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How does that fit with his big society ethos which seeks a reduced role for government? Do you think he wants to spend the same money on less things (not exactly a bad idea) or perhaps he actually wants more scope in the future for tax cuts? Not realising a Tory's entire purpose is lower tax for the rich is what's really beyond stupid. You missed my use of the word HAVING TO

I would have thought that raising PAYE by a mere 0.1% would easily have covered this being extended, Id happily pay that extra tiny bit more to see this continue. Handing out Child Benefit is one thing but that doesnt even help those kids most at risk, Id rather see them halve CB and give all school kids free breakfasts, milk and dinners. Ensure that every kid in the country gets a good start to the day, some additional calcium etc from the milk and a hot meal daily. That way you'll ensure that those most at risk ie the really poor or those with parents who would rather spend the CB on beer, tabs or drugs at least eat. It would also help the school system in giving more reason for these kids to actually attend school. Totally agree, can you not hack Camerons computer and set this as his wallpaper.

Green Zone No doubting a quality film. Bourne action meets political conspiracy. Just a fucking shame that you come away from it thinking lying fucking scumbag politicians.....And they get away with it. How can they lie to us, go to war and get away with it. In all the years of intelligence gathering and inspections following Gulf War 1, they fucking well must have known there was nothing there. How Blair sleeps at night is beyond me.

Read again what I stated as fact. Not that CB will be scrapped, that it was reported as being an option. "Both of which are under discussion to be scrapped". Pretty sure that the only thing that has been ringfenced is the 'front line' of the NHS and, suprisingly, some overseas aid projects, so it is being considered, isn't it? At the very least I would expect it to stop being index-linked and reduced in real terms. If Cameron is family orientated, why is he scrapping this project without even considering its conclusion? He's not scrapping it "Education Secretary Michael Gove has said the existing pilot schemes would continue, "so as to assess better the case for increasing eligibility in the future". Did you actually read it or just jump on the headline? Giving impoverished children nutritious food is surely one of the best things you could do to help them, and what's more, it directs the money to exactly where it's needed, so gives you 'bang for your buck'. No, that sounds exactly like a thing an 'old school tory' would do to me. What a ridiculous notion to think being 'family orientated' means he cares about the welfare of all children. Thatcher believed in family, she just had a rather large problem with society. Honestly, lose the bias man Renton, its bending your view of the world.

Here it is in single sentences again.... Labour government announced it would change the system to give free school meals to more people on low incomes. It would have affected families with a household income below £16,190. Children whose parents are on income support or jobseekers' allowance will continue to be eligible for the free meals. The scheme, due to start this September, could have given free meals to 500,000 more families So half a million families, just in those areas, that don't qualify for IS or JSA, but have incomes below £16,190 would have benefited from free school meals. Where do you get the impression my brothers income must be higher than that? No he's not in a trial area...but once a trial works out the scope increases. Furthermore, it's not even about my brother is it. I just used him as an example of this being a bit more serious than wummery as you'd suggested. It affects real people in his financial situation. You said it was going to cost your brother a bomb. It was only a trial. He doesnt live in a trial area. Trials do not always get rolled out, thats why they are trials. I have nothing against any schemes like this, WHEN the country can afford it. There are thousands of very worthy ideas about helping the less well off, but if we havent got the money, we havent got the money. As for slagging the Tories off for not EXTENDING this trial, its not their fault the country is so in debt and overspent. Had Labour reduced the debt or not overspent so much in their 13 years then the new Government would be able to increase spending (as previous Tory governments) rather than have to cut expenditure. Anyone who thinks Cameron wants to be in the position of HAVING to cut public spending is stupid, beyond belief.

