Guest alex Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I doubt it. And I can't stand the bloke. I don't think he would, but equally he very well might have done. The way moral was, even after Keegan came, suggests there were real and deep problems behind the scenes. Not like you to cover all bases. Said the pot to the kettle (before it was charged with racial harassment). If you ask me a straight question Fop, I'll answer it. There lies the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I doubt it. And I can't stand the bloke. I don't think he would, but equally he very well might have done. The way moral was, even after Keegan came, suggests there were real and deep problems behind the scenes. Not like you to cover all bases. Said the pot to the kettle (before it was charged with racial harassment). If you ask me a straight question Fop, I'll answer it. There lies the difference. Nope, it really doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 We've had 12 full time managers in my life. Not my opinion, but from worst to best on games won.... 1 Ossie Ardiles 2 Jack Charlton 3 Sam Allardyce 4 Willie Mcfaul 5 Ruud Gullit 6 Jim Smith 7 Kenny Dalglish 8 Graeme Souness 9 Arthur Cox 10 Glenn Roeder 11 Bobby Robson 12 Kevin Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey 0 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 1. Dalglish - From what we were to what we became was painful. Just (barely) edges out: 2. Souness- Wrong choice through and through. The rot started at the end of the Robson era but he didn't help. Never been so happy to see a manager booted out. Joint 3. Allerdyce & Gullit: Allerdyce was changing us into a boring, functional team and wasn't around long enough to have an enormous impact. Gullit was neither here nor there for me, what with being rendered numb from Dalglish. His bizarre behaviour and poor results just before he went were deciding factors. 5. Roeder was never right for us and an idiot could have predicted where this was going to go. Think he's a top bloke, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 We've had 12 full time managers in my life. Not my opinion, but from worst to best on games won.... 1 Ossie Ardiles 2 Jack Charlton 3 Sam Allardyce 4 Willie Mcfaul 5 Ruud Gullit 6 Jim Smith 7 Kenny Dalglish 8 Graeme Souness 9 Arthur Cox 10 Glenn Roeder 11 Bobby Robson 12 Kevin Keegan Then if you factor in backing (or lack of) and teams they inherited (Souness and Dalgish for example inherited strong teams), you've probably got as unbiased a list as you'll ever get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I thought that list was canny telling, given that people said Allardyce deserved more time, but going on games lost, it's even worse. Again, from worst to best.... Sam Allardyce Osvaldo Ardiles Willie McFaul Ruud Gullit Jack Charlton Graeme Souness Glenn Roeder Jim Smith Arthur Cox Sir Bobby Robson Kenny Dalglish Kevin Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey 0 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I thought that list was canny telling, given that people said Allardyce deserved more time, but going on games lost, it's even worse. Again, from worst to best.... Sam Allardyce Osvaldo Ardiles Willie McFaul Ruud Gullit Jack Charlton Graeme Souness Glenn Roeder Jim Smith Arthur Cox Sir Bobby Robson Kenny Dalglish Kevin Keegan Caramba! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 We've had 12 full time managers in my life. Not my opinion, but from worst to best on games won.... 1 Ossie Ardiles 2 Jack Charlton 3 Sam Allardyce 4 Willie Mcfaul 5 Ruud Gullit 6 Jim Smith 7 Kenny Dalglish 8 Graeme Souness 9 Arthur Cox 10 Glenn Roeder 11 Bobby Robson 12 Kevin Keegan Where's Joe Harvey, Lee, Dinnis and McGarry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 We've had 12 full time managers in my life. Not my opinion, but from worst to best on games won.... 1 Ossie Ardiles 2 Jack Charlton 3 Sam Allardyce 4 Willie Mcfaul 5 Ruud Gullit 6 Jim Smith 7 Kenny Dalglish 8 Graeme Souness 9 Arthur Cox 10 Glenn Roeder 11 Bobby Robson 12 Kevin Keegan Where's Joe Harvey, Lee, Dinnis and McGarry? I only did my lifetime. Give me a minute.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey 0 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 We've had 12 full time managers in my life. Not my opinion, but from worst to best on games won.... 1 Ossie Ardiles 2 Jack Charlton 3 Sam Allardyce 4 Willie Mcfaul 5 Ruud Gullit 6 Jim Smith 7 Kenny Dalglish 8 Graeme Souness 9 Arthur Cox 10 Glenn Roeder 11 Bobby Robson 12 Kevin Keegan Where's Joe Harvey, Lee, Dinnis and McGarry? Lee has got to be ranking high on the list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 We've had 12 full time managers in my life. Not my opinion, but from worst to best on games won.... 1 Ossie Ardiles 2 Jack Charlton 3 Sam Allardyce 4 Willie Mcfaul 5 Ruud Gullit 6 Jim Smith 7 Kenny Dalglish 8 Graeme Souness 9 Arthur Cox 10 Glenn Roeder 11 Bobby Robson 12 Kevin Keegan Where's Joe Harvey, Lee, Dinnis and McGarry? I only did my lifetime. Give me a minute.... Are you only 28?? