ChezGiven
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Most likely to walk sheepishly out of a public toilet cubicle.
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The whole western media conspiracy is a conspiracy by Russian media is a western media conspiracy tbh.
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Poster easiest to get a bite of
You have failed so many times too though.
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Just goes to show how stupid the phrase MSM is to lump everything together with that organization.
My view is the the phrase MSM has been pushed by the Russian and Chinese media to undermine the broadly free western press as the main threat to their own information war.
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We got rid of him, we got relegated and I'm the one who got it wrong?
He's a hateful cunt but he was still better than Carver and Mclaren. We are in the championship btw Alex.
Am hoping a 4 lol response to this.
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Like an episode of Gordon Ramsey's Dubai kitchen nightmares.
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My boss loves them, usually necks 3 or 4 at the start of a night out and forces them on us. He is actually Italian so its fair enough.
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I thought it was the Jewish Chronicle?
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Happy birthday you massive bell.
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That Craig Murray wanker looking more and more like a right twat.
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I've frequented the Morrison's in Blyth a few times, mincing about looking for Chablis and baguettes. Usually get no bother as most people think am foreign or that i own Northumberland or something.
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Thought Lost in a Dream was one of the best albums of 2014
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My boss is the spit of Trotsky. The similarity starts and ends there like.
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The catch here is that Western capital is heavily invested in China and Vice versa. Mandhelson found out many moons ago when he tried to get the EU to take a harder line.
https://www.ft.com/content/8892d198-f1ba-11e5-aff5-19b4e253664a
“The Chinese are deeply concerned and we hear now from reliable sources in Beijing who suggest the Chinese government, the Communist Party, are developing lists of U.S. interests against which they could retaliate, commercial interests, and obviously one merely has to look at top U.S. exports to China to get a quick sense of whose heads may be on the chopping block,” said one China trade policy expert who interacts closely with U.S. business.
The expert pointed out that more than 30 states have over $1 billion in exports to China and that there is over $500 billion in commercial engagements by U.S. companies in China. All of that would be at risk if China retaliated.
“That commercial engagement supports American jobs, many American jobs here in the United States,” the expert said.''
http://fortune.com/2016/12/13/donald-trump-business-conflict-interest/
But odd for an article to focus on the $1bn of exports from US to China without valuing Chinese exports to US. Looks roughly around $40bn last year, could be more.
Maybe that's what Trump is looking at?
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The catch here is that Western capital is heavily invested in China and Vice versa. Mandhelson found out many moons ago when he tried to get the EU to take a harder line.
https://www.ft.com/content/8892d198-f1ba-11e5-aff5-19b4e253664a
The Chinese are the one's with the problem now, the US debt is held by Chinese banks meaning. They can devalue their currency etc but their tools will likely be more political than economic. A timely article from the Guardian on this very topic
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She fucks young kids whilst smothering ham and pineapple pizza on her tits ffs, she's a monster.
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@@Renton @ Rayvin Can we not have the parochial Corbyn / Labour party bickering in this thread instead?
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The most interesting thing about Trump is the shift in geo-politics in the middle east, with Russia and ultimately the economic shift towards China. I think the left / right angle will play out on the basis of how successful he is turning round the economy.
So far his geo-political pivot has been away from Iran towards moderate gulf states, aligning with Russia on ISIS. However, its the reversing of the Nixon-era position on 'one China' as he beefs up intentions to fight the Chinese change their WTO rules that indicates how he is looking at things.
A big issue in US / EU is dumping of goods by the Chinese. The WTO rules dont allow countries / companies to sell at less than cost (especially if subsidised by governments) as this is a predatory tactic that kills domestic industry and is a blatant flouting of free market rules. The Chinese as we all know dump subsidised goods on markets (e.g. Steel) and then provide data on their costs to the WTO that no one ( the EU and US) believes. However, as China is not currently defined as a free market economy (it is assumed the government is involved, as they are in their planned economy), then the WTO uses comparative cost data from other countries and then calculates fines.
Trump's call to Taiwan is about resetting the relationship in the WTO as he looks to deliver on his rust belt promises.
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Love the ranting old git, is it a mate of your's P?
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Your timeline starts after this...
http://www.stripes.com/news/us-nato-move-ahead-with-romanian-anti-missile-base-1.249597
and portrays Russia as acting to claw Ukraine back from a move West rather than Russia responding to a move east by US and NATO forces.
This has long been documented as a Russian fear that has gone unheeded by our expansion.
Absolutely, all of that is true. That's not the point though, the events around November 21st and onwards are meant to be a CIA plot. The point is that's not true. The US, NATO and the EU all have a strategy that is based on bringing more countries into their fold based on free markets, democracy and prosperity. Ukraine was a target based on their domestic political landscape, the country was willing and politically ready to join the west. The CIA plot was a propaganda tool used but the Russians to justify their illegal annexation of Crimea. As shown earlier, the protests and anger at the Ukrainian governments u turn on EU integration existed without external influence. It's that base of political feeling that political strategists are analyzing when deploying their influence. The 'fascist led coup' line from the Russians and their ability to get that message to stick on western social media was part of their strategy. If the Russian narrative was true, where are those fascists?
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Wait wait wait, the US have NEVER interfered in the elections of another country in such a way. Only Russia is that nefarious.
FFS.
Thats not the point! FFS
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Oh and by the way, here we are: deep in the murky details where the Russian propagandists want you to be so that the cry of 'it's the MSM' or similar can pull us out of the narrative / counter-narrative warren hole and lead us into the brave new post truth world.
You're being mugged Parky.
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This feels like normal politics to me, didnt hear anything out of the ordinary.
I imagine people who dont know how the world works getting a bit fidgety as it sounds like the US it pushing for a political outcomes and has a strategy. Its called the Foreign Office and every country has one doing the same things. What matters is they act within the bounds of the law.
Certainly doesnt change anything or prove that ridiculous article you then post that was obvioulsy written back when the line 'fascist led coup' didnt sound so stupid. Thats what you are posting about by the way, not that the US were involved or not, you are posting articles from people who want you to believe that the fascists took over Ukraine in 2014.
Did they?
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And Russian media isn't ?