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I think thats the point though, I can post something that makes sense but based on the version of events I choose to believe. There are only a handful of people that know the full truth and they are all police. However, Im more willing to believe the official version for a number of reasons. 1. Numerous witnesses at the time said he was wearing a big heavy coat, I remember hearing an interview with a bloke who was on the train which was made literally minutes after the event, no time for him to be briefed or 'got at' just the words of a very shaken man. 2. I've been in too many tube stations to know that you cant get in without either a ticket or jumping the barrier. Are you saying that he went and bought a ticket while being chased? 3. Again, witnesses say they heard the police shouting, as said before, three men running with guns and not identifying themselves as police would be seen, there'd be panic and people would have been shouting this out afterwards to whoever would listen. 4. And the most important point...why? what reason would the police have to be trigger happy? they know what happens whenever they shoot someone, theres always an inquiry, always the truth comes out. At some stage the truth will come out, unfortunately even when it does and all the facts show they did everything right then people will just make out that they've fiddled it, glossed over the facts and are spinning the truth. Officialdom never wins in these cases, people will always choose to believe that the world is big brother and police are there to harass us and do their own thing. Thats not aimed at you personally Renton just a generalisation of certain elements of this country.

If you copy that pic and then open it in Photoshop and zoom in on the 8th floor you can actually see me standin on the balcony!!!

that looks like a braw wee place to live SM!

hmmmmm why dont I totally believe you there?

I feel a smear campaign coming on, the likes not seen since Mod Idol.

Do they have Internet forums in hell?

Well lets just hope she doesnt read this board and see you chattin wor lass (emmmm I mean Mags) up then.

You are soooo gonna burn in hell for that line!

Right thats it!!! Im not reading this thread anymore! cant afford a new keyboard

And the 6th!

BASTARD!!!!! 5th drink over keyboard moment

mags any response? im thinking that could possibly cheer me up 4450[/snapback]

Oh Daniels face with nature's own hand painted, Hast thou, the master mistress of my passion; My Daniels gentle heart, but not acquainted With shifting change, as is false women's fashion: An eye more bright than theirs, less false in rolling, Gilding the object whereupon it gazeth; Took me roughly up thine shittah!

Sorry...why the ferk are you doing it again?

I think you misread the question it was SHAG not beat to shit with a chair leg while shouting "Look whats in the air tonight ye bastid!"

Sitting in the house you got a spare ticket? 4399[/snapback] Yeah, but trust me on this one - you really wouldn't want to be there pet 4401[/snapback] hmmm the words Pyrenees, ice-cold beer, evening sunshine... yeah you're right, Id much rather be sitting here in the grey, misty rainy Gateshead

Sitting in the house you got a spare ticket?

and you dont think those two facts are linked?

Morrissey but only if he'd sing while I did. Every day is like Suuuuuuunndaayy

Is that an offer? 4365[/snapback] Hopefully......what you offering?

It was part of the law though, following 9/11 it was decided that the police needed a shoot to kill policy for suspected suicide bombers. Thats when Operation Kratos was put in place, officers were trained by the SAS. In all of these threads nobody has come along and said when it would be acceptable to carry out this action.. Is it after the suspect has shown hes armed? is it following reputable information? For me, with the facts that have been made available I believe that the officers were justified in what they did. They (the three officers) had been told he was suspected bomber, they followed and decided to challenge, he refused to stop and legged it into a tube station. Even in there, they were shouting at him to stop and he didnt. To me the decision had to be made, they were in contact with the control room who gave the order, at that point their training kicked in and they did what they had to do. I know that the answer back will be "but he didnt understand english" at that time the officers didnt know that, all they knew was Suspected terrorist, big coat, running from police, onto a train. My thoughts go out to the family of the dead man, the officers concerned but more importantly to the victims of the next tube bombing who see a man run towards them being chased by police then watch helpless as he detonates because the police were too scared of the repercussions. We're all experts when it comes to having hindsight and knowing the facts.

sitting here eating lasagne with a few bottles, just found out Minnie Drivers in Will and Grace tonight so hubbbaaah!

hmmmmm men ask, women tell........ ok then... What you doing tomorrow night?

A cheese bagel with smoked salmon and cream cheese in, theres now a bagel take away on Gosforth High Street which is canny, you can sit upstairs in big comfy settees with a bagel and coffee.