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There's a suggestion he may go for Warren as VP which would be good in terms of her politics and also of him not lasting 4 or 8 years.

Well people like Susan Sarandon telling people to vote for the green candidate meant their vote was significant in a few states - maybe not enough to change the result but when you consider 77k votes in crucial states actually did decide the result then I wouldnt be surprised if dem non-voters were the deciding factor.

No, I'm just saying it's what most people would expect but you seemed surprised.

Well Biden's main platform is "return to normal" - that's well fucked now.

Corrupt son, lock him up, rinse and repeat.

I'd add that I agree it's going to get nasty - you have to hope we develop a vaccine because we'll have three hopes of getting it off the US, EU or anywhere else.

You've always been a bit overboard in your love of the EU, Rayvin - you can strongly believe we would have remained while accepting it was/is deeply flawed. Of course we should have stayed and campaigned for reform but I still think you're a bit idealistic.

When we went to psv the first time and we ended up in Amsterdam wandering around the red light district drinking we spotted Roy Hodgson in a flasher mac looking very furtive - either going to or coming from somewhere in a hurry.

The bastard in me does find it amusing that he's spent years of effort striving for this one job which might only end up lasting 6 months.

I dislike the bloke intensely but he's not in Ashley/Thatcher territory.

Tier 1: mackems Tier 2: Man Utd, Liverpool Tier 3: The grudges - Hereford, Stevenage, Forest, Villa, Sheff Wed Tier 4: All the bigger London teams including Palace. Tier 5: Everyone else.

I was knocked down for a week by something at the end of January, no cough but pretty bad. This was a couple of weeks after sitting next to Chinese lass who'd been home for Xmas - not to the infected province as she kept insisting

I think he's taken a blank slate approach by appointing a few with no real history. Surprised on Cooper though.

No mention was made of the reporters sent to out the Scottish doctor by spying on her.

Let us know if you get stoned by lockdown Nazis..

Yeah, I need to fix a dripping tap in my kitchen but I'm a bit wary of even doing that....i reckon I can take the minimal increase in water bill for a few months.

I'm an occasional cyclist and had intended to get out on my bike now that the gym/pool is shut - probably starting next weekend. I'm a little paranoid in that in 25 years cycling as an adult I've only had a couple of minor scrapes none involving anything beyond first aid so now sod's law is trying to make my mind think I'm bound to crash and end up in hospital despite the roads being quieter. I hope I get over it and I think it would be a shame if they went too far and banned exercise. As others have said I think it might be the final straw for some in deciding to say fuck it and rebel.

He said something about it being wrong to pay people to do nothing so I imagine his plan will be to not pay them or force them to work for benefits.

I agree - it's the NHS workers that are the only testing priority for me. However they seem to have oversold the antibody test as well which is the real way out of the lockdown.

Germany is very federal but the States are larger/more powerful than say Scotland or Wales.i also assume they must have a tiered hierarchy of health decision making that's stronger than here.

Okay, I accept I'm a bit wrong - but doesnt the trust system lead to areas bidding against each other for resources much like the states in the US? Genuine question.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the most decentralised and marketised, ultra-capitalist countries are the ones screwing it up - a plethora of NHS trusts with no central co-ordination and genuine offers of help from either chemical companies or university and other biological labs being dismissed in lieu of bitty, mismatched spending with no thought. As others have said it's either rank icompetence, unwillingness to take central charge or a covert adherence to the herd immunity "plan". I think now we'll be lucky to be out of lockdown by September.

I didn't see it but I read that he started off "seriously" as if someone had got through to him on the deaths but as time went on he reverted to his usual scatter gun bullshit.

Probably, but I think he had some good ideas and has continued to do so in this crisis - though I'd also say a lot of the vehement "not voting for Corbyn" crowd were those whose political knowledge didn't extend to any other "names".

Used to go to the doll as part of match day drinking occasionally in the 80s as well as some others mentioned. Also the doll on some works nights out in the late 80s as well as one of the lads was a bit of a biker.