PaddockLad
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Terry's defence taking him through insults he has faced about mum. "The Liverpool fans made up a song that my mum loved Scouse cock"
Carragher's old man is alleged to have shagged her whilst away at a WC or Euro's
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Bit strong Alex!
ex lovers I take it?
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I don't think that the law in particular is the problem here, it's more to do with the fact that this whole thing came about because one person, who only saw it on TV, decided that it was his moral obligation to report it to the police and set the whole thing in motion.
The common sense approach would be to ask Ferdinand if he wanted it to go to court and since he claims that he didn't the case should've been dropped.
Yeah, but thats down to the CPS deciding whether theres enough evidence to make a case. There plainly is according to them, ot theyre getting off on the publicity. As I say, if found to have comitted the act he'd have been sacked by any other corporate company. That would have been enough, no need to bring the law into it. And its only a law because of politicians' agendas.
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So there should be nothing illegal about a gang of white skinheads racially abusing a 10 year old black kid on his way home from school?
The law wasn't designed to protect millionaire footballers but it has to apply in all cases, we can't decide who should be protected by it and who shouldn't.
i'm not saying there shouldnt be legislation against it, I'm saying this particular piece of legislation is just plain bad law. In a case such as you've highlighted I think there are other public order offences that would cover it.
I think the law was introduced by the PC brigade to prove a point and so they can put people into little boxes with labels on, which is what they like to do. That is why some people find it strange it got to court in the first place. Employment law couldve been used in this case, talk like Terry is alleged to have to anybody from a different company in firms time and you're looking at the tin tack. But of course football's "different". Still doesnt detract from the law being shite though.
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That he called Ferdinand a black cunt. That's it. It's not a case to establish if he's racist. Just that he used racist language.
Agreed. But the debate has been on here "is this really a criminal offence?" and thats where the grey area is, not the ins and outs of the case. The law is wrong iyam. You cant legislate against someone calling someone else a name, however offensive. Its bollocks.
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That's a bit like saying I'm not a shoplifter and never have been. But I just stole this kettle in a moment of weakness. But let me off cos I'm honestly not a shoplifter and won't do it again.
The law can't be subjective, it's black and white for a reason. Solicitors try to exploit grey areas but what's wrong for one man is wrong for another, regardless of his history or background
Ok, so what is proved if John Terry is convicted of the charge he's up for?
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Never heard anyone over there say 'yon' but I've heard 'och away' as in 'you're joking' or 'never in the world' or 'yer man' many, many times. Maybe more from the older generation, most of the older relatives I had have now passed on and they always spoke like that.
theres folk my age I know use "ower thonder" to mean "over there", or "thonder its" for "its over there"....a lot of thats dying out though. The kids on the Scottish side sound like theyre from Edinburgh nowadays, coming out with "Aye, ah pure went tae the pub eeehh?" sort of bollocks. When I was at school it was the same words on both sides of the border spoke with diifferent accents, but the shared "language" of the border seems to be sadly dying out, and it was a lot closer to Geordie than how they talk in Glasgow for instance.
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It all subjective though unfortunately. We will never know exactly what went through Terrys head when he said it so we have no choice to treat the 2 types of characters to the same punishment. Whether it's an EDL member who gets arrested for saying it or a business man who loses his rag in the street. The law doesn't distinguish between the 2
But thats where "the law is an ass"
As has been said, can call someone a racially derogative name and not be a foaming-mouth, card carrying nazi. I bet theres enough black players he's played with and been mates with that would back him up in his claim that he's not a racist. The actual offence he's been charged with either is or isn't a criminal offence, depending on your point of view. Thing is it is now law. And its a very poor one iyam, New Labour PC brigade shite. It doesn't really help end anything. It just aids those with an agenda in continuing to poke the finger at people and putting them in a box marked "racist" when the truth is a lot more complex.
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Sounds like he's not required by Rodgers anyway...theyve been linked with Borini at Roma...played for him at Swansea on loan from Chelsea.
