Park Life 68 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 Bearing in mind MA has told JFK it's an in and out policy reg cash available. After which JFK has gone on to contradict this regarding his now weekly outpourings regarding players he's looking at - with widely differing values. What are the basic things we can do, not only involving transfers to correct our situation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canofbeans 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 get ourselves sold. that won't easily happen. get some loan players in that aren't crocked. quantity is as important as quality. permanently sign a high quality left back. sign 2 ball winners and a creative player in midfield as its pretty clear that butt can't do what he did even 12 months ago. try different tactics. play on the break at home.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Park Life 68 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 get ourselves sold. that won't easily happen. get some loan players in that aren't crocked. quantity is as important as quality. permanently sign a high quality left back. sign 2 ball winners and a creative player in midfield as its pretty clear that butt can't do what he did even 12 months ago. try different tactics. play on the break at home.... I was thinking that very thing this morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ant 269 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 I honestly don't know, asides from transfers what were going to do. we obviously need a better manager than JFK, he's just tactically inept, but bringing a new manager in mid season is tough enough, let alone getting one currently of a good standard... no one in their right mind would come near us. Clearout of the "bad blood", but I think it's an impossible situation Ashley can't get it sold, Llambias is unlikely to go anywhere, Wise is about the only one we could possibly shift cheaply with minimal fuss and i can't see that happening. Anyone at the club currently with some sense will distance themselves from that crowd (Mort/other few who have left already taking that option), and no one who is quality/not a mercenary that can be bribed will want to join us in any role anyways. If we do manage to stay in the premiership and were not sold to someone new before the end of this season, were in a heap of shit for next year. Transfer wise the only players who should come near us are ones, mercenary enough to take big wages and not worry whats happening (wages we wont offer anyways) "badboys" who have burnt too many bridges at previous clubs and have no choice, eg Chimbonda too many things were allowed to go on too long, Ashleys gambles backfired massively and has made things way to difficult for simple resolutions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Face 27 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 Bearing in mind MA has told JFK it's an in and out policy reg cash available. Who said that? I read he was getting £15M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norbert Colon 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 I thought we played some great football on saturday but things fell to bits when we had no midfielders left (geremis legs went around 55 mins) and jfk fucked the subs up. CM is a position that has never been resolved since Speed left and I still reckon you get a someone like Appiah in (even if it isn't him) who is strong and can keep possession there is not much wrong with the team. Possession and the spine of the team are key - we are getting some solidity at the back and creating up front but Cm for me and obviously replace any players leaving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Park Life 68 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 Bearing in mind MA has told JFK it's an in and out policy reg cash available. Who said that? I read he was getting £15M. Where was this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Park Life 68 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) I thought we played some great football on saturday but things fell to bits when we had no midfielders left (geremis legs went around 55 mins) and jfk fucked the subs up. CM is a position that has never been resolved since Speed left and I still reckon you get a someone like Appiah in (even if it isn't him) who is strong and can keep possession there is not much wrong with the team. Possession and the spine of the team are key - we are getting some solidity at the back and creating up front but Cm for me and obviously replace any players leaving I was considering using Colocinni as the DM and also getting another CM in. Edited December 8, 2008 by Park Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Face 27 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 Bearing in mind MA has told JFK it's an in and out policy reg cash available. Who said that? I read he was getting £15M. Where was this? Oh, I've got to reveal my sources before you will yours eh? ESPN... http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...and&cc=5739 Kinnear met owner Mike Ashley this week and secured a reported £12million to spend in the window I misremembered the amount. