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https://talksport.com/football/3416347/yoane-wissa-brentford-training-newcastle-transfer/?utm_campaign=native_share&utm_source=sharebar_native&utm_medium=sharebar_native Interesting enough read from the reporter who originally broke the news that Brentford are playing hardball today. I know it's talksport, but he was spot on with what he reported it seems. Going by the article Brentford have broken a lot of promises to Wissa, so I wouldn't criticise him as much as I would others for downing tools. It also mentions in the article that despite Brentford saying he's not for sale, they're actively looking for his replacement.
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It seems like the original reporting that they wanted 45-50m was correct, as opposed to a bid north of 30m being the price. Maybe Wissa leaked the gentleman's agreement price to the media. That's clearly taking the piss for someone who's basically 29 😉 Fucking hell, I'm trying to laugh here and not go the other way, but I suppose the one good thing is that Wissa actually seems like he wants to join the club. As I said before compromises are usually found in these situations where players want to leave, so hopefully it can be resolved. I really don't want us to get to the part of the list where we're bidding for Strand Larson, who I've seen linked. Decent player, but not Champions League quality. Or heaven forbid DCL.
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😂 In fairness Plettenberg is a bit hit and miss as well, although I think he attributed the reporting to someone else at the bottom of the tweet. I think this and their manager saying he'll be back in training next week are clearly negotiating tactics. Brentford know that we want to get deals done as quickly as possible before the likelihood of selling Isak for an astronomical fee. It seems like Wissa wants the move, and as we're seeing with Isak, and many players before him, if a player is set on leaving they usually do. I just hope we aren't playing the very unsuccessful game of chicken we've seemed to be playing for players like Trafford with Brentford. Although if the offer is around 35m that seems fair, especially if Wissa had a gentleman's agreement for 26m.
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Seems like Leipzig are preparing for Sesko leaving.
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Here's the article. https://x.com/goldbossed/status/1948626444294242816
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Having read a bit more about it in Hope's latest article it does seem as if the Isak situation was badly mismanaged by Mitchell and Eales after Mandy and Mehrdad left the club. Now even if his contract had of been enhanced it's still possible he would have wanted to leave, but the situation certainly didn't help. It is what it is unfortunately. Isak's ambitions, justified ambitions given his talent, outgrew our current abilities to satisfy them. The biggest bone I have to pick with him is the timing. Maybe he was only going to ask to leave once he was aware of solid interest, but you'd assume Liverpool have been in his ear long before their so called informal approach. Although I suppose just because we only became aware of his desire to leave the club recently, it doesn't follow that the club haven't been aware of it for a long time. It then comes down to who was taking the decision to try and hold onto a player who you know wants to leave. You have to hand it to the dippers. They really have fucked us sideways by buying Ekitike. He was clearly our successor to Isak, and with him in the building we could have negotiated from a position of great strength to either keep Isak for one more season, or selling for the top end of our valuation. As it is I can't see us getting more than 120 guaranteed with some add ons to perhaps take it north of 130m.
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Romano has said that Sesko has a gentlemens agreement with Liepzig that means he can get his transfer fee lowered for a club thst he likes and thinks is a good project. Seems kind of weird because presumably top players always go to clubs they like the look of. In any case the fee would be, according to Romano, between 60 and 70m, with add ons of around 5m. Seems like he's pulled that out of his ass, but we'll see I suppose when or if Sesko moves.
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This NYT analysis of Sesko makes it seem like Wissa would be the perfect partner for him. Depending on how we'd line up, in the admittedly entirely theoretical team given not even Wissa is confirmed. Although obviously both Gordon, and especially Elanga, are rapid as well.
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Sesko looks a player from what I've seen of him. He's ridiculously quick, strong, and has a great shot on him. Whether he'd be able to step up from the German league to the Prem is the question, but Howe has proven he can get a tune out of almost any player. The fact is though that big teams are limited when it comes to the number of top strikers available at present. We might just have to take a chance on someone like Sesko. We were supposedly interested in him a few years back, so it seems Howe has had his eye on him for a while at least, so we're not just panicking if we are trying to sign him.
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It's going to be very anticlimactic if this gets done and Isak is gone, or as good as gone in his head.
