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EXCLUSIVE: ROEDER FACES HIS TORMENTORS Oliver Holt Chief Sports Writer ON Wednesday night, his team were beaten 5-1 by a team from a lower division. At home. Yesterday morning, he woke to find himself being accused of a cover-up in the continuing fall-out from allegations that Emre racially abused Joseph Yobo. And tomorrow, who should be heading north up the windswept motorways from east London but the fans who subjected him to volleys of sickening abuse at Upton Park last September. "Tumour boy," some of the West Ham fans yelled at Glenn Roeder when his Newcastle side played there four months ago. "Why didn't you die three years ago?" It shouldn't be happening to a bloke like Roeder who's one of the most decent men in football and, until Wednesday's debacle against Birmingham, has done such a fine job of steering Newcastle through their injury epidemic. But if Roeder was angered by the suggestion that he was being two-faced about Emre's case, he was filled only with weary sadness about the prospect of another encounter with the small group of neanderthals among West Ham's support. Many Hammers made him a scapegoat for the club's relegation from the Premiership in 2003, shortly after he had been admitted to hospital with a brain tumour. And even though they vented their fury at Roeder on September 17when he rose from the dugout to applaud the Newcastle fans, he feels no bitterness towards them. "I felt at the time and I still feel now it was better to be there that day at Upton Park and hear all that abuse than not to be around at all," he said yesterday. "I don't hold any grudges against West Ham. I don't want them to go down. I have never wished them any ill-will despite everything that has happened. "What hurt most of all is I am a kid from East London. My own turned on me. I didn't think they scratched the surface deep enough or showed enough intelligence to see the problems I had when I was at the club. "The guy with the face contorted with hate who was in some of the pictures that were printed after the Upton Park game was probably a grandad. "He might have been the one shouting 'tumour boy' or it might have been the one who was saying 'I wish you'd died three years ago'. "Well, I actually felt a little bit sad for him because he probably had children and he probably had grandchildren. What a bad example he set them. "I'm not steeling myself for more taunts like that when they come up here. The only thing I am steeling myself for is our fans' response to the midweek performance." Roeder knows this time the West Ham fans will be far, far away from the dugouts, high in the Leazes End but he is keen to put the treatment he received at Upton Park into context. "What happened was the product of the actions of a small number of people," Roeder said, "and I am not prepared to tar the whole West Ham crowd with the same brush as the dozen or so individuals who acted in the way they did. "I had a lot of emails and a few letters that arrived at the Newcastle training ground to say they were lifelong West Ham supporters and they could only hope I would accept their apologies. "I had letters from people that said they had been among the ones who hurled abuse at me and that by the time they got home they realised how wrong they had been and they were ashamed. "Often in life, it is the loud minority that get heard, not the silent majority and I am on the side of the silent majority. "The weekend's game is not about me against West Ham. It is about Newcastle and the three points we need, for different reasons, every bit as much as they do. We can never fully repay how badly we let our supporters down in the FA Cup against Birmingham. Nothing can obliterate that from the memory. "So the West Ham thing is in the past. I'll have plenty of other things to think about apart from the people who have made the long journey up here. I will never hold a grudge against West Ham. "My 100 per cent concentration is on the Black and Whites. I said to the players before the Manchester United game on New Year's Day that their hearts and my heart should bleed for our supporters. "They talk about football being a religion in Brazil and Argentina but no club in the world would still attract 52,000 people when it hasn't won a domestic trophy since 1955. "The greatest pleasure I get when we get three points is sending them home happy or down into the town to enjoy themselves. "I'll be thinking about them, not West Ham's fans." 'I don't hold any grudges against West Ham... I don't want them to go down'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STMHrljQeEY LUQUE video, playing for the reseves. deserves a chance

been getting it all day mate. especially from the west ham fans, who think theyll stuff us at the weekend

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http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=4...+closes+on+move West Ham have leapt to the front of the queue for Lucas Neill and are close to tying up a deal for the Australian star, skysports.com has learnt. Neill has also been in talks with both Liverpool and Newcastle, with long-time favourites Reds once looking likely to seal a move. Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez is keen to secure Neill, but he has thus far failed to offer a suitable package to the 28-year-old. However, following talks - Neill looks as if he could be heading back to London, where he starred for Millwall before joining Blackburn. Rovers have given up hope of persuading the defender to stay at the club and are now set to cash in on a player, who could depart for nothing in the summer. West Ham boss Alan Curbishley is looking to spend big this month as he tries to save The Hammers from relegation. Nigel Quashie and Luis Boa Morte have already signed and now he is obviously hoping that Neill will join the influx. While West Ham close on Neill's signature, it cannot be ruled out that both Liverpool and Newcastle may make last-ditch bids to grab him. Should West Ham finalise the transfer it is not thought Paul Konchesky will be heading in the opposite direction as part of this deal. Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez has suggested that The Reds would not make a renewed bid for Neill. "We are continuing working on these things but we will not wait. If a player wants to come to play for Liverpool, he must say yes quickly," said Benitez. "If he thinks about it for too long, maybe it’s a signal it’s time for us to look for other players. We have alternatives."

