wolfy

Ermmm, let me see. Maybe it's because I love the club and wanted the club to survive, so watching that little bastard trying to take it for money it didn't have when he could have just walked away pissed me right off. Constructive dismissal in court or not...the FACT is, he WALKED out on the club, he wasn't sacked directly and was even asked back. He spat out his dummy like he always has done and I thank fuck that we got rid of him when we did.

He couldn't.

Because it's a message board.

Because he was employed by the club. He's an EMPLOYEE who was paid to manage the team.Keegan relied on MESSIAH status. Ok so he was told to sign a few players based on whatever and he didn't fancy them. Equally , he wanted to fill the team with trophy like past their sell by date signings. Imagine the state of the club if he'd have done that. Remember, to the fans, he was an icon.....to mercenaries, he's just the manager of their meal ticket into retirement for cameo roles and sickness benefits, which is what would have happened as it has in the past. He lost my respect by trying to sue the club...not Ashley.....THE CLUB for something like 20 million give or take. He won his case for constructive dismissal which is fair enough but he didn't win anything more than Ashley would have paid him anyway and the court ruled he could have his wages paid up and nothing more...so in effect, the civil court ruled in both their favours. To me, Keegan is a bitter little shit.

And as I said in my last post, I don't give a fuck what you think.

I have no respect for Keegan after what he done in taking the club to court. Yes he did spit his dummy out regardless of constructive dismissal in a CIVIL court ruled in his favour. Barry Moat had nothing that could have took this club forward...NOTHING, except cap in hand borrowing from banks which he would have had no chance of doing because Shepherd had already put a massive hole in the ship regarding bank borrowing. This club was ruled by Geordies ruling with their hearts and not their heads. They were thinking like supporters and wanting what supporters wanted, so they begged and borrowed to make it happen. That's why this club was in meltdown. We have an owner that rules with his head now and it's just what this club needed. As for you not trusting me , it doesn't make any odds, as I support Newcastle for ME, not you, or anyone else and I have done all my life. What my thoughts are, are my true thoughts whether anyone likes it or not.

The problem you have is plain and simple. You simply don't like the man himself. Now there can only be 3 reasons for this. 1. You idolised Keegan and your hatred has stemmed from Keegan walking out because Ashley didn't give him the power he thought he was getting. 2. He won't pay over the odds for players that are simply not worth it. 3. You went with the flow of hate and have slated him that much, you feel you can never back down from that stance, so you will continue hating him no matter what. If I was a betting man, I'd say it was a mixture of all 3 but I think the underlying problem will probably stem from Keegan spitting out his dummy. Anyway: The real truth is.... Mike Ashley has done what no other owner has dared to do. He's actually decided to run the club as a sustainable model and concentrating on first things first and is doing so because he made naive mistakes early on in his ownership. He runs this club like he runs his businesses. He buys for sensible prices and slowly builds up the quality of those businesses, which attracts the customer base to make the businesses even bigger. He is a rich man because he's not afraid to make mistakes and take a risk, yet if his risk doesn't pay off first time, he will calculate his next risk, until he gets it right. He gets it right because he doesn't give up and is not afraid to piss people off along the way. That's what he's done at Newcastle. He's took risks and seen the backlash he got when it didn't work. He could have cut and run, which he nearly did if a buyer had come in with a genuine effort to aid the club, yet all we got was Barry Moat who wanted it on the never never. Imagine where we would be now if good old Geordie (do it from the heart) businessman Moat had got hold of us. Ashley decided to stick with us and go to plan B and we are seeing the fruits of that plan starting to ripen. Just cast your mind back a few years and remember the shit this club was in and the emergence of the Billionaire that was to take us over. We were all jumping about and boasting to anyone who would listen that, " this is it" mega bucks players...top class expensive players adorning the pitch. Most would have kissed Ashley boots. Sam Allardyce as we know, had the team playing dire boring football, yet he was trying to build the team in his own way for consolidation firstly and was putting his plan together...Don't get me wrong here....I didn't like his brand of football and neither did 99% of the fans. Ashley got rid of Allardyce because he could sense the discontent with the fans and him being naive at the time, he sacked Allardyce for no real reason, other than he knew the fans weren't happy. When Allardyce left....very few fans gave a shit about how he left and he was basically forgotten as soon as Keegan walked through the door. Sam who? No Sam here mate, you must have the wrong club. Keegan spits his dummy out and WW3 breaks out, all because , too many fans were still hanging onto his coat tails from the first time round. You see...Ashley can sack Allardyce and the reason is , " just because I can"....Keegan walks out over one or two players being signed and Ashley is an evil fat bastard Cockney shit house and all the rest of the bile. Throughout all the bile and hypocritical bitterness and what not, Ashley has managed to face a relegation through his own naiveness and ill thought out appointments, to turn it all around and from that point on, using his head, whilst also appointing the people he knows that can all play their part in running a successful football club, which in terms of stable finances, we are over the first hurdle towards success. The second hurdle is the influx of players that are fair priced yet not short on quality. The third hurdle is gaining the required sponsors, which he has managed to do, so that we can play in the transfer market from funds that the CLUB generates and not his back pocket. The final hurdle is for us to gain the required team/squad size and quality to give the top teams a real run for their money but he will do it based on what the club generates, whether that's through advertising, sponsors, gate money and transfer fees. Wanting an owner out who can do what he's done for this club is not only silly, it's fucking bordering on insane. Just remember.. if we lose Ashley, you better hope the new owners have a similar plan because right now, we have everything in place from bootom to top to propel this club forward. You want Ashley out...well you better hope that the next owners can give out blank cheques like Man City because because nobody will be able to run it effectively like Ashley is doing. Your sheikh's will provide your superstars on sick wages...no problem and if it happens, just remember...the academies will look good and smart but will produce nothing because the team will be saturated with tailor made expensive superstars, rendering the up and coming kids pointless and forcing them out. Choose what you want... Do you want it all now, or do you want to wait and have the satisfied mind that the club built the success based on hard work and shrewd buying .