Don't know if Pardew would want him....Baggio is right I think about him fitting into the sort of 4-3-3 that we tried to play at times last season, which would appear to be his trouble at Liverpool with Rodgers too. Basically he was born 20 years too late
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I've been pulled up for using "netty" more than once....wiki has this to say...v interesting, for me and Jaw D anyway...
The Geordie word netty,[61] meaning a toilet and place of need and necessity for relief[61][62][63] or bathroom,[61][62][63] has an uncertain origin,[64] though some have theorised that it may come from slang used by Roman soldiers on Hadrian's Wall,[65] which may have later become gabinetti in the Romanic Italian language[65] (such as in the Westoe Netty, the subject of a famous painting from Bob Olley[65][66]). However gabbinetto is the Modern Italian diminutive of gabbia, which actually derives from the Latin cavea ("hollow", "cavity", "enclosure"), the root of the loanwords that became the Modern English cave,[1] cage,[2] and gaol.[3] Thus, another explanation would be that it comes from a Modern Romanic Italian form of the word gabinetti,[64] though only a relatively small number of Italians have migrated to the North of England, mostly during the 19th century.[67]
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No, you're absoloutely correct. But seeing as i'm on board Big Mike's happy bus there will be not one iota of criticism or complaint about the business conducted (or indeed not conducted) in this transfer window passing from these fingertips
Still nearly 2 months left of the window to be honest, early deals last year are irrelelvent to whats happening this year, and other clubs probably view us a bit differently after our relative success last season. Christ knows whats going on, our main targets are all out in the open it would appear (unless Luuk de Jong is a fuckin huge smokescreen for a better,cheaper player) so something will happen when it happens.
But there are posters who have regularly said they are completly relaxed with us not tying up deals if the deal isnt right for NUFC, so am not expecting to hear any complaints from them, should we not bring in a fullback or centre half etc.And I notice the first murmurings of concern have arisen in this thread. Tbh, its not the end of the world anyway if we don't bring in what and who people beleive we need. All is good on the happy bus...
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I'm quite nonplussed about all the media/SFA/rangers led nonsense about 'financial armaggeddon' and 'meltdown' - on the face of it my club (in SFL1) would be denied just £60k payment so would cut its' cloth to suit as many clubs already have - we already have a wage structure in the region of just £300-600 per week and have lived within our means since we nearly went t*ts up in '97 (round about the same time as NUFC). For instance last year our club needed to raise £100k and did so within a few weeks via additional sponsorship so the £60k figure certainly won't be a ballbuster. It might though have a bigger effect on SFL3 clubs with crumbling infrastructure and unmanageable debts - the kind of debts that could be wiped out if the blue filth spend a year in their division and they get a few home games in against them.
With other wee diddy teams like us who've lived within our means for decades, the prospect of having one team circumvent the rules, fail to pay tax and NI, rack up £135m of losses and walk out of it with a debt free club parachuted into SFL1 (making our league a bit of a pointless season) is simply not acceptable.
Spot on, apart from things going tits up for us as well around 97...we finished 2nd in the league that year
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Finanacially, far better off with newco Rangers in the first division and able to gain promotion next season.
For the integrity of the football authorities in Scotalnd and also morally, the newco shouldnt be playing in any league next season. 134million pounds worth of cheating over a quarter of a century just written off? Makes Scottish football as a competition completley redundant, rather than just a "joke" as it has been for the last decade or more.
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It does seem strange thats true. Either the CPS have a hard on for the publicity this will generate or theyre pretty sure whatever evidence they have will stand up in court...I'm assuming thats where the lip reader comes in?
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Wheres the mother in law from Fist?...we used to say "as scarce as hens teeth"....
If I was at my folks for more than 2 days the Kielder one may creep back into my vocabulary...."tomorrow morning" is often expressed as "the morn's morn'" by us hillbilly folk.
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Our old friend "Sportsmail reporter" reckons Harps is off to Brum as well...
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rightly or wrongly, using racial insults is against the law. So its a fair cop in my book, if me or you had done the same and someone complained to the police it would be the same.
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There is a doco airing here in a few days about the Carl Lewis/Ben Johnson doping scandal. Should be a good watch.
