MrBass

If you can accept performances like Ameobi demonstrated last night then you have no ambition or expectation for this club to be anything other than lower table mediocrity. I don't accept his performance last night - nor do I accept the performance of most of the other players. I take it you do? You patronising prick, of course I don't, we were shit last night, I know it, you know it, from front to back we were not good enough, but Ameobi was in a different league of shitness, and not for the first time, perhaps when you Shola sympathisers have finished sucking each others dicks you'll realise the twat isn't good enough. Thanks, a tongue in cheek lighthearted comment leads to insults. Guess that's this the lovely nature of this forum for you. I've never said anything offensive here. Certainly not to you, no more than the silly comments I;m sure you've said to everyone. Thats it, attempt to take the moral high-ground, if you can't recognise a player that is utterly out of his depth, and undeserving of a starting place in ANY premiership team, then I seriously question your judgement. They were all shit last night, I can't argue against that, but Shola took the piss, surely you or any can't disagree ? The reason why I'm attempting to take the moral high-ground is because you're throwing about completely unnecessary insults that you'd have heard at school. I suggest you calm down a bit because I can't seriously be winding you up that much. Frankly I recognised ages ago Shola shouldn't be starting and that's not his fault he was picked to start. My point isn't that hard to grasp - if he were given some time to perform he would end up scoring goals like he did before the operation, and when he's scoring no one would hold his mistakes against him nearly as much. Sadly he hasn't had the chance to, but he still gets abused as always. If the whole team is playing crap, Shola shouldn't be forced to play far better than the rest of the team just to receive an equal amount of criticism. It's simple really. Some people think I'm his biggest fan and then start insulting me just because I stand up for him. But why do you stand up for him? Yes you acknowledge that he shouldn't be starting and quite rightly pointed out that he wasn't his fault he did. Surely, anyone with a modicum of intelligence would look at the players they're competing with to get in the side and, if they're fortunate to be picked, grasp the opportunity with both hands to try and hold onto that place in the starting 11? Ameobi, whether not fully match fit or not, couldn't even be arsed. That just about sums him up for me.

I just can't accept this, because it isn't always the same shit for me. Granted, I've been frustrated with him more than not, but the form he has showed at times makes me believe that with a clean bill of health he can push on and be a useful squad member. Criticising him after his first start in ages for a performance that for me was neither dreadful nor great just seems to me unjust. I used to say that, I was wrong. You're insistence that Ameobi did no worse than any top flight attacker would have done is just ridiculous. He won nothing don't say he did I saw the game he didn't. He did no running at all none zilch zip rien absolutely zero. He stood offside for 2 thats right 2 free kicks. And that is stood didnt wander or mistakenly tread offside he stood quite obviously offside completely ruining 2 chances. He led with his elbows he jumped a maximum of 2 inches off the ground when he managed to leave the ground. Now nobody was good against Derby and I have not let enyone off with the muck spreading. But for you to say Shola deserves none is quite possibly the stupidest thing I have read on here. And that is up against some pretty tough competition. Thread closed.

I've seen all our games this season... and that is simply not true. Viduka was poor against Boro, but good against Wigan. As for being offside and giving away free kicks, you're simply talking crap. You've not really helped your case in proving he isn't a scapegoat by not explaining why all the other players didn't get abuse from you - certainly not in the same vain as Ameobi. He wasn't even the worst player on the pitch. Then again he's a brainless idiot, so should be shot. The thing that really boiled my piss with Ameobi yesterday was twice we had a freekick and he stood in an offside position before the kick was even taken. You can understand if he stands back then runs onside just before the ball is kicked, but to just fucking stand there... and TWICE ffs. This is supposedly a professional fucking footballer for crying out loud! If he'd just ambled around up front as usual and was pretty much anonymous then I wouldn't have singled him out. But he didn't, he fucked up two free kicks and a couple of the rare attacks we had.

Probably confused as to why there were black stripes on his white shirt tbh

Do we know why Owen was taken off yet?

No, but we lost to a team that were!

I blame Setanta, we were god awful against Villa and not that great against Middlesbrough. Give our games back to Sky!! Edit: ...and why the fuck do we have adverts, some people are paying £9.99 a month for this!

And thats what fucks me off the most. Ditto. Playing for 4th spot and we couldn't have put on a worse performance. Overpaid bunch of fuckwits... and that includes the overweight bastard in charge. Big Sam OUT! You may chuckle, but it's Aladyce who picked Ameobi ahead of Martins, and one of the most defensive sides we could have put out against a team who hadn't even won a fucking game before tonight. To think that Liverpool put 6 past them. *Shudders*

Note to Harper Don't launch it upfield when there's Ameobi up there, as the useless twat can't head for shite!

And thats what fucks me off the most. Ditto. Playing for 4th spot and we couldn't have put on a worse performance. Overpaid bunch of fuckwits... and that includes the overweight bastard in charge.

Only if you look at them with contempt when they ask what you've been doing.

BALLS!

Free kick in a good area, now come on.....

We're making Derby look world class ffs!

Oooh one of our creative players goes off for a workhorse.

Big man, little man would work if the big man wasn't a complete inept twat.

Well if we stick with that lot out there, then we might aswell go home now. Come Fatboy, sort it fucking out!

If you're going to say that, you might as well say that to everyone. They've all been crap - Ameobi certainly no worse than Owen. should still be replaced by Martins however. Eh? Ameobi's done absolutely fuck all apart from stand offside TWICE when we've had a freekick, and run around like a headless chicken tugging the odd shirt here and there. He's being used so we can have the "big man, little man" combo. Unfortunately the "big man" doesn't realise it's his job to try and head the fucking ball without giving away needless freekicks. ...and this isn't a "let's use Ameobi as a scapegoat" post. He's absolutely fucking useless and all the while he's in our squad we've got no hope of achieving anything. That said, the rest of the squad hasn't been much cop either and I reckon Shay would have saved Millers shot.

That's a bit of an understatement. How the fcuk can he get on the team sheet ahead of Martins? The only thing he does consistantly well is break up our attacking moves by constant fouls, or ruin set pieces by standing in a fucking offside position!!

No I don't they did. I vaguelly recall someone saying that the get out clause reduces each year, so next year it'll be £4.5m or something... I think.

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