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Barca would need to pull another "lever" to even hope to afford Isak, and I think they're down to selling their first born children at this point. As for Bayern I can't see them going for Kane's replacement this year. He still has two years on his contract.
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In an ideal world of course, but Howe et al are going to have to weigh up the pros and cons of keeping a player who is seemingly unhappy. Whether we like it or not if it's known that a player is unhappy and wants to leave it weakens the hand of the seller. We will hopefully be a beneficiary of that with Wissa. Again the ideal scenario is that we sell to a team outside the Prem, but that doesn't seem all that likely and Isak may have his heart set on Liverpool and Liverpool only, although surely he wouldn't turn his nose up at ridiculous wages at the current Champions League champions PSG. The best possible outcome given the circumstances, because I don't think Howe is going to be able to convince Isak to stay for any longer than until next summer, is for us to sell Isak to PSG, I keep saying PSG because out of the elite clubs with money they have the most need of a first choice 9 given Dembele is more a wide forward playing down the centre, and get Kolo Muani off them for a good price, or maybe a loan to buy option.
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Or that they didn't want to pay 150m for one player, so decided to buy our replacement and unsettle their first choice to such an extent that we might be forced into accepting a lower offer. Fucking evil like, but well played by them if that's the case.
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I pray we can make a deal with a team like PSG etc, if only so the bin dippers don't eeeehhhhhyyy themselves into oblivion and cause collateral damage.
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He can fuck off then. Sulking because he didn't get his move to Liverpool is riduculous. Maybe there's things we don't know in regard to promises made to him about improved wages etc, but it would appear that those people saying he wasn't the type to down tools were talking shite.
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In fairness the supposed injury would have happened after Saturday, around the start of the following week. At the time Liam Kennedy reported that he had felt some discomfort, had a precautionary scan which came back clear, but did specialised training on his own as a precaution. None of the aforementioned would explain why he isn't on the plane to Singapore, unless the scan missed something and he's still feeling pain, but that seems pretty unlikely.
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It was described as a minor thigh strain, so it doesn't really make sense that he'd be left at home for something like that. I was hoping all this talk about Isak was gossip engineered to try and unsettle him, but there's been a lot of smoke and it appears there is some validity to the talk of him being unhappy.
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Isak isn't on the plane to Singapore. It's looking a lot like Isak, at the very least, has thrown a strop. It kind of beggars belief that Liverpool would be able to afford to buy Isak given their spending so far, but I don't see who else we'd be selling him to. If we sell to Liverpool after their already ridiculous window, then that's just another PSR shaped kick in the bollocks. It wouldn't surprise me if Liverpool told him to kick off to get the transfer fee down.
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Big Keith seems pretty confident, and neither he or Hope have mentioned the possibility of a hijack from Spuds. My fingers are burnt off me at this stage, so I'll contain my excitement for now. I will say that apart from his age he's the perfect profile, can play centrally and out wide etc. but if he was 23 we wouldn't be able to afford him.
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He has 31 goals and 9 assists in the last two PL seasons. And in fairness he was moved about, played out wide and through the middle in a pretty average Brentford side. Albeit a Brentford side with Mbuemo in it. Going by current fees if we could get him for around the 30m mark it would be decent business.
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Surely the bare minimum in negotiations would be saying, So Yoane, you're not set on staying in London with your old boss are you? Because we'll look right cunts if we get outbid again.
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If he turns out to be another Nunez it would be worth ten protracted transfer windows, but no cunt has less football IQ, and IQ in general, than Nunez unfortunately.
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Was just about to post it 😂 They've been absolutely rinsed on that mind. People like to talk about how much value you can find in foreign leagues, but they're very quickly catching up, and just taking the piss really given how much money is in the prem.
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I've only seen that Sky Germany guy say that they've submitted a second bid, and he got a few things wrong about our attempt to sign him, including the notion that we'd put a second bid over our initial 70m one. Seems like he's the local gimp boy that the German clubs, and or agents, use to put out propaganda.
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Howe's comments did seem to raise more questions than answers. I really don't see why Isak couldn't have took a place in the stands with Big Joe if he's fit enough to train, but not quite fit enough to play. Sending him home only adds to the speculation after the club made it clear he wasn't for sale. If he gets onto the plane to Singapore we can probably rest easy.