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 1,941 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 ashley would be a total moron not to give jfk a decent wedge to spend in the january sales like. he's not going to get much return on his investment if he ends up trying to flog a championship club. i would like to see no players sold and at least three new ones bought in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Park Life 68 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 Bearing in mind MA has told JFK it's an in and out policy reg cash available. Who said that? I read he was getting £15M. Where was this? Oh, I've got to reveal my sources before you will yours eh? ESPN... http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...and&cc=5739 Kinnear met owner Mike Ashley this week and secured a reported £12million to spend in the window I misremembered the amount. That is good news and it is more recent. I'm happy with that....I did infer in the OP that JFK has come out with various scenarios so wasn't sure what to believe. He did start a few weeks ago saying it was an in and out thing, but I'm more than happy if that has changed. Maybe MA is waking up to the impending crisis. Looks like the Milner money to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Park Life 68 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 ashley would be a total moron not to give jfk a decent wedge to spend in the january sales like. he's not going to get much return on his investment if he ends up trying to flog a championship club. i would like to see no players sold and at least three new ones bought in. Bearing in mind the PL TV money alone means not gambling in the Jan window isn't really an option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Face 27 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 ashley would be a total moron not to give jfk a decent wedge to spend in the january sales like. he's not going to get much return on his investment if he ends up trying to flog a championship club. i would like to see no players sold and at least three new ones bought in. Bearing in mind the PL TV money alone means not gambling in the Jan window isn't really an option. Funny you should say that.... Some have disputed the results of a recent Journal survey which appeared to show 44% of fans were willing to accept Ashley as owner if he could not find a buyer. Ultimately, however, acceptance does not come into it and this is not a popularity contest. Newcastle need Ashley to invest in players and Ashley needs to invest whether he is liked or not on Tyneside. Otherwise he is going to be the owner of a Championship club with a crippling wage bill and an alarming likeness to League One’s once-mighty Leeds United. His net spend on new players since he took over is a little over £12m, a figure more than covered by the television deal with Sky. It is not unreasonable to suggest he will have to double that in the New Year if Kinnear is going to get the players he needs. A left-back and a central midfielder are the most pressing concerns, even if the lack of progress on a new contract for Michael Owen remains equally critical. http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/nufc-res...61634-22425571/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Park Life 68 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 All of this lost will be for sale in Jan. They are perilously short of cash. 1 Robert Green Goalkeeper 2 Lucas Neill Defender 3 Herita Ilunga Defender 4 Daniel Gabbidon Defender 5 Walter Lopez Defender 7 Kieron Dyer Midfielder 8 Scott Parker Midfielder 9 Dean Ashton Striker 10 Craig Bellamy Striker 11 Matthew Etherington Midfielder 12 Carlton Cole Striker 13 Luis Boa Morte Striker 15 Matthew Upson Defender 16 Mark Noble Midfielder 17 Hayden Mullins Midfielder 18 Jonathan Spector Defender 19 James Collins Defender 20 Julien Faubert Midfielder 21 Valon Behrami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alex Report post Posted December 8, 2008 There's some fucking sick notes there btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Park Life 68 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 There's some fucking sick notes there btw. I'd go for Mark Noble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Park Life 68 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 Part of the reason we are where we are is cause we missed out on Sidwell, Diarra and Muamba. All better than Guthrie or Butt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fop 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 Bearing in mind MA has told JFK it's an in and out policy reg cash available. Who said that? I read he was getting £15M. Where was this? Oh, I've got to reveal my sources before you will yours eh? ESPN... http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...and&cc=5739 Kinnear met owner Mike Ashley this week and secured a reported £12million to spend in the window I misremembered the amount. That is good news and it is more recent. I'm happy with that....I did infer in the OP that JFK has come out with various scenarios so wasn't sure what to believe. He did start a few weeks ago saying it was an in and out thing, but I'm more than happy if that has changed. Maybe MA is waking up to the impending crisis. Looks like the Milner money to me. At the very least that should be available. I'm still bemused at the seeming lack of funds in the club though are we really running revenue neutral, barring that £12m? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canofbeans 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 Part of the reason we are where we are is cause we missed out on Sidwell, Diarra and Muamba. All better than Guthrie or Butt. too right. i'd go for noble as well. good player though nothing really special. oh and a decent head coach. someone that can adapt the team rather than just trot out the same BS every week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ally 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 Maybe we'll spend another £6m on a gem like Xisco. Christ on a bike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peasepud 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 wooohoooo Dyer, Parker and Bellamy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ant 269 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 wooohoooo Dyer, Parker and Bellamy might as well bring Bowyer back as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Face 27 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 geezaz wet I hear Darren Anderton is available too if we're going down this route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Park Life 68 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 Err... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canofbeans 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2008 not going too well is it. hmmmn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
