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penalties at the end of normal time.

Why? for responding to personal abuse from that loser? I didn`t start the name calling.

Although it has to be said their goal was offside.

Yes you are a cock. you're a cock, you're a cock, you're a cock. Speaking of complete tools.........

No way was that a pen. Webb really is a tool.

Frings and Ballack lightweights? They were both rubbish today. Ballack was appalling and is hardly what one would call a heavyweight.

He's a nationalistic grade A twat with no sense for sportsmanship tbh. He's a good manager though. Fantastic in motivating players and letting his team play some decent football. I am not sure if he was a success for any other team but Croatia. Croatia totally deserved it. They were the better team for nearly the whole 90 minutes. It's telling when Lehmann is your best player. Frings and Ballack got bossed in midfield and losing far too many balls. Set pieces were crap as well. Only with Schweinsteiger came a bit of creativity. It probably wasn't a red card, but if you push a player you are always in trouble. There are too many players who are not in form. Without a major increase from nearly everybody it will even be difficult against Austria... They`ll still beat Austria at a stroll but they won`t win it out.

............against other lightweights.

Polish goalkeeper is really good. Webb is a shockingly poor ref.

2 crap teams.

has been for 2 years.

Not a good thing.

I think you`ll find I didn`t say that. I never mentioned Traore once. Fuck me you are hard work. No, but you said winning the CL would make him (Traore) happier than Solano. I am saying, you don't know that. No. I said that players who win titles are most likely happier with their careers than those who don`t. Seeing as noone can prove it, it is more likely.......given the objective of a player. Really simple.

Ok then, so does that just make you a stupid tit? No.

I think you`ll find I didn`t say that. I never mentioned Traore once.

Obsessed with us, tbs tbs Wouldn`t go that far tbh. Mildly obsessed tbh Fun obsessed would even be stretching it tbh For someone also obsessed with punctuation (see other thread), didn't do so well there did ya? I`m not obsessed with punctuation. Btw, 'ya' is incorrect.

No, but a happier one. What bollocks. Tell me, how the fuck do you quantify happiness? Surely its a measure of ones own expectations? Yes, and surely winning something would make a footballer a happier person.....................seeing as that is their prime objective? How is that bollocks? That must be why they celebrate so wildly when the do win something!

Obsessed with us, tbs tbs Wouldn`t go that far tbh. Mildly obsessed tbh Fun obsessed would even be stretching it tbh

You cannot choose to be anything from birth, it is chosen for you............like religion! .............and we all know whata pile of cock that is! Me, I`d rather choose. you really are a tit Perhaps, but I can punctuate my sentences. That makes you a stupid tit. And people change/choose religions all the time. And...................? Not according to T-Keith they don`t!

Obsessed with us, tbs tbs Wouldn`t go that far tbh.

No, but a happier one.

Not his life..................but his trophy cabinet is another matter! So according to you, only players who win trophies can be heroes for their clubs? Guess there's a lot of clubs out there with no heroes then. Fans shouldn't love their "underachieving" players if they don't win a trophy? You don't half talk shite sometimes. I thought you were cleaning up your crack? I said he might regret not having won some major honours, what the fuck is wrong with that? Love him if you want. I never said you shouldn`t.

How much?...................if you can`t offload him, how long will you have to pay him for? He's what 2 years into a 5 year (?) deal? Oh deary me, good move by Duff though. Whatever it is we'll save £3m a year by shifting him. I agree. I think Ashley is perseuing the right policy and tidying the place up financially. It will pay dividends in about 3 years or even less.