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Long limbed though. Arms like a chimpanzee iirc. Throwing her own shit about?

Gemmill rating the blart there I see.

Does she have some kind of speech impediment? Or just a potato fetish? I'm typing with one hand because the other is cradling the last bit of scran as if it was the infant son of God. GF has swiped the Communion wafers. He's finally hit rock bottom.

"Nice sandwich!" Taking her life in her hands tbh.

To be fair though, it's not quite in the same league as when you claimed you were privvy to secret info by knowing someone in MI6 (or similar) No. I knew someone who's mum was in Mi6 about 15 years ago. Judy Dench? Tbh I'm surprised Alexis remembers stuff like this. Alex's memory is immense dispite his lifestyle. God knows how he does it. Does buggery affect the memory like? Meenzer must be like a goldfish then.

You assumed I'd assumed that. I thought it was PART of your argument. Re: the dismissing of Di Stefano's medal winning achievements, was I really remiss in thinking "but there wasn't a lot of opposition to Real's dominance in the 50s" was doing that? The second part of the sentence was redundant if you accept the first part. Sima basically just unable to steer a consistent course.

That last comment was just too daft to get started on tbf. The thing is it's ultimately about opinion so you can't ever prove who's right or wrong. Residually all you're ever left with in these sort of 'debates' is the chance to examine the arguments put forward-as I say, neither proves the case one way or the other but yours has been demonstrated to be logically inconsistent. To be fair though that kind of stuff is my bread and butter.

Do you think England would beat Man Utd? Oh and for someone that is basing their argument purely on opinion, waving the not talking sense part Playtime Fontayne! What's next? Conkers or marbles?

Not doubting Di Stefano's talent at all, but there wasn't a lot of opposition to Real's dominance in the 50s. Do medals not count then? Last comment was more in reference to the photo, clue is in the first part? Cake and eat it tbf.

He played for England which is a higher level than Man U. The final point you made was defective and you're simply chosing to ignore it. Champions League is of a far higher standard than the World Cup tbh and Man Utd are a far better team than England. Any professional will tell you that the World Cup is the absolute highest level and that the majority of international football is a higher level than the majority of 'domestic' european football played. Youre talking bollocks now with all due respect. I'm not saying either argument has proved the case, but you're no longer making sense in your argument.

You don't accept my point about goal ratios (fair enough), I can't figure out your point about medals (mine is that theyre largely meaningless-How many European Cups has Seedorf won/how many World Cups did George Best have a chance at winning) and beyond that you'll concede that neither of us have submitted a detailed treaties on the art or science of goalscoring. Your initial post was simply that Muller should be in ahead of Shearer. It's about opinions basically. For what it's worth my view is based on their technical abilities coupled with their ability to put the ball in the back of the net. If all other conditions were equal I would say you would be extremely hard placed to distinguish between them. With the difference that many goals of Müller were crucial. I don't think anyone here in Germany could think of the successes of the German and Bayern teams in the 70s without the deciding goals from Müller, especially in tense finals and crucial matches. I think that is what Shearer lacks, important matches where he was the deciding factor. Again I think that goes back to being in those situations to begin with. Personally I think if you were choosing any basis to criticise the Shearer case (ie not being a 'matchwinner'), then that's probably the weakest example to use.

He played for England which is a higher level than Man U. The final point you made was defective and you're simply chosing to ignore it.

Beyond their jurisdiction. Ie without legal authority and hence unlawful.

You don't accept my point about goal ratios (fair enough), I can't figure out your point about medals (mine is that theyre largely meaningless-How many European Cups has Seedorf won/how many World Cups did George Best have a chance at winning) and beyond that you'll concede that neither of us have submitted a detailed treaties on the art or science of goalscoring. Your initial post was simply that Muller should be in ahead of Shearer. It's about opinions basically. For what it's worth my view is based on their technical abilities coupled with their ability to put the ball in the back of the net. If all other conditions were equal I would say you would be extremely hard placed to distinguish between them. That's open to debate as judging ability is down to opinion. Goal record is fact. You're only saying medals are meaningless because it doesn't back up your Shearer argument tbh. The sheer notion that medals are meaningless is bollocks unless you're Alan Shearer.. Meaningless is too strong a word perhaps....but to prove just how much you've over egged the pudding with your parting comment, I only have to use the analogy of Shearer going to Man U instead of us. He'd have had half a dozen league medeals and a European Cup. Exactly the same player.

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I reckon Rob tipped up at the Tribunal Centre waving an A4 plastic wallet about and they gave him a decision (completely ultra vires) just to get him off the premises.

You don't accept my point about goal ratios (fair enough), I can't figure out your point about medals (mine is that theyre largely meaningless-How many European Cups has Seedorf won/how many World Cups did George Best have a chance at winning) and beyond that you'll concede that neither of us have submitted a detailed treaties on the art or science of goalscoring. Your initial post was simply that Muller should be in ahead of Shearer. It's about opinions basically. For what it's worth my view is based on their technical abilities coupled with their ability to put the ball in the back of the net. If all other conditions were equal I would say you would be extremely hard placed to distinguish between them.

Muller played for Bayern Munich and West Germany Shearer played for Newcastle United and England Compare the achievements of the teams over their respective playing periods and tell me which ones it was easier to score for fun in. Easier to score in? If you're using that logic it was probably harder for Heskey to score for Leicester than Shearer to score for Newcastle Ergo Heskey > Shearer > Muller? Yes....that was the absolute extent of my argument. It had no other basis at all. Heskey has more medals than Shearer as well tbh Are you trying to prove my point for me?

Muller played for Bayern Munich and West Germany Shearer played for Newcastle United and England Compare the achievements of the teams over their respective playing periods and tell me which ones it was easier to score for fun in. Look at what Bayern Munich were before Muller joined them. And Beckenbauer Beckenbauer has said in the past Bayern would have been nowhere without Muller. Do you think Beckenbauer would come out and say they'd have been nowhere without himself though? If he had the ego of someone like Romario then he would. Precisely and he'd have been right to.

Muller played for Bayern Munich and West Germany Shearer played for Newcastle United and England Compare the achievements of the teams over their respective playing periods and tell me which ones it was easier to score for fun in. Easier to score in? If you're using that logic it was probably harder for Heskey to score for Leicester than Shearer to score for Newcastle Ergo Heskey > Shearer > Muller? Yes....that was the absolute extent of my argument. It had no other basis at all.

Muller played for Bayern Munich and West Germany Shearer played for Newcastle United and England Compare the achievements of the teams over their respective playing periods and tell me which ones it was easier to score for fun in. Look at what Bayern Munich were before Muller joined them. And Beckenbauer Beckenbauer has said in the past Bayern would have been nowhere without Muller. Do you think Beckenbauer would come out and say they'd have been nowhere without himself though?

Muller played for Bayern Munich and West Germany Shearer played for Newcastle United and England Compare the achievements of the teams over their respective playing periods and tell me which ones it was easier to score for fun in. Look at what Bayern Munich were before Muller joined them. And Beckenbauer

Nah, Marco had everything. Probably the only out and out striker that was better than Muller IMO Oh and another glaring omission on Matt's list. Gullit was miles better than Keegan. Where the holy fuck is Rijkaard as well? The complete striker. Agree re: Rijkard too, class player. Also, has no one mentioned Platini? Better than Zidane imo. Definitely a case of deciding who would partner Van Basten tbf.

Muller played for Bayern Munich and West Germany Shearer played for Newcastle United and England Compare the achievements of the teams over their respective playing periods and tell me which ones it was easier to score for fun in.

I'd have Muller on the bench too. Shearer was as good as him-it's only his medal collection that would beg to differ