Both of which are under discussion to be scrapped. Link? Radio 5 discussion this morning. Of course they're under discussion to be scrapped - everything is on the line and we know where this Party traditionally likes to hit - the vulnerable. A bollox statement them really Not really, there's a good chance Child Benefit will go. Here's a link for you as an example, it will be a very tempting target for Osbourne. Fucking Hell man Eh? I told you they were discussing it on the radio as an option this morning. I gave you a link because that's what you asked for - just after a Google like you normally do. It does though have some interesting figures which are probably correct, please enlighten me if they're wrong. It's a tempting option for a Conservative party, wouldn't you agree? Yes or no will do. no you do know this is a prime minister who has moved back the time of cabinet meetings so he can take his kids to school. Who is also a multimillionaire. No point speculating I guess, we'll just have to wait and see. One last thing though, they were saying as well on the radio this morning (sorry, no link) that social security will be heavily hit, which makes sense if Healthcare is ringfenced, so a move like this really wouldn't surprise me. So why did you Infact you didn't even speculate, you typed it as fact. The point about the school run is that this is a very family orientated man who I think will be a lot different to your old school Tory. It's going to fun on here when the cuts start. Labour wouldn't this and that and nothing.

Both of which are under discussion to be scrapped. Link? Radio 5 discussion this morning. Of course they're under discussion to be scrapped - everything is on the line and we know where this Party traditionally likes to hit - the vulnerable. A bollox statement them really Not really, there's a good chance Child Benefit will go. Here's a link for you as an example, it will be a very tempting target for Osbourne. Fucking Hell man Eh? I told you they were discussing it on the radio as an option this morning. I gave you a link because that's what you asked for - just after a Google like you normally do. It does though have some interesting figures which are probably correct, please enlighten me if they're wrong. It's a tempting option for a Conservative party, wouldn't you agree? Yes or no will do. no you do know this is a prime minister who has moved back the time of cabinet meetings so he can take his kids to school.

Both of which are under discussion to be scrapped. Link? Radio 5 discussion this morning. Of course they're under discussion to be scrapped - everything is on the line and we know where this Party traditionally likes to hit - the vulnerable. A bollox statement them really Not really, there's a good chance Child Benefit will go. Here's a link for you as an example, it will be a very tempting target for Osbourne. Fucking Hell man

Both of which are under discussion to be scrapped. Link? Radio 5 discussion this morning. Of course they're under discussion to be scrapped - everything is on the line and we know where this Party traditionally likes to hit - the vulnerable. A bollox statement them really

Both of which are under discussion to be scrapped. Link?

Lol'ing at all the Labourites who moaned like fuck about Cameron screwing the North East over. One of his first decisions is securing a 20 million grant for Nissan. Do the hordes come on saying they were wrong and welcoming the decision, do they fuck. A little non story about a 3 borough milk trial and they're up in arms.... No wonder the country fucked.

Absolutely the wrong thing to do. That money could hardly be better directed. Disgusting. Anyone remember what school dinners were like under Thatcher? Wummery at its best Gentlemen, well done Not wummery at all. Certainly not on my part. My brother is a low income, stay at home, single father of an under five year old without IS or JSA. This is going to cost him a bomb. Does he not fit into this bit then? Read my post again..... "Without IS or JSA" So he must be over £16,400 which while not great, is certainly not low by a lot of peoples standards, particularly when adding on child benefits, tax credits etc. Does he actually live in one of the three trials areas either?

Absolutely the wrong thing to do. That money could hardly be better directed. Disgusting. Anyone remember what school dinners were like under Thatcher? Wummery at its best Gentlemen, well done Not wummery at all. Certainly not on my part. My brother is a low income, stay at home, single father of an under five year old without IS or JSA. This is going to cost him a bomb. Does he not fit into this bit then? You really fucking tuck yourself in at times like. Thick as pigs' shit Dont see how, care to explain?

Absolutely the wrong thing to do. That money could hardly be better directed. Disgusting. Anyone remember what school dinners were like under Thatcher? School dinners were delicious under Thatcher You were probably still in nappies I bet No. They basically stopped doing them at my school in the 1980s. That must have been your local labour run education authority.