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oh dear what? the point is not about alan green, its about the bin dippers

Do you reckon? Pretty well managed career and was world champion for only 3 years (iirc), which is still some achievement obviously. Retired undefeated but his career doesn't really stand up to the likes of Louis' and Ali's (and others) imo. Edit: and those are just heavyweights. aye he was heavyweight champ 52-56, it was his determination that i like. "he was named fighter/boxer of the year by Ring Magazine three times. His three championship fights between 52-54 were named fights of the year by the same magazine. Rocky Marciano is the ONLY undefeated champion in ANY weight class in the history of gloved boxing. Considering how many champions there have been, somewhat over 300, that is quite a feat in itself. But he also brought to boxing the kind of dignity and courage that makes us admire the truly great athletes. Rocky Marciano stood out like a rose in a garbage dump. "Jimmy Cannon said of The Rock's character in a sport that all too often is tainted by corruption and greed."

5TH OCTOBER

Rocky Marciano best fighter ever

was this it?

some good stories here http://www.toonarmyusa.com/NUSC_rogues.htm

Birmingham boss Steve Bruce believes Obafemi Martins can be "a big superstar" for Newcastle and emulate Jackie Milburn, Malcolm MacDonald and Alan Shearer in becoming the next number nine hero at St James' Park. Geordie Bruce, whose side visit Newcastle for an FA Cup replay on Wednesday night, used to watch MacDonald at his peak as a youngster from the Gallowgate End. And he feels former Inter Milan striker Martins has the ingredients to eventually be revered in the same way as Milburn in the 1950s, MacDonald in the 1970s and Shearer for the past decade after an impressive start on Tyneside. Bruce said: "The number nine shirt at Newcastle has a huge history about it, the Milburns, MacDonalds, Shearers, etc, but Martins has all the ingredients to add to that and to make himself very popular with supporters. "He shoots with both feet with equal power and I don't think I've ever seen a ball hit so hard as his wonderful strike against Tottenham at the weekend. "He has got a bit of personality about him as well which people like. People don't realise how difficult it is to come into the Premier League just like English players in general don't do very well abroad. "But I think he will be a big hit and all my mates who are Newcastle fans are right behind him at the moment. He has all the ingredients to be a big superstar up there." Bruce can sympathise with Newcastle boss Glenn Roeder's current plight in terms of an injury-ravaged squad after going through the same nightmare last season when Blues were relegated from the Barclays Premiership. He said: "You have to hold your hands up to Glenn Roeder and say 'well done.' I know what I was like last year with the misery of losing many of your best players. "When you think of (Michael) Owen, (Damien) Duff, (Scott) Parker, Emre, (Stephen) Carr, and the list goes on and on. To be mid-table in the Premiership, still in the FA Cup and UEFA Cup, means they have done remarkably well. "You take your hats off to them and say 'well done' but it is a big cup tie and an opportunity for us as well and we want to progress in the FA Cup. "I shall be putting out our strongest possible side and I've always taken this competition seriously and treated it with the respect it deserves." Bruno N'Gotty is recalled for the first time in three months after being axed with injuries and suspension ruling out defenders Stephen Kelly and Rahdi Jaidi respectively. Nicklas Bendtner is sidelined with the ankle injury suffered via a divot in the pitch during the 2-2 draw with Newcastle at St Andrews but fellow strikers Cameron Jerome (Achilles) and DJ Campbell (neck) are both fit.

There's only one big club in London, and you see their ground as you're coming in to King's Cross from the train. you see both their grounds tbh

sure it was this one: 23.08.1986 0-2 Newcastle Liverpool St James Park 1st Division Thomas M; Anderson, Bailey; McCreery, Clarke, Roeder; Davies, Gascoigne (McDonald), Whitehurst, Beardsley, Wharton Hooper, Venison, Gillespie, Lawrenson, Whelan, Hansen, Steve McMahon, Johnston (Dalglish), Rush, Mølby, MacDonald i was 3 and had to go out half time because the noise was too loud

Alan or Andy?

Said on sky this morning that Lauren has turned down West Ham

your flag isn't the italy one

Probably Hearts or Hibs, (nearest teams) as i could never see myself supporting Sunderland

zzzzzzzzzzzzz...get over it, daft lad.

the title of the thread is a bit misleading

thats what it used to be like all the time

thats what tottenham get for their biggest games