchen appliances are terrifying before you sit down to watch you'll probably have a more satisfying experience. Will have a look for Neighbour 13 today, cheers.

The original is possibly the best horror movie I've ever seen, recommended.

The only thing I felt let down by was when she could have finished the job, I don't care what kind of state I could be in, I would not have missed that opportunity.

Similar theme, nice backpacking holiday goes a little awry in Eastern Europe. My holiday options are getting more and more limited, got to stop watching these movies. Apparently Wolf Creek is loosely based on the Joanna Leese story, very fucking loosely, obviously.

Alf Stewart's completely lost it tbh. I enjoyed it, thought Hostel was way better though.

Don't feel too bad mate, Dotbum put £100 on Hitzfeld on the strength of it. 109088[/snapback] PeasePud, can you please use your many hours of free time to start a concerted Hitzfeld campaign, so I can sell this bet back at shorter odds?