Daily Mirror Article

[peasepud 59]

I couldnt give a fuck what the reasons are behind their support being louder, more passionate and more of an asset to their team than ours, the simple fact of life is that they have been.

 

I think Stoke fans are wank (© Stevie) they have that horrible small club mentality of "lets fuck the big boys" but at the end of the day they achieve what they set out to do and thats intimidate the away team and galvanise their own. The day we as supporters can do that again then I'll be happy but I see it as never happening until we're back up there fighting for the Champions League spots.

 

We as supporters do not seem to have the fight and passion for this scrap. Never have the words "you only sing when you're winning" been so apt as they are for us. Back in the mid 90s SJP was the place to be, the ground that everyone feared to come to. A wall of noise, intimidating atmosphere and solid behind the team support. Nowadays its quiet moaning and mutterings about how shite things are. Thats not down to "wank" fans or glory hunters that appeared in 93. After all they will have been the very same glory hunters that made the wall of noise in 96. No, its down to the shit we've been served up over the past few years, the constant stream of new managers each one shitter than the one before. The lies, the mistrust and the baffling on and off field decisions.

 

 

We've lost our priorities as fans, yes we want to be entertained and yes we want to see us winning but if we're not then we should be doing our bit to help it along. The first part of that process is the realisation that we are not the best fans in the world, far from it.

 

Yes, we are loyal and yes we are passionate but are we the best fans? are we fuck. The sooner we all realise that then the sooner we can start to do something about it.

 

Do you think an ageing match going support has anything to do with it, pud? Or a higher proportion of Range Rover driving mitten wearing types?

 

I dont personally think its down to any one type of fans, I would have thought that our fanbase profile is no different to any other clubs. I do believe its purely down to how we have been conditioned over the years. When Stevie talks about the Sky fans of '93 hes right but it shouldnt be a derogatory term. Sky brought football back to the general populus. It made it mainstream and a good place to be. The fact we were up there with the best of them in the following seasons just helped build our fanbase. These arent glory hunters or fair weather fans they are people who liked what they saw and stuck with us with the thinner years that followed.

 

Trouble was that these fans and those that were too young to be around in the pre Premier League days didnt know any different, they only knew the entertainers and pushing for the league, Europe qualification and stuffings of Man U, Spurs (yes Danny, the great Spuds were well and truly stuffed) et al. Now that times are hard and we are needed, fans dont know how to behave, the only songs they know are "We're gonna win the League", "Walking in a Keegan/ Robson wonderland" etc. All songs that cant be sung when you are where we are.

 

Where is the gallows humour? what happened to the songs of pride and passion? songs that make you proud to sing along and get involved. Where did they go?

 

Where are the men who used to stand on a barrier in the Gallowgate and face the wrong way for 90 minutes just so they could gee up the crowd to sing?

 

They havent gone anywhere, its just they know that either they will be ignored or told to sit down and shut up. They cant sing the old songs because its so long now since they have been that nobody knows the words. The only songs sung are Blaydon Races and "Toon Toon", the latter being one that I personally think is cringeworthy.

[Lazarus 0]

Back on topic - i think that article is heap of shite tbh.

 

Simply because the mirror are a bunch of twats when it comes to reporting newcastle united.

 

ive mentioned it before on here that i once bought a copy of the mirror just before setting off on a coach trip home from blackpool. when i got home i realised that the back page on my copy was laid out differently to my step dads copy. when i looked bit closer, both had the same article on the toon but me step dads version had a positive bias and my version had a negative bias.

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I couldnt give a fuck what the reasons are behind their support being louder, more passionate and more of an asset to their team than ours, the simple fact of life is that they have been.

 

I think Stoke fans are wank (© Stevie) they have that horrible small club mentality of "lets fuck the big boys" but at the end of the day they achieve what they set out to do and thats intimidate the away team and galvanise their own. The day we as supporters can do that again then I'll be happy but I see it as never happening until we're back up there fighting for the Champions League spots.

 

We as supporters do not seem to have the fight and passion for this scrap. Never have the words "you only sing when you're winning" been so apt as they are for us. Back in the mid 90s SJP was the place to be, the ground that everyone feared to come to. A wall of noise, intimidating atmosphere and solid behind the team support. Nowadays its quiet moaning and mutterings about how shite things are. Thats not down to "wank" fans or glory hunters that appeared in 93. After all they will have been the very same glory hunters that made the wall of noise in 96. No, its down to the shit we've been served up over the past few years, the constant stream of new managers each one shitter than the one before. The lies, the mistrust and the baffling on and off field decisions.

