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What the......where did you get that from?? Its says nothing of the sort. Only in self-defence. Thats what most people dont get. Its not Islam or Christianity that have bought the world to war, its exactly the opposite. Its people either forgetting, or completely altering the teachings of Islam and Christianity that has led to this stage. How many people on this thread have said 'I dont give a crap about religion'? Thats happening all over the world, people forgetting true religion or altering it to suit whatever they feel like at the time. Its not just happening to religion, while muslims and christians are forgetting what their religion tells them, ethics morals etc are disappearing gradually on the world level, no doubt about it.

Islam does mean peace. Its Arabic acutally. And killing nuns and burning churches is not fundamental Islam(as somebody called it earlier in the thread) for heavens sake. If you people were to do a bit of research before trying to be clever and passing on cheeky comments you would know that kind of thing is completely prohibited by Islam and anyone who does it is not a muslim although he may call himself that. These people are not extremists or 'fundamental muslims', they are people who are using Islam as a cover up to carry out whatever evil ambitions they've got, and the world just seems to be falling for their plot. They may be muslims by name, but Islam does not mean anything to them, so they'll gladly use it for their own purposes. Please acutally try and do a bit of research on something before passing a verdict on it, you and a few others obviously know nothing about Islam and base your opinions on whatever you read in papers and watch on the TV. Now people blowing themselves up in Iraq/Afghanistan is somewhat different. They are desperate, weak and largely helpless muslims who are trying to fight an invasion. Also, a few bomb blasts here and there makes muslims ruthless killers, but facts such as the US wiping out 50 000 people in Japan with a single bomb or the estimate that 60000-180000 people(most of them innocent) have been killed by western forces in Iraq and afghanistan thus far dont seem to bother many people.

I'll have to stop you there, because that is bollocks. Im not criticizing the intentions of the Pope or the Vatican, they are still probably honest to their faith. But if you look around very few people actually look to them for guidance now, I mean the elections caused something of a stir but that was about it. Just like the Queen gets a mention on her birthday but hardly anybody takes them seriously apart from that. Its not just happening to Christianity, the same can be said about Islam. Hundreds of millions of people call themselves muslims, but I'd say almost half of them arent true ones anymore. They change laws as they like and ignore ones that dont suit them. However Islamic leaders still hold reasonable power in their countries. Everyone seems to have their own ideas as to God and faith. Religion, priests, holy books all are becoming less and less popular.

Its not the muslim world, its some people that have been driven to desperation. The US and the west have been kicking around the rest of the world as they please, not just the muslims. The muslims, being week and largely helpless, have now resorted to these tactics in retaliation. The muslims are themselves partly to blame for this, they have lost pace in the world and are backward and thus cannot face the US and co. face to face. But the latter are wrong when thinking they have a holy right on the earth and can do whatever they please. That bred terrorism in the first place and the only way to stop it is accepting the muslims and other races as human beings.

The vatican is saying that the pope didnt intend to hurt muslim feelings. And that comes after the pope said" Prophet Muhammed has only brought evil and inhuman things into the world". Dont blame them much to be honest, the vatican holds little importance these days and the pope is simply there as a historical figure, like the queen. They've got nothing better to do than to make these statements.

Aye, I thought we could have easily gotten those two. But Roeder was apparently more interested in signing Sibierski. We can enjoy watching Bramble and Co. destroy any chances of success this season meanwhile.

Any chance of a Keane led Sunderland versus a Shearer led Newcastle in a few years? I can see Roeder getting the sack and Big Al taking over, but I cant see Sunderland coming up by then

Last season, I was team mates with a lad that used to play for West Allotment Celtic. He was dynamite. Explosive pace or muslim ??????????? Very Funny

Any chance of one with all our new signings in it?

True, and its not like he's way better than Rossi. I'd give the lad a chance anyway, with Sibierski coming on if the Martins/Rossi partenership doesnt work.

Thought he was fantastic today for Boro, still gutted we didnt get him on loan. If Bramble had half the composure Woody showed today, we would have been celebrating 3 points.

Quite right, if parker keeps on playing like this he'll be in the England squad no time. Plus I thought Emre was better today than hes been for quite some time. We had good possesion and created decent chances. Thats what drives me up the wall though, we dominate the whole game and hardly give them a sniff but what do you know we gift them two goals out of nothing. Typical Newcastle The whole team suffers just because one or two people keep on making the same mistakes again and again. So bloody frustrating!!!!!!

You also said that only Henry could have scored the goal Luque scored against Lillestrom, so it's not like you never talk shit. 196080[/snapback] I dont want to start that debate all over again, but it seems funny to me that nobody mentioned even a remotely similar goal scored by a player in England. Anyway, dont you think I might have been slightly right about the defender thing?

