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Not for the first time I'm going to have to disagree. A couple of my mates actually turned it off after the bit where they attended the rally and 12 year old was allowed to travel back in the front seat of the car, wouldn't happen tbh and it went down hill from then onwards. Your little flag there suggests you just didn't like the portrayal of your Nazi buddies as lonely, emotionally stunted incompetents.

La Haine is fucking class. It's possibly even better than City Of God tbh and that's some praise! Agreed, excellent. What was the purpose of the cow?

you do have some stories Only when he's read the reader's letters section of his dad's 1970s playboy magazines. BJ's hadn't been invented in the 70's had they? didn't you invent them? Unfortunately not, but imagine having the accolade of inventing the blow job! Linda Lovelace, 1972, wasn't it?

I may be naive, but ATM'd? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A.T.M. Edit: WTF, the link is going to the wrong page. Add a dot to the end.

On the metro to the match my cousin was telling me about a dirty bitch who he ATM'd last Friday. The pensioner sat next to us was pissing himself. EDIT: With laughter.

It does a very good job of celebrating the original skinhead culture (suggesting they started by embracing immigrants to their working class bosom and integrating their music, fashion and leisure pursuits) while also damning the fringe characters who exploited the image for far uglier purposes.

Not for the first time I'm going to have to disagree.

Just not being willfully obtuse. I'll have to nip that in the bud if I'm to fit in I suppose.

More people want him now than wanted him then. You can change your mind about what you said 2 days ago though, right? I think anyone with the power of thought knows more people wanted Allardyce than just the spakey Jedi and that Allardyce currently looks a better option than Roeder, I was exagerrating for the sake of a point. People are free to change there mind as they see fit, all I've done is recognise I was being a tad hyperbolic.

More people want him now than wanted him then.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/6641411.stm He's on his way.

What word starting with N and ending with R would you not want to call a black person? Neighbour. Worlds most offensive jokes. Channel 4 Now.

At the moment I like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZUD_2zywq4 and

I know a lad who was in that business.

"As soon MyFootballClub has received membership fees from 50,000, the process of identifying the best club to purchase on behalf of its members will begin." Current number 1 - Leeds I'll have a night on the piss instead ta.

which one?

Is agreeing with .COM, the Chronicle, a substantial number of people on here and N-O and everyone I know what's deemed controversial these days?

Gemmill When we appointed Roeder I posted in various places that it felt like an opportunity missed to really get someone decent in. At least I had the sense to realise a long time ago that he needed to go - until a week or so ago you wanted him here next season. Wasnt HF's original point that appointing Allardyce will be repeating the same mistake?? Missed opp to get someone decent? A meringue? Maybe, but then he made the mistake of saying that Allardyce was no better a manager than Roeder, which is quite clearly bollocks. Yep. I took that back. Not many people could be as bad as Roeder, but then that's why we accepted him in the first place ("at least it's not Souness"). How long are we going to have to be grateful for mini mercys?

Gemmill When we appointed Roeder I posted in various places that it felt like an opportunity missed to really get someone decent in. At least I had the sense to realise a long time ago that he needed to go - until a week or so ago you wanted him here next season. Wasnt HF's original point that appointing Allardyce will be repeating the same mistake?? Missed opp to get someone decent? A meringue?

Sorry, but that's just bollocks. I've had a look at a lot of older threads yesterday and there were many who wanted him full time last time (ahead of Roeder) - myself included. +1 HF- Back to the film books for you, I'm afraid. And there's more, (with some all for it admittedly, not as many as now though) http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?...ic=1677&hl= I understand times/opinions change, but if Shepherd brings in "Big Sam" he's just perpetuating the revolving door situation that keeps attention away from his failings. As fans we're begging for it by blaming Roeder over Shepherd. I see little benefit from going down this path again. -5

Gemmill

Sorry, but that's just bollocks. I've had a look at a lot of older threads yesterday and there were many who wanted him full time last time (ahead of Roeder) - myself included. I've looked too. Luckyluke stood out as his biggest fan, sorry if you were too. But I've linked to the comments from several people who want him now, but didn't then. Who said all the same things about Roeder as people are saying about BIG Sam now. It's fine that people want a different manager for the different situation we're in (though I think we're very similarly positioned, certainly in terms of league placing and perhaps better off having the summer as we do for someone new to come in and sort things out) but I don't like Shepherd being able to say he gave the fans what they want...again, when most fans want his head on a stick. Do we as fans want Allardyce because he's the best man for the job or because Shepherd could do a lot worse and has never displayed an ability to do any better? Accepeting that's the case is letting Shepherd off the hook IMO. Look at the Sven/Houllier/Allardyce poll.

Apart from the stuff I've been saying for 4 days about Bolton having a worse defence than us, how if they lost their main striker for the season they'd have scored less goals than us (hypothetical as it is you can't say Owen wouldn't have made a difference this year), how in 7 years he's managed to finish just one position higher than Roeder did last year but twice finished lower than Roeder did this year. Ok then. I reckon Bolton's defence is still better than ours this season. I bet it has cost them less games despite them conceding more in the league. Could you see them losing 5-0 at home to Birmingham for example? The striker thing is hypothetical (as you say) but it's a fair point. However, the other comparisons are utterly ridiculous. You point to one part of a season under Roeder (i.e. last year) and compare that against what Allardyce has done. What about Roeder's record at other clubs? And here this season - does that not count? Newcastle is probably the best managerial job Roeder has done in terms of assessing it did overall and in his one full season (almost) we're on course for what is statistically our worst in the Premiership. Says it all, he's a shit manager who's done a poor job everywhere he's been. More or less the opposite of what Allardyce has done. Points taken. Maybe I am pushing things with respect to Allardyce being as bad as Roeder, but I think too many people are looking forward to the announcement of "Not Roeder", like people were happy with "Not Souness" at the time. The gleeeful acceptance of Allardyce is shocking when no-one (apart from Luckyluke) wanted him before and Shepherd should be lambasted for lowering expectations to such a degree. With respect to your bet, there's no need, I'm sure there poor defending cost them less games, it patently has…but that’s not because their defence is better, but because they’ve been able to score more goals. We’ve let in fewer goals so our defence has performed better than theirs; they’ve scored more goals so their attack has performed better than our (emaciated) forward line.