Once he get's his end away in a plane, he can become one of the Nile high club.

He's a naive kid but already they are making a film about his life up to now. It's called the Green Nile.

Watch out for the ticket sprouts as well.

Careful when going to Belgium without a ticket. The police just sprout up from nowhere and arrest you.

I still don't accept it was a red card...BUT...it's done now and we have to go along with it. After all, there will be games this season where similar will happen against one of our players and we will all be screaming blue murder at the ref to send off the player. It's amazing what adrenalin and passion can do to a football fan isn't it.

Warren Barton was and still is very loyal to Newcastle. He came in from Wimbledon as part of Keegan's team build and practically walked to the club to make sure he signed. He was that excited to sign that when Keegan asked him what wage he required, Barton said' I'll leave that up to you.' As Barton himself said, ' I knew Keegan would get me a fair wage, so I wasn't bothered..I just wanted to be a part of this club.' He still classes us as his club to this day.

Obviously, Peter Beardsley has been a very loyal servant of this club and it never seemed to be down to money with him.

Well, this is open to debate and it could be a bit of both maybe. The fact is though, if the club wanted to move them on against their will, they could have , yet the club have stood by them for maybe seeing enough in them as very good back up, plus the fact that they are both actually loyal and are rewarded for that. Maybe.

Agreed.

Alan Shearer has to be up there for loyalty. Even though he left as a youngster to go to Southampton and then to Blackburn. He came back to Newcastle and gave his all for the cause. Naturally he's from Newcastle but it doesn't always guarantee loyalty as Andy Carroll has proved. What I liked about the loyalty Shearer showed was his attitude to every game for us which was top class and his desire to bust a gut to get us a trophy, which unfortunately passed him by, which I'm gutted for him but not as much as he will be gutted for himself and the club. I also admire him because he stayed loyal to the end when he had many chances to cut and run and also there were clubs offering more money than we were paying to get his services. He had the chance of Man Utd and guaranteed trophies, yet he chose to give his all to the Newcastle cause. Ok I've started. Who do you think has proved loyalty and what makes them stand out specifically in your opinion?

Who is Alex?

Not really.The topic asks about financially and considering Owen set us back an arm and a leg over his injury prone stay and the fact he also didn't give a fuck about the club, I put him up there as one of our worst financial signings. Basically just because his fee plus wages alone could bankrupt a smaller club and helped flush us down the toilet into the championship.

I think the side might be something like this. ...................................Harper..................................... Simpson...........Taylor.............Willo...............Anita Obertan............Tiote.............Perch/Bigirimana.............Ferguson ......................Cisse...................Shola

1. What have you made of your start to the season so far? A. So so. I'm not disappointed as we have had injuries to deal with. 2. What are your opinions our our start to the season so far? A. Shocked to be honest as I had you lot down for relegation.....just kidding. I am not surprised at where you are to be honest as some teams come out of the blocks earlier than others. 3. We've recently seen Alan Pardew given a new eight year contract, what are your reactions to this? A. Absolutely over the moon. I think Pardew can take this club to the next level, so he needs time and the security to be able to do that. I think the contract shows the faith that the club have in him to propel us even further forward. 4. Mike Ashley always seemed an unpopular figure around your parts, what are your opinions on him? A. One of the best owners a club could have to be honest. He's brought the fickle fans back down to Earth and is showing how a football club should be run.......He's no mug and takes no shit from no one and along with Llambias, plus the management team they have put together and the way they have dragged this club screaming into reality, we can only benefit from it.In time I can see us flirting with the top sides for a stab at the title in maybe 3 /4 or 5 years. 5. What are your opinions on WBA as a football club alongside its supporters? A. A decent club with decent supporters. 6. Which players in your side should we look out for, and which players in our side do you fear? A.All of them.......................I don't fear anyone in your side. 7. What are you expecting for the remainder of the season? A. I never expect anything but I hope that we can finish strongly and nick a champions league place. 8. What are you expecting from WBA for the remainder of the season? Do we have a chance of Europe? A. If you can steer clear of major injuries and suspensions, you have a very good chance. 9. What side is Alan Pardew most likely to put out? A. Not too sure if he will opt for Cisse instead of Shola and Anita should probably replace Tiote. The rest should be the same as against Sunderland, injuries permitting of course. 10. And finally, score predictions. A. Biggest win of the season for us, I'll go for 6-1

That's why I said certain managers.

I think Pardew is simply playing it sensible about Tiote's red card in agreeing with it. By simply agreeing with it, it doesn't bring any focus onto the club by the FA and any ref's in future games. I think ref's have a , ' I'll teach you' routine for certain managers that speak out against their decisions.

Most tackles are potential leg breakers if mistimed and hard enough. The game of football has gone soft. It's turning into a right fannies game.

This is the image I have of you Fishy.