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I'd would love it, love it if we qualified for the Champions league Thats not really the point I am making. We are talking about glory, things that make you a big club and thats trophies. In 20 years time our tin pot cup triumph will count on our honours list. Qualifying for some competition will mean nothing. This will sound controversial but give me a league cup over CL qualification any day of the week. Both please Get off the fence and pick one. Considering our recent history, i.e. 2 league cups in 10 years. I'd take champions league qualification everytime You're not Spurs. Ok. I have gone on to the spurs forum I regularly use and started a poll. What would you rather next season? A1 Qualify for the champions league A2 Win the league cup 3 votes already... i dont need to tell you which for http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/forums/ShowTh...D=641116#641116

I'd would love it, love it if we qualified for the Champions league Thats not really the point I am making. We are talking about glory, things that make you a big club and thats trophies. In 20 years time our tin pot cup triumph will count on our honours list. Qualifying for some competition will mean nothing. This will sound controversial but give me a league cup over CL qualification any day of the week. Both please Get off the fence and pick one. Considering our recent history, i.e. 2 league cups in 10 years. I'd take champions league qualification everytime

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I'd would love it, love it if we qualified for the Champions league Thats not really the point I am making. We are talking about glory, things that make you a big club and thats trophies. In 20 years time our tin pot cup triumph will count on our honours list. Qualifying for some competition will mean nothing. This will sound controversial but give me a league cup over CL qualification any day of the week. Both please

Seeing as it was one of English footballs great battles they'll be talking about it for sure. Especially more than what your lot were up to. Great capitulations more like

I'd would love it, love it if we qualified for the Champions league

Agreed... Stevie you're arguing for the sake of arguing tbh - you'd be like a dog with 2 cocks if we won the league cup, just like the rest of us. Oh and has everyone noticed how Danny "I'm not here to be argumentative" B has made absolutely no response to those who claimed the clubs are equal in size and stature? Nope... he's decided to focus in on Stevie who he knows will argue til he's blue in the face. You're both as bad as each other tbh and it's as tedious as fuck! To be honest I do think we are of similar stature but our trophies swing it for us. Stubborn cunt aren't you? Are you sure you're not Stevie's alter ego? You've won the FA Cup 2 more times than us, we've won the league 2 more times than you.... We're equal. Saying you're bigger than us because you've won more league cups etc. is akin to suggesting Stevie's got a bigger cock because he hasn't been cirmcumcised whilst you have Winning the league is much better and far more difficult to achieve than winning the FA Cup but yes the clubs are certainly of similar stature overall. You haven't wont the league since 1926/27 and previous to that it was 1904/05, 1906/07 and 1908/09. Football was still in its formatives when teams would beat eachother 18 - 0 and got voted in and out of the league. It was farcical compared to todays game. Spurs were the first in the modern era to win the double, now that was a feat worthy of a massive club.

Agreed... Stevie you're arguing for the sake of arguing tbh - you'd be like a dog with 2 cocks if we won the league cup, just like the rest of us. Oh and has everyone noticed how Danny "I'm not here to be argumentative" B has made absolutely no response to those who claimed the clubs are equal in size and stature? Nope... he's decided to focus in on Stevie who he knows will argue til he's blue in the face. You're both as bad as each other tbh and it's as tedious as fuck! To be honest I do think we are of similar stature but our trophies swing it for us. What about their Premiership title challenges and runs in the champions league? It evens itself out. im sounding like a toon fan

You know one thing I noticed at SJP when they won against boro... they didn't start singing " we are staying up" OMEN

Total opinion, no factual information at all

I have found definative proof of the fanbase size

I remember a Martin Jol quote that said we have a million fans in England but I cant back it up with a million signitures or something

For a club that is as big as Newcastle thats having as big a silverware drought as they are, Stevie here would refuse a League cup trophy and title.

