Toonpack

Y'mean those comments where you have grabbed the completely wrong end of the stick despite inummerable pointings out, those comments ????

I always do, when I have time. But I am ignoring the diatribe based bollocks for the good of the board.

So it's a "suss out" for Leazes but for anyone else it's a "move of goalposts" or a "180 degree backtrack" but not a "suss out". It's been way over 4 years and you still haven't "sussed" someone else out btw. Aye OK

Leazesmag If they are genuine quotes then, OH DEAR. Live by the digging up of 6 year old posts, die by the digging up of 4 year old posts. Superb

I'll just take the Brazil side from WC 1970

That's backstage at a KISS concert. Genius

You haven't read one word that's been posted by several people, several times, about the make-up/type of debt have you Anyway am not getting dragged onto the roundabout again, but just one last fact for ya: Since the Premier League arrived on the scene 54 English clubs have gone into/been in Administration. (as per the BBC in that Football finance documentary the other week).

if they get it right this summer, i'll be the first to admit i was wrong on here and congratulate the board for investing well. really though, they haven't really done anything up until now to convince anyone on here that they will get it right this time. the fuckwit doesn't deserve another chance. most of us are rightly assuming he's going to mess it up again. you got it wrong ages ago when you said the old owners were shite etc OOOOH look what the broken record dragged up again

The Sports Direct sign on the roof boils my piss. I don't know where you watch the match, but I'm in Level 7 and it dominates my view at the game. It may be irrelevant to you, but to me it exemplifies everything that is twattish about the man. The two year old lie that it was a temporary measure to sell adverting space, that it would fund a bigger transfer kitty, the complete lack of regard for fans, the refusal to consult on any issue, rubbed right in my face and I pay £400 for the privelige. I don't blame anyone else that thinks it's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but you're nit-picking about what the biggest fuck ups are in an undeniable pattern of many fuck-ups. Pick whichever fuck-ups you like. We all agree the man's been a shambles though. Agreed, in almost everything except the finances. P.S. You "were" in Level 7 unfortunately, the league tables and european places aren't decided by balance sheets Club survival is though, well that and benefactors Edit - and I mean survival in the "football" sense, not the commercial sense.

It's somewhat spurious to make any comparison until we see the French lad on the park tbh. But if he stays for his contract duration (well down to his last year) I would hope he'll play more games than JB has and thus be "better" for the team.

The Sports Direct sign on the roof boils my piss. I don't know where you watch the match, but I'm in Level 7 and it dominates my view at the game. It may be irrelevant to you, but to me it exemplifies everything that is twattish about the man. The two year old lie that it was a temporary measure to sell adverting space, that it would fund a bigger transfer kitty, the complete lack of regard for fans, the refusal to consult on any issue, rubbed right in my face and I pay £400 for the privelige. I don't blame anyone else that thinks it's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but you're nit-picking about what the biggest fuck ups are in an undeniable pattern of many fuck-ups. Pick whichever fuck-ups you like. We all agree the man's been a shambles though. Agreed, in almost everything except the finances. P.S. You "were" in Level 7

Sack Keegan - they didn't. Hire Kinnear - yep, utter crap, Sell Given - He wanted out and made it VERY plain (squad atmosphere appeared crap thanks to the mercenaries so maybe fair enough on Given's part) Wallpaper the stadium - Seriously, is that in any shape or form a big deal Sell Carroll - £35Million bloody quid, no brainer !!!!! I had assumed you were only making the best of the last couple of years, which I can comprehend if not agree with. If you're looking to excuse the holocaust of a season that was 08/09 you're asking to be shit on. Not excusing 08/09, which was utter carnage, it's just out of the example's of disaster you chose to pull out, they aren't all what I woudl call, real disasters, particularly the last two. The abortive and embarrasing sale attempts (applications by email etc. and getting pissed up in Dubai and missing the meeting with the Arabs) for example, would have been better example than "wallpapering the stadium". I'm more woried about 4, 5, 8, 17, 44.... Thinking that 4, 5, 9, 45, 1809.... might have been better example. You feel me? I apologise, I thought (assumed) the things that "grind your beans" the most would have been those that just flowed out with ease at the top of the list and as such were what you posted. I therefore misread that, I do have a bugbear that, in the scheme of things, the "wallpaper on the roof" in particular is beyond an irrelevance and that "got me going".

Sack Keegan - they didn't. Hire Kinnear - yep, utter crap, Sell Given - He wanted out and made it VERY plain (squad atmosphere appeared crap thanks to the mercenaries so maybe fair enough on Given's part) Wallpaper the stadium - Seriously, is that in any shape or form a big deal Sell Carroll - £35Million bloody quid, no brainer !!!!! I had assumed you were only making the best of the last couple of years, which I can comprehend if not agree with. If you're looking to excuse the holocaust of a season that was 08/09 you're asking to be shit on. Not excusing 08/09, which was utter carnage, it's just out of the example's of disaster you chose to pull out, they aren't all what I woudl call, real disasters, particularly the last two. The abortive and embarrasing sale attempts (applications by email etc. and getting pissed up in Dubai and missing the meeting with the Arabs) for example, would have been better example than "wallpapering the stadium".