 

 

We've lost our priorities as fans, yes we want to be entertained and yes we want to see us winning but if we're not then we should be doing our bit to help it along. The first part of that process is the realisation that we are not the best fans in the world, far from it.

 

Yes, we are loyal and yes we are passionate but are we the best fans? are we fuck. The sooner we all realise that then the sooner we can start to do something about it.

 

Do you think an ageing match going support has anything to do with it, pud? Or a higher proportion of Range Rover driving mitten wearing types?

 

I dont personally think its down to any one type of fans, I would have thought that our fanbase profile is no different to any other clubs. I do believe its purely down to how we have been conditioned over the years. When Stevie talks about the Sky fans of '93 hes right but it shouldnt be a derogatory term. Sky brought football back to the general populus. It made it mainstream and a good place to be. The fact we were up there with the best of them in the following seasons just helped build our fanbase. These arent glory hunters or fair weather fans they are people who liked what they saw and stuck with us with the thinner years that followed.

 

Trouble was that these fans and those that were too young to be around in the pre Premier League days didnt know any different, they only knew the entertainers and pushing for the league, Europe qualification and stuffings of Man U, Spurs (yes Danny, the great Spuds were well and truly stuffed) et al. Now that times are hard and we are needed, fans dont know how to behave, the only songs they know are "We're gonna win the League", "Walking in a Keegan/ Robson wonderland" etc. All songs that cant be sung when you are where we are.

 

Where is the gallows humour? what happened to the songs of pride and passion? songs that make you proud to sing along and get involved. Where did they go?

 

Where are the men who used to stand on a barrier in the Gallowgate and face the wrong way for 90 minutes just so they could gee up the crowd to sing?

 

They havent gone anywhere, its just they know that either they will be ignored or told to sit down and shut up. They cant sing the old songs because its so long now since they have been that nobody knows the words. The only songs sung are Blaydon Races and "Toon Toon", the latter being one that I personally think is cringeworthy.

 

To hear 30,000 (caus some folk find it cringeworthy and others never sing) is something else. If anyone doesn't think that sounds great and inspiring just beggars belief imo. That chant is as much 6th-form on wine gums as Stoke fans booing the opposition, yet one is considered cringeworthy and the other justified and an asset; I don't get that at all.

 

Was it cringeworthy for us to turn up in doctor's coats all those years ago? Hell no, yet it's considered cringeworthy for 'shoes off if you love the toon' - something I find quite funny and different.

 

Which set of supporters changed the face of football by all turning up in replica tops?? And if anyone thinks it was someone else than NUFC supporters, they need to look back into history. Yet for a bloke over 35 to wear one it's considered cringeworthy by some (I know Pud still wears one from time to time, as I do).

 

I think the problem in all this is that we, as a whole, have been removed from our socialist, could't-give-a-fuck-if-it-upsets-anyone-as-I'm-going-to-have-a-good-laugh-regardless roots. We all seem to think we're too special, and acting the tit (and singing and shouting at the match) is something for the oiks of this world.

 

I get my ticket right at the back of 'the corner' precisely so I can stand all game and sing and shout like I did thirty+ years ago - AND FUCK ANYONE WHO THINKS I'M STUPID OR IMMATURE FOR DOING SO, AS I'M AT THE MATCH FFS.

[peasepud 59]

To hear 30,000 (caus some folk find it cringeworthy and others never sing) is something else. If anyone doesn't think that sounds great and inspiring just beggars belief imo. That chant is as much 6th-form on wine gums as Stoke fans booing the opposition, yet one is considered cringeworthy and the other justified and an asset; I don't get that at all.

 

Was it cringeworthy for us to turn up in doctor's coats all those years ago? Hell no, yet it's considered cringeworthy for 'shoes off if you love the toon' - something I find quite funny and different.

 

Which set of supporters changed the face of football by all turning up in replica tops?? And if anyone thinks it was someone else than NUFC supporters, they need to look back into history. Yet for a bloke over 35 to wear one it's considered cringeworthy by some (I know Pud still wears one from time to time, as I do).

