jaythesouthernmag

Like selling Carroll for £35m and buying BA and Cisse for just over 10 or flogging Nolan for 3 and buying Cabaye for 4 ? It baffles me how anyone can knock that

That's all well and good but where is the Carroll money???

Leazes, explain where I said Birmingham is an example we should follow

Barton was/is a timebomb but I would like another right sided player if he can't get Ben Arfa playing there

Example? Cabaye is better and younger than Nolan Both BA and Cisse were cheaper and are better than Carroll Tiote is better than any cdm in recent history and cost relative peanuts. Colo cost a lot less than the previous lot spunked on Boumsong Some people love to get hung up on negatives, which I agree there have been plenty but this is the best side in ages

WOW!!! You can make that assumption from what I posted there? Kind of shows the working of the Leazes brain

where is the Carroll cash ? Great response, I never saw that one coming chum

he's just won a winners medal in a Wembley final, and who do you think is more likely to break into the top 4 between us and Liverpool ? End of story So did the Birmingham players last year. I don't think either us or Liverpool will get top 4 but they have spent over 100mil not doing it and they are still below us in the table. God you must be fucking praying we don't finish above them this season

You can't sell all the players, or you won't have any players left to sell. Listening to some people you think they would

Not giving 5 year contracts to players knocking on 30 is a travesty Selling players and replacing them with better,cheaper,younger ones is unacceptable Potentially getting into Europe in our second season back in the premiership is a massive under achievement Spending 10mil on one of the best strikers in the German league is a sign of a club that doesn't back its manager Not selling Tiote,Colo,BA,Krul and Cabaye are clearly the actions of a selling club It's all doom and fucking gloom at Newcastle United

If a club offered anywhere near what they paid for Carroll they would snatch their fucking arms off. He's done next to fuck all there and that's from Liverpool fans

ah, and sensible investment in football is dead easy, in fact everybody else in football did it except NUFC under the old regime, and the new regime has decided not to even attempt it, and is keeping the bulk of the cash from sales rather than help their manager to attempt it, so that's OK then. Meanwhile, as - according to some on here - we were/are in with a chance of a Champions League place, just think what could have been if they had even thought about attempting it. A little bit of speculating may just have accumulated, but we have no chance of matching Man City's spending, so whats the point in trying to match the likes of Liverpool and Spurs ? Liverpool did and they look doomed to fail in their quest for 4th, Spurs on the other hand are odds on, they have also done it without breaking the bank. That's what we should be aiming for

Didn't say that but its about sensible investment if you don't have unlimited funds, you disagree with that?

shame about all those trophy players Liverpool bought mind. Still, you know best Carling cup is a tin pot trophy. You think Liverpool will be happy with that and a 6th place finish given the level of investment? It took them 120 minutes and penalties to get past a mediocre championship team, they are closer to us than they are to City and Man U. The way you go on its like they are Barcelona. It's their first trophy in 6 years

They have been though, for the past few years. And as a result they have regressed as a team and as a club. Sign of the times, no team can compete with the mega bucks that are being chucked around and Arsenal are the proof of that. It's Man U, City, Chelsea then the rest. Spurs are currently leading the rest without spending ridiculous amounts of money

Arsenal make £63m from player sales but won't invest it all into transfers, what a terrible way to run a club, selling the players and pocketing the cash. No way they will ever challenge the top 4. Selling club. Mmmmmm

exactly. Alternatively, you can take the route Mike Ashley has chosen, which is not to bother trying to complete and behaving like a 2nd rate selling club instead. Which meets with the approval of the "anybody but Fred" brigade and the wannabee financial whizz kids on message boards. Nice cherry picking there Leazes

they are obviously going to sink without trace and/or get beat by Berwick Rangers every week in front of 25 supporters, so sayeth the financial experts. I don't think anyone said that and that is the typical answer I would expect from you. Try answering the points I made rather than posting a stupid, flippant response

Call it bollocks if you like, but I am only interested in pure FACTS, I am not interested in papering over the cracks with sentimental gibberish. Fact is with 1 point we'd be rock bottom of the league. Do you need me to explain it to you? It's not string theory, 1 point = ROCK BOTTOM. Even Wigan have amassed 20 points at this stage. What about the teams on minus goal difference? Surely they would be below us on zero points. Daft as fuck theory by the way

Leazes,When Rangers come out of administration do you think they will be afforded the same credit terms by financial institutions? Of course it effects clubs its just you are too dense to see it. If a club doesn't have rich owners willing to bankroll it then its got to be run in a sensible way otherwise, sooner or later the inevitable happens. Not necessarly going bust but certainly cutting back on wages and transfer fees etc

He says he doesn't approve of giving a 30 year old a five year deal on £55k a week but that's what it would have taken to keep Nolan, yet he slates the sale,how does that work?

the point is where is the Carroll cash ? Or do you think we have such a soopa doopa team and are winning every game, we can't do any better ? And in case you didn't realise, stuck in your armchair, its a squad game. You need more than 11 players. Have a word with yourself, I agree we could do with a couple of squad players but for you to use that to support your argument for selling Carroll,Barton,Nolan and Enrique is frankly stupid

Which of the players which you keep mentioning would get into our starting 11 now?

because people like you, don't appear to realise what "pocketing the cash" means, "withholding the cash and not backing the manager to attempt to build the best team possible" may impact more on your little brain Yeah, I get it. Like spending ten million on Cisse and not selling anyone. Never mind soon be the end of the season and you can start hoping he flogs our best players

Quick read through the last few pages and it reads like most of the thread. One noticable change tho, "Pocketing the cash' now changed to "witholding the cash"