Sack Keegan - they didn't. Hire Kinnear - yep, utter crap, Sell Given - He wanted out and made it VERY plain (squad atmosphere appeared crap thanks to the mercenaries so maybe fair enough on Given's part) Wallpaper the stadium - Seriously, is that in any shape or form a big deal Sell Carroll - £35Million bloody quid, no brainer !!!!!

Madness You are joking surely?? well, if you are happy to continue selling our best players to the likes of Spurs and Liverpool ........ So, you pay the wages out of what ??

I don't think Barton wanted out originally, well not until McKay met the club and the offer'd been withdrawn (have we got anyone's word for that other than McKay's ?? I don't recall) but I think after the original impassioned "I'll play it out, I want to stay" utterances, which he should have kept up tbh, the manouvering started. I'd bet McKay got calls and they've upped the ante. If he has just fired off, he's been badly advised and as his agent is "you know who", I find that very hard to believe. He was on Twitter for 3 days before he said anything remotely "controversial", enough time to get a goodly number of followers up. Plenty time to tell his side of the story later. If he REALLY wanted to stay/get the offer back on the table he should have played it straight. Just my opinion (cynicism) though.

It's the first serepticious step towards the "return of the combover"

In public, taking an add out in the press, as an analogy, to put your grievance in front of your fellow employees and customers, really ?? It's not called "having your say and not being trampled over" in the real world (anywhere but football) it's called career suicide. I don't doubt the people in charge are economical with the facts, but equally I don't doubt players and their agents are as well. I don't trust any of them. But what I also don't do is swallow everything that's said as gospel so long as it's derogatory to the club/owner. It's always about the money, on both sides. If he'd kept his gob shut until he was either sold or played out his last year, then I'd give it some creedence. Or at least taken the moral high ground as it were and kept the "I want to stay" line going, great. But he knows he's popular, his agent is a bona fide prize cunt and obviously by pure coincidence he's pushing all the right Anti-Ashley buttons.

Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest, Ashley and lambias are braindead fuckwitts who instead of keeping their best players will snap the hands off when anyone comes in with money and with Barton there is the additional bonus that he's slagged them off several times so they won't be able to wait to shift him out the door. And if there was any doubt in Enriques mind as to whether to stay or go because of the piss poor lack of ambition here then losing Barton will just confirm it nicely for him, and if he joins Barton who else might want to go. Aye, well played Joey (and Mr McKay)

Madness You are joking surely??

What was the name of the ITK again, that you religiously followed and quoted regardless of how often he was wrong .. Gervinho or not, looking very possible you may need that T shirt printed

He's away man !!! All this wait until we're safe, Oh we are safe!!, OK wait to see what we spend, is all bollocks. Absolutely no reason, if there was any intention of staying, he couldn't have done a deal with a release clause in it for relegation, for example. Him his agent wanted to get to the window to see what's available. He's a young footballer in the last year of his contract and he wants to leave. End of.

That is not in doubt.

He's doing exactly what Carroll should have done if he had really wanted to stay when the club wanted to sell. He's "appearing" to do it, whilst all the while he is, in reality, making it more difficult/unlikely to come to pass. Should be keeping his gob shut until he's gone (one way or the other) moral high ground and all that, he's just playing to the audience IMO.

I didnt say that though. The observations I read were discussing how Bartons influence while channelled positively is good, however a negative Barton could have an eroding influence. Anyone who thinks Bartons comments at talk ins, in the press and now via twitter are positive for NUFC or assisting his chances of staying at the club, are mad. I love Barton as has been evident over time on here but I certainly dont want a sulky, argumentative Barton hanging around. Needs addressing quickly. So you'd rather he swept it under the carpet, took his wages and moved along quietly? Not Barton's way, really. I'm glad Barton has had his say on the matter, no smokescreens, no bullshit just the situation as the player sees it, if people at the club have their own views they are free to air them. I'm sure the local/non local journalists will provide them with a platform. One thing about Barton is that he doesn't seem the type to sit on the fence, it's fairly obvious that there's bad blood between him and the hierarchy and an extra year with a pay cut seems a fair enough compromise to me. (He gets his extra year option, they get the pay cut), but maybe he's not wanted by the big Cheese. There's no conspiracy, the people in charge are, in my opinion, huffy bastards who have deliberately closed a section who occasionally gave them the bird and have strung along some of the younger displaced supporters with vague talk of relocating them together before denying them this opportunity once the final game is out the way and verbal protests are avoided. Barton has had run ins with them so he's out as well. First bold bit - Yes I would, until he was out of contract or sold. He's making his position untenable at the club. It's simply a "negotiating tactic" but designed for him to escape "lillywhite" in the eyes of the fans IMO, but it's not about the money. How far would you get slagging your employer (however much you dislike him/her) in public, there's been plenty of "normal" people sacked for saying inappropriate things on Twitter/Fbook. Second Bold bit - If you had ultimate control and someone (or a collection of someones) was pissing you off, wouldn't you do the same. I would. Although based on threads I've read here and elsewhere isn't just about everyone loosely back together ??