You total n0b. Who are bigger Sunderland or Tottenham Hotspur? I think Sunderland and I do. You're too easy Stevie. It is us though, more trophies, bigger fan base, more money, better team. By almost every measure its us. Bigger fanbase, us by at the very least 3:1, more money over the last 15 years us in 13 of those years again us, better team, we're both shite, Wigan are better than us and they're not bigger than us neither, more trophies, what when you include league cups, champions of the country TWICE (?) media wise we dwarf you, public interest wise, dwarf you, it's not even a semblance of an argument. You're more similar to Charlton than Newcastle United. We have a higher all time average attendance than you and you have had a 50K stadium for quite a few years. We have an estimated worldwide fan base of 4mil +. The only reason you get media coverage is because you are such a joke club. Its like a naughty kid who will do anything for attention. If a drunken Ledley king can make the front page of the red tops your circus will have no bother. It makes me laugh when you lot say if it was other clubs they wouldnt make the front page. Its just not true. If Wigan lurched between disasters like you lot they would be getting more media attention. We HAVE won more trophies. We HAVE won them more recently, every measure (including the one at NUFC.com) we have more fans. You are right about there being no contest though. You have a higher all time average because you didn't play league football till 1908, you utter tool. The likes of ourselves Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool were playing at least 16 years getting gates of between 1 and 10,000 over that period, while most stadiums were up to 40,000 by 1910. If they were calculated 1908-now rather than 1892-now, we'd be nearer 40,000 than the 31,000 we're at now. I've explained that to you before. You have a worldwide fanbase of 4m, firstly no you don't, secondly if you do due to our mid 90's exploits ours will be at least double that, and the only fanbase that concerns me is in this country and it will easily be 3:1 in our favour. The domestic trophies thing is 10 each, I don't count league Cups, neither do the fans of any big club, and we've been champions of our country four times, while you have 3 european trophies to our 1. Very even on that score, yet EVERYONE to a man says Newcastle are the biggest underachievers in world football, while Spurs are a succesful club, now if you can't see what that's telling you, you might as well top yourself. You've won more trophies recently yes, but you're not a big club, never will be, you have a fraction of our fanbase, both match going and armchair. What bugs me about you is you know for a fact we are a much bigger club, with an immeasurable potential for growth, whereas the best you'll ever be is third biggest club in your city, which you probably aren't now even. You don't count the league cup, convenient then, that you haven't ever won it. I am sure if the Toon were in the Carling Cup final Stevie you would feel very differently. Give credit where credit is due

Bit like you then. Very good Alex, able to form an opinion of your own on the subject or are you still struggling with that part of your game? Form an opinion on what? My Dad's cock bigger than your dad's cock. I'll leave that to the experts, ta. I don't know how to compare Dads cocks Ask your sister. Uncalled for.

Bit like you then. Very good Alex, able to form an opinion of your own on the subject or are you still struggling with that part of your game? Form an opinion on what? My Dad's cock bigger than your dad's cock. I'll leave that to the experts, ta. I don't know how to compare Dads cocks

Honestly? I don't think there's anything in it hence the general vitriol between the fans of the two clubs... I do think they're both bigger than Sunderland however. If i'm being serious I think we are both massive clubs and equals. I wanted to see how people would react

Which is the bigger club? Newcastle United or Tottenham Hotspur? I think Tottenham

If those dirty south London bstards were in your position I would be Fulham all the way! I thought Arsenal were your rivals, it's hard to keep up... what with all your derbies. Its Arsenal hes talking about you mug. Arsenal's a Norf Lahndan team though innit? maybe he should take another run at his post then... not particularly clear now is it? We give them stick because they come from a place in South London called "Woolwich Arsenal" Hence the name Arsenal. Dirty wankers

If those dirty south London bstards were in your position I would be Fulham all the way!

"No husband has ever been shot while doing the dishes."

Good morning I don't want to get involved in you twos flirting. I've been hoping you'd get together On a side note, I want to finish 7th over Fulham, even if it were Arsenal I'd want Fulham to lose.

Sunderland haven't had a great season...

Title challenge next season?

So close