Absolutely the wrong thing to do. That money could hardly be better directed. Disgusting. Anyone remember what school dinners were like under Thatcher? Wummery at its best Gentlemen, well done Not wummery at all. Certainly not on my part. My brother is a low income, stay at home, single father of an under five year old without IS or JSA. This is going to cost him a bomb. Well unlike your headline...... The story is actually about them not rolling out a trial project into a bigger trial project It's about them cancelling the project basically. I literally couldn't think of a better use of public money. Theres no money left Dont you get it Liam byrne did

Five live was also told today that Labour ministers carried out a "scorched earth" policy of spending as much as they could before the election. It got so bad that civil servants asked ministers to put their orders in writing after voicing concerns about certain spending decisions. Quite shameful really Those two actions contradict each other though. The 'scorched earth' policy suggests they knew they couldn't win while the promises in marginal constituencies suggests they'd do anything to win. Which is it? You'll have to ask Mandelson

Absolutely the wrong thing to do. That money could hardly be better directed. Disgusting. Anyone remember what school dinners were like under Thatcher? Wummery at its best Gentlemen, well done Not wummery at all. Certainly not on my part. My brother is a low income, stay at home, single father of an under five year old without IS or JSA. This is going to cost him a bomb. Does he not fit into this bit then?

Absolutely the wrong thing to do. That money could hardly be better directed. Disgusting. Anyone remember what school dinners were like under Thatcher? School dinners were delicious under Thatcher You were probably still in nappies I bet

Absolutely the wrong thing to do. That money could hardly be better directed. Disgusting. Anyone remember what school dinners were like under Thatcher? Wummery at its best Gentlemen, well done Not wummery at all. Certainly not on my part. My brother is a low income, stay at home, single father of an under five year old without IS or JSA. This is going to cost him a bomb. Well unlike your headline...... The story is actually about them not rolling out a trial project into a bigger trial project

Labour tried to bribe electorate At PMQ's today while talking to Bridget, David Cameron had this to say...... Five live was also told today that Labour ministers carried out a "scorched earth" policy of spending as much as they could before the election. It got so bad that civil servants asked ministers to put their orders in writing after voicing concerns about certain spending decisions. Quite shameful really

Absolutely the wrong thing to do. That money could hardly be better directed. Disgusting. Anyone remember what school dinners were like under Thatcher? Wummery at its best Gentlemen, well done

You actually wouldn't believe how complex that whole process is. When I was making ads I used to be constantly down London at the advertising standard authority trying to get them to let us remove some of the stupid wording they would insist on. As this wording has to stay on screen for a regulated number of seconds it made life very complex. Basically a bunch of pen pushers with rulers and red tape. At least in your current job you can bullshit the public with complete impunity.

Of course Joe Public himself has to shoulder some blame for revelling in the credit provided by that deregulation. As I've said before if Brown had at any time said "I'm going to massively limit personal credit and lending" he would have been crucified. I think I've responded to this a few times and said it's baloney. If the government said loan companies could and should be allowed to shotgun your ankles off for defaulting then people who are desparate enough will go ahead and take out that loan. The governments role is to protect those idiotic enough to take out a loan with an APR of 2600% or mortgages worth 150% of the property value.....as well as the intelligent ones like you who know not to take out those loans but suffer the consequences of those that do. That's not limiting lending, it's limiting the return from a loan that's likely to default....and for that he wouldn't have been crucified, because it was already the approach. Spot on.

Of course Joe Public himself has to shoulder some blame for revelling in the credit provided by that deregulation. As I've said before if Brown had at any time said "I'm going to massively limit personal credit and lending" he would have been crucified. Thats the difference between strong rulers and weak ones. I was talking to one of my daughters about this sort of thing recently and explained that less than 20 years ago, if I went overdrawn (a common occurence), my presence was requested at the bank for a very tough talking too, an explaination and a promise to bank more responsibly. A loan was not easy to get. Compare that with two years ago when I could happily sit at my computer and get loans of upto 30,000 with 2 minutes typing. No checks, nothing. I hope controls are brought in so that consumer credit does become a lot harder to get, permanently.