Wasnt every finalist in the 1988 Olympic 100m done for doping at one point in their career or other....it came out that Carl Lewis failed a dope test 2 or 3 times in the lead up to the games, it only came out a couple of years back. Linford was caught after he retired. No wonder Dwayne Chambers was tempted. Only way to compete. But cheating like that kept another clean athlete out of the squad so he shouldnt be anywhere near the present squad. 10.25 this season. Joke.
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The US is good and, in a strange twist of fate, bad at the same time. If you were caught up in the imperial post-war punch ups over ideology and influence, then you probably think bad. If you had a dishwasher and A/C in your car in 1955, you probably think good. Thems the breaks.
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Or the Marshall Plan.
Think that was paid off in 2007, could be wrong. It was a mixture of grants and loans I think. Dont know if it included the bill for very many of the cargo ships used in the Atlantic convoys that the yanks knocked up for us and without which it wouldve been impossible to stand alone for 2 years before they officially joined the punch up.
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Why the fuck Is he advertising the city kit? He was in a good band 15 years ago! Lets get Brian Johnson pictured giving Cisse a cuddle for ours. He's sold about 5 times as many records for one
Actually, I'd like to see that...one for the wall iyam
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It's not, I very rarely watch tennis. If I was a tennis fan and paid money to see him it would bother me though. Part of being a pro sportsman in todays age is the media aspect. The interviews, the paparazzi, the autographs.
If Pardew went on like Dalglish does in interviews we would all have something to say about it. How is this different?
Why is that the case?...to keep the majority of the useless bastards in a job they do tend to bandy that around themsleves. We want sports coverage, thats for sure. But the media have made increasing demands on atheletes/sportspeople over the years and then complain when some of them get a bit arsey.
Dalglish treated the press like shite when he was manager here. I thought it was funny tbh. We all form our strongest opinions about managers as a result of what happens on the pitch, not in the press conference after wards. Well I do anyway. Dalglish was crap on and off the pitch. Taking a side from 2nd to 14th then starting the next season poorly got him the sack, not whether he was nice to the press.
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Murray plays Tennis professionally. He earns the money he does because of all the money put into tennis by ticket sales and TV coverage. It's a spectator sport and he is revered by the majority of the British public. It wouldn't kill him to pretend he's glad of the support every now and again the whingy cunt. He made £575k yesterday for losing
Why? why is it important to you?
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Did you know that Nadal has the same doctor as Lance Armstrong, Ivano Basso and countless other dopers of cycling? Did you know that doctor Michele Ferrari is due to appear in court and if convicted Nadal could well go down too? Apparently its one reason why he was "beaten" at this years Wimbledon?
Your comment re cycling is one of ignorance in a way Gemmill and typical of someone who doesnt know the sport. Simialr to my attitude of Tennis I suppose.
There was one of the Bracelona players last year on an illegal steriod, what happend to him? Nothing, why? Because its football and corrupt, that player was Xavi. Messi, was on growth hormone for several years after he turned pro, another illegal drug in football. LOADS Of other sports, mostly football and rugby use doping yet they sweep it under the carpet.
Lance Armstrong is a doper?...whod have thunk it?..Rumours around Barca for years, and it looks like Abidal's kidneys have finally packed up. Murray and Nadal are the same age, yet Nadal looked like Lou Ferringo at 19 and Murray looked like Walter the Softie from the Beano...
Chris Moyles quite Radio 1 breakfast show
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Hes playing Herod in ALW's latest production of "Supermac Jesus Christ Superstar"....incredibly, this is actually true
Radio one changed forever in the 90s, aiming for the 16-24 year olds. Moyes was part of that, so now he's basically DLT with a better PR team. He's always been, without exception, fuckin dreadful. Don't care how old you are, at any stage of his radio career you care to mention he's been unlistenable. Didn't like football, joined radio one, discovered football was popular with his audience, decided he was a Leeds Utd fan, culminating in that other cunt Peter Ridsdale being interviewed live on Radio One and singing "Leeds United Calypso" live on air. What a pair of fuckin cockmonkeys.