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ChezGiven

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  1. Interesting and sensible. Is it politically achievable over here? Presumably the barrier is that it's just too hard a sell for one of our two relevant parties?

     

    Too hard a sell when people shit themselves at the thought of NHS reform. 

  2. I'd say no but then those people are probably shelling out a lot more than we are anyway, on NI.

     

    Also, if we end up doing this, and people are effectively covering their own premiums, if someone is willfully fat, a smoker, eats poorly, does drugs, enjoys base jumping, etc - all manner of potentially life shortening issues, do they get a higher premium? They probably would do, I expect.

     

    Regulation is the key. Obamacare fails where it does fail as the Republicans watered out the good regulation. All markets need a form of regulation where market outcomes have social importance. If we want to avoid a socially bad outcome relating to lifestyle choice and premiums, regulation can intervene.  

  3. I agree, if the issue is people getting bent out of shape about insurance then yes, that's pointless. Assuming of course that those who can't afford insurance are still covered.

     

    Which is the model followed by the European countries who have this sort of system. FYI there are 2 systems in Europe, NHS systems like in Nordics, Spain and UK and what we call SHI systems. Social Health Insurance as per France and Germany.

     

    As the French and Germans follow this model, they raise directly 10 to 12% of GDP to go on health. As our health budget is negotiated through the CSRs (Comprehensive Spending Reviews which are Whitehalls internal bun fight over money), our NHS is politicised as the total allocated is traded off against other political objectives. Politically the govt says its ring fenced but in fact its targeted in real terms for future projections.

     

    A SHI system is a form of hypothecation and allows more money to be allocated and for those who earn to contribute more. The trade off is equity as poor people get no choice but richer people get better services and can top up to go private etc. 

  4. Where can I place a bet that the next step will be making those working for companies offering health insurance or over a household income of 50k before tax (the same as child credit?) will need to pay to see a GP or use A&E for non medical emergencies.

     

    If you put that figure at income over 500k would you think it was fair? 

  5. Sure but if you talk about insurance people shit themselves which is essentially the same thing. The money comes from Tax its ok. The money comes from state run insurance 'mutuals' and people think its an issue. I'm not saying thats the solution but there is an aversion to private elements in the funding model which is not coherent with where taxes come from. 

     

    There are options is what i want to say. 

  6. You're right its the next battle Parky. One of the big signs for me that Trump was going to win was how many of my colleagues in New Jersey supported him. People in high salary brackets, great lives, full insurance, college funds the lot and they were bought into it. Our lass says the same about her office in France and people there who make comments about Le Pen. Worrying. 

  7. How's your Muslim internment camps working out?

     

    :lol: I'd stick you in one. When ISIS gets children to behead innocent people i think dripping some water on a few Belgies heads who are carrying explosives around seems like a fair move. They dont lock them up as they want to watch the. Why do you think Twitter bans that cunt off Breitbart but the ISIS account is still active? 

  8. See what we have here is that none of you actually know what you're talking about and like sheep are just regurgitating half truths and propaganda. Sorry state of affairs. I knew exactly which things you donkeys would come out with before I even posted.

     

    The battle moves to France.

     

    And you regurgitate stuff that David Icke publishes. So theres that. 

  9. Ok.

     

    Lets be clear here. Breitbart and Bannon are dangerous. He is a racist and his site publishes fake news. I think there is a lot of propaganda and mis information in Syria but the right are hard at work spinning everything Trump does and says and have been for the last 9 months. They are expert at defending against grabbing pussy and being supported by the KKK, appointing Bannon is a walk in the park for them spin wise. 

  10. And Parky, you are the one with the wool over your eyes here. Not the other way round. If you live in obscure corners of the internet, dont be surprised that the whole alt-narrative turns out to be just another manipulation.

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