 

I think the problem in all this is that we, as a whole, have been removed from our socialist, could't-give-a-fuck-if-it-upsets-anyone-as-I'm-going-to-have-a-good-laugh-regardless roots. We all seem to think we're too special, and acting the tit (and singing and shouting at the match) is something for the oiks of this world.

 

I get my ticket right at the back of 'the corner' precisely so I can stand all game and sing and shout like I did thirty+ years ago - AND FUCK ANYONE WHO THINKS I'M STUPID OR IMMATURE FOR DOING SO, AS I'M AT THE MATCH FFS.

 

If 30,000 sang it then maybe I wouldnt find it so cringeworthy however as songs and chants go its probably the lowest common denominator. What I would find inspiring and uplifiting for both the fans and more importantly the players would be 30k singing Blaydon Races in unison (rather than the 3 or 4 different chunks of the ground that we have doing it now and out of synch, this is something thats probably a fault of the stadium design rather than the fans tbh).

 

I would feel that lift in my heart like I used to if we all burst into "Geordie Ranger" or "Drink Drink" or even "N and an E and a Wubble U C" once in a while.

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To hear 30,000 (caus some folk find it cringeworthy and others never sing) is something else. If anyone doesn't think that sounds great and inspiring just beggars belief imo. That chant is as much 6th-form on wine gums as Stoke fans booing the opposition, yet one is considered cringeworthy and the other justified and an asset; I don't get that at all.

 

Was it cringeworthy for us to turn up in doctor's coats all those years ago? Hell no, yet it's considered cringeworthy for 'shoes off if you love the toon' - something I find quite funny and different.

 

Which set of supporters changed the face of football by all turning up in replica tops?? And if anyone thinks it was someone else than NUFC supporters, they need to look back into history. Yet for a bloke over 35 to wear one it's considered cringeworthy by some (I know Pud still wears one from time to time, as I do).

 

I think the problem in all this is that we, as a whole, have been removed from our socialist, could't-give-a-fuck-if-it-upsets-anyone-as-I'm-going-to-have-a-good-laugh-regardless roots. We all seem to think we're too special, and acting the tit (and singing and shouting at the match) is something for the oiks of this world.

 

I get my ticket right at the back of 'the corner' precisely so I can stand all game and sing and shout like I did thirty+ years ago - AND FUCK ANYONE WHO THINKS I'M STUPID OR IMMATURE FOR DOING SO, AS I'M AT THE MATCH FFS.

 

If 30,000 sang it then maybe I wouldnt find it so cringeworthy however as songs and chants go its probably the lowest common denominator. What I would find inspiring and uplifiting for both the fans and more importantly the players would be 30k singing Blaydon Races in unison (rather than the 3 or 4 different chunks of the ground that we have doing it now and out of synch).

 

I would feel that lift in my heart like I used to if we all burst into "Geordie Ranger" or "Drink Drink" or even "N and an E and a Wubble U C" once in a while.

 

Have to admit, I can't recall the last time I sang 'Drink, drink' but Wubble U C gets frequent airings in 'the corner'.

 

Granted, the 30,000 singing toon toon is vary rare, but when it does happen it is uplifting. I just wish folk would join in, regardless. It does get sung, repeatedly, so if more folk joined in, the rest wouldn't feel so self-conscious about singing along.

 

There is no debate about how bad the atmosphere is at SJP, it just breaks my heart to witness it because we all know that it can be so much different.

 

Some exciting football would change things. And I fully expect things to be so much better next week against Pompey, as the fans realise the seriousness of the situation. I fucking hope it is, anyway.

[peasepud 59]

I hoped that for Chelsea yet it was no different, if the new messiah cant get it to happen on his return then I cant imagine what will.

 

Til the end though we should continue trying.

[Happy Face 29]

I hoped that for Chelsea yet it was no different, if the new messiah cant get it to happen on his return then I cant imagine what will.

 

Til the end though we should continue trying.

 

it ends?

 

[Monkeys Fist 38817]

I couldnt give a fuck what the reasons are behind their support being louder, more passionate and more of an asset to their team than ours, the simple fact of life is that they have been.

 

I think Stoke fans are wank (© Stevie) they have that horrible small club mentality of "lets fuck the big boys" but at the end of the day they achieve what they set out to do and thats intimidate the away team and galvanise their own. The day we as supporters can do that again then I'll be happy but I see it as never happening until we're back up there fighting for the Champions League spots.