I feel somewhat sorry for him, can we really blame him for Bramble and Carr's stupidity? Im sure when he's talking to them he feels like he's trying to teach nuclear physics to a donkey.

I had suggested before the season had started that finding a new CB was perhaps more important than a new striker, but I was completely bombarded with replies telling me how clueless and stupid I was. Well, go and and enjoy the season now lads.

Dont know what Roeder will start but here is what I hope he will put out: ----------------Given------------------ Carr------Taylor-------Moore-------Bernard Duff-------Parker---------Emre--------N'Zogbia -------------Martins---------Rossi

any idea of the transfer fee? surely not more than 200 or 300k? he's not a bad player me thinks, decent backup but he's nowhere near as good as what we wanted.

Good to know the lad is this determined, to go along with his ability. Cant wait to see him in action today

Im sure Inzi would have first wanted to talk to each and everyone of his players before making a decision like that. He had to make sure noone actually messed with the ball, then take action. Tea was close, he waited for it instead of calling a conference in the middle of the pitch. I do agree with you people that Pakistan could have handled this better, either dont come out at all or get on with it straight away. But Hair's action's were way out of order, accusing without any evidence. Im glad the people like Atherton, Hussain and Botham are seeing the sense in it. The stuff about Pakistan having a criminal history in the game is not exactly false, we've caused our fair share of controversies but you cant just think that the current players would do the same thing past ones did, moreover base such an accusation on it. By the way its not like you lot have a clean history, with the famous 'bodyline' series and atherton carrying dirt in his pockets and all

Yep. You would think that with so many cameras around these days they would pick up anything of the sort. Furthurmore, the umpires havent pointed out who did it or when. The funny thing is, the pakistan cricket board requested the ECB to appoint other umpires for the tour, since these two have been involved in so many scandals with us. The ECB turned down the request, and the bloody bastids are doing it again. They took the second test away from us with some unbelievable decisions and now they've messed up what was a great performance. Ian Botham pointed out that when the ball is that old there is no way you can judge that it has been tampered with just by looking at it, and when there is no TV evidence and the umpires fail to give an explanation, the players had every reason to go on strike. What a disgrace!!! Saying that I do hope nothing really happened, and these umpires were messing with just as they have been doing so in the past.

I dont start swearing at people just because they think a goal is better than it perhaps was. I will now stop wasting my time around scum like yourself.

Im delighted to know that you can read the age from under my avatar, so you are not completely incompetent. I will not get dragged into a war of abuse with you, you have proven yourself to be highly immature and yet you call me a child. I wont come down to your level, as cliched as that might sound. Im just curious, is this just because Ive been defending Luque?? Exactly why the hatred?? Good to see you spent your afternoon doing something constructive.

Where are portsmouth getting all this money from??

My team's problem is we're shit tbh, for which I partly blame the FAI and partly genetics. If you had a true understanding of what made Luque's goal so "great", you would find it easier to describe in technical terms. I actually agree with some of the general points you're putting across, but I can't be bothered to discuss it with you properly, as I made pretty clear early on, because I think you're a moron, so I think I'll just jeep laughing at you instead. Thanks for the entertainment, though. 176489[/snapback] All you seem to do on here is make one line comments about posts or the people who made them, so im not surprised you dont 'bother' to discuss it properly. You seem pretty incapable of doing so. Other people probably think im just as crazy for posting this thread as you do, but they've presented their points and debated forcefully. You on the other hand, have just been picking up on what they've said and chip in with a bitchy comment every now and again. I might have a couple of strange ideas, but in all honestly you are the moron. Ive said everything I could have about luque, its clear 99% of you dont agree with me. Finally, i would just like to summarise what ive been saying. Luque has NOT been great for us, and im not saying he will be. But i think he's got the ability to be and we are wrong to pass this judgement at this moment.

Ah, so you're the one with the prejudice problem. What about the people who don't agree with you who aren't English? Can you try and explain the technical aspects of why Luque's goal was so good? I know it's hard to dumb it down to my level, but I would really love to understand. You can find the goal on youtube.com if you're having difficulty remembering. 176475[/snapback] Prejudice problem?? I am merely pointing out what I think your teams weakness is. England lacked flair and skill in the world cup, and they have for sometime now. Its the seeming inability to understand what flair and skill really is, and that sometimes mere hardwork is not enough and needs to be supplemented with natural talent. I think I pretty much explained why luques goal was so good in my last post but i'll try again. The way he stopped the ball, went past the defender and finished it requires technical ability that noone else at our club and most other people at other premier league clubs dont have.