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuckin hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 We've had 12 full time managers in my life. Not my opinion, but from worst to best on games won.... 1 Ossie Ardiles 2 Jack Charlton 3 Sam Allardyce 4 Willie Mcfaul 5 Ruud Gullit 6 Jim Smith 7 Kenny Dalglish 8 Graeme Souness 9 Arthur Cox 10 Glenn Roeder 11 Bobby Robson 12 Kevin Keegan Where's Joe Harvey, Lee, Dinnis and McGarry? I only did my lifetime. Give me a minute.... Are you only 28?? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuckin hell. I know I come across as more learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Worst to best on games won Osvaldo Ardiles Kevin Keegan 2 Richard Dinnis Jack Charlton Bill McGarry Sam Allardyce Willie McFaul Norman Smith Ruud Gullit Jim Smith Charlie Mitten Gordon Lee Joe Harvey Stan Seymour Kenny Dalglish Andy Cunningham Doug Livingstone Tom Mather Graeme Souness Arthur Cox Glenn Roeder Sir Bobby Robson George Martin Keegan Combined Kevin Keegan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Worst to best on games lost Richard Dinnis Charlie Mitten Kevin Keegan 2 Norman Smith Sam Allardyce Bill McGarry Osvaldo Ardiles Andy Cunningham Stan Seymour Willie McFaul Tom Mather Ruud Gullit Jack Charlton Joe Harvey Doug Livingstone Gordon Lee Graeme Souness Glenn Roeder Jim Smith Arthur Cox Sir Bobby Robson Kenny Dalglish Keegan Combined George Martin Kevin Keegan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Worst to best on points taken from those available (assuming 3 points for a win was always in place) Osvaldo Ardiles Kevin Keegan 2 Richard Dinnis Bill McGarry Sam Allardyce Jack Charlton Norman Smith Willie McFaul Charlie Mitten Ruud Gullit Stan Seymour Joe Harvey Jim Smith Gordon Lee Andy Cunningham Tom Mather Kenny Dalglish Doug Livingstone Graeme Souness Glenn Roeder Arthur Cox Sir Bobby Robson George Martin Keegan Combined Kevin Keegan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_NUFC 0 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) Souness: Antagonistic Bully Gullit: Vain, Arrogant Madman Allardyce: Useless bigmouth Dalglish: Idiot who meddled with a good team Roeder: Not good enough, but meant well Edited June 6, 2008 by Tom_NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4867 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Dalglish ruined a great team. Ketsbaia for Asprilla Tomasson for Ferdinand FFS MAN ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Keegan Combined For some reason: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Dalglish ruined a great team. Ketsbaia for Asprilla Tomasson for Ferdinand FFS MAN ! Ketsbaia for Ginola really (he got his shirt anyway) and Andreas Andersson for Asprilla. Because the forward line really needed tinkering with. Nice one Kenny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Dalglish ruined a great team. Ketsbaia for Asprilla Tomasson for Ferdinand FFS MAN ! He is the worst thing thats ever happened to NUFC worse than McKeag and FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Dalglish ruined a great team. Ketsbaia for Asprilla Tomasson for Ferdinand FFS MAN ! Tbf Tino and Ketsbaia did actually play together and he was told by the PLC he had to sell either Sir Les or Shearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4867 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Dalglish ruined a great team. Ketsbaia for Asprilla Tomasson for Ferdinand FFS MAN ! Ketsbaia for Ginola really (he got his shirt anyway) and Andreas Andersson for Asprilla. Because the forward line really needed tinkering with. Nice one Kenny. You get my point though. He replaced dross with quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Dalglish ruined a great team. Ketsbaia for Asprilla Tomasson for Ferdinand FFS MAN ! Ketsbaia for Ginola really (he got his shirt anyway) and Andreas Andersson for Asprilla. Because the forward line really needed tinkering with. Nice one Kenny. You get my point though. He replaced dross with quality. I was agreeing with you really. He did a proper hatchet job on a quality side and we've never really been the same since. He was unlucky Shearer got so badly injured when he did however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey 0 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I seem to remember that Shearer played as lone striker for a while when he returned (Tommasson's position was a mystery at that time and Tino was already gone) and there was a desperate need for a second man to partner Al because he was constantly marked out the game and we had almost zero supply rate (Stephen Glass and Gillespie, who was right off his form) In came Andersson and I remember being relieved. Then I saw him play. Curse you Kenny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Stephan Guivarch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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