 

We as supporters do not seem to have the fight and passion for this scrap. Never have the words "you only sing when you're winning" been so apt as they are for us. Back in the mid 90s SJP was the place to be, the ground that everyone feared to come to. A wall of noise, intimidating atmosphere and solid behind the team support. Nowadays its quiet moaning and mutterings about how shite things are. Thats not down to "wank" fans or glory hunters that appeared in 93. After all they will have been the very same glory hunters that made the wall of noise in 96. No, its down to the shit we've been served up over the past few years, the constant stream of new managers each one shitter than the one before. The lies, the mistrust and the baffling on and off field decisions.

 

 

We've lost our priorities as fans, yes we want to be entertained and yes we want to see us winning but if we're not then we should be doing our bit to help it along. The first part of that process is the realisation that we are not the best fans in the world, far from it.

 

Yes, we are loyal and yes we are passionate but are we the best fans? are we fuck. The sooner we all realise that then the sooner we can start to do something about it.

 

Do you think an ageing match going support has anything to do with it, pud? Or a higher proportion of Range Rover driving mitten wearing types?

 

I dont personally think its down to any one type of fans, I would have thought that our fanbase profile is no different to any other clubs. I do believe its purely down to how we have been conditioned over the years. When Stevie talks about the Sky fans of '93 hes right but it shouldnt be a derogatory term. Sky brought football back to the general populus. It made it mainstream and a good place to be. The fact we were up there with the best of them in the following seasons just helped build our fanbase. These arent glory hunters or fair weather fans they are people who liked what they saw and stuck with us with the thinner years that followed.

 

Trouble was that these fans and those that were too young to be around in the pre Premier League days didnt know any different, they only knew the entertainers and pushing for the league, Europe qualification and stuffings of Man U, Spurs (yes Danny, the great Spuds were well and truly stuffed) et al. Now that times are hard and we are needed, fans dont know how to behave, the only songs they know are "We're gonna win the League", "Walking in a Keegan/ Robson wonderland" etc. All songs that cant be sung when you are where we are.

 

Where is the gallows humour? what happened to the songs of pride and passion? songs that make you proud to sing along and get involved. Where did they go?

 

Where are the men who used to stand on a barrier in the Gallowgate and face the wrong way for 90 minutes just so they could gee up the crowd to sing?

 

They havent gone anywhere, its just they know that either they will be ignored or told to sit down and shut up. They cant sing the old songs because its so long now since they have been that nobody knows the words. The only songs sung are Blaydon Races and "Toon Toon", the latter being one that I personally think is cringeworthy.

 

 

Seriously another fucking spot on post.

 

You should really consider putting yourself forward for the NUSC pr / spokesperson role as you seem to have a grip on things that transcends the various fan "types".

 

In two posts you really have summed up some very good / true points.

 

How you solve the problem is another matter all together. :D

Safe Standing?- any need to explain how this would help the 'atmosphere'?

[Park Life 70]

I couldnt give a fuck what the reasons are behind their support being louder, more passionate and more of an asset to their team than ours, the simple fact of life is that they have been.

 

I think Stoke fans are wank (© Stevie) they have that horrible small club mentality of "lets fuck the big boys" but at the end of the day they achieve what they set out to do and thats intimidate the away team and galvanise their own. The day we as supporters can do that again then I'll be happy but I see it as never happening until we're back up there fighting for the Champions League spots.

 

We as supporters do not seem to have the fight and passion for this scrap. Never have the words "you only sing when you're winning" been so apt as they are for us. Back in the mid 90s SJP was the place to be, the ground that everyone feared to come to. A wall of noise, intimidating atmosphere and solid behind the team support. Nowadays its quiet moaning and mutterings about how shite things are. Thats not down to "wank" fans or glory hunters that appeared in 93. After all they will have been the very same glory hunters that made the wall of noise in 96. No, its down to the shit we've been served up over the past few years, the constant stream of new managers each one shitter than the one before. The lies, the mistrust and the baffling on and off field decisions.

 

 

We've lost our priorities as fans, yes we want to be entertained and yes we want to see us winning but if we're not then we should be doing our bit to help it along. The first part of that process is the realisation that we are not the best fans in the world, far from it.

 

Yes, we are loyal and yes we are passionate but are we the best fans? are we fuck. The sooner we all realise that then the sooner we can start to do something about it.

 

Do you think an ageing match going support has anything to do with it, pud? Or a higher proportion of Range Rover driving mitten wearing types?