accadacca 0 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 we can still sign up to 8 players on loan after it expires, and, sign out of contract players like Lovenkrands. The deadline is only significant for premier league clubs so don't get het up if no one is signed before 1/9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accadacca 0 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 we can still sign up to 8 players on loan after it expires, and, sign out of contract players like Lovenkrands. The deadline is only significant for premier league clubs so don't get het up if no one is signed before 1/9 47.3 There shall be two categories of temporary loan transfers allowed - Short Term Loans and Long Term Loans. The following restrictions shall apply to both types of loan:47.3.1 A maximum of 5 loan Players (either Short Term or Long Term) can be named in the sixteen Players listed on a team sheet for any individual Match. This figure shall include any additional loan of a goalkeeper approved by the Executive under the provisions of Regulation 49. 47.3.2 No more than 4 loan Players (either Short Term or Long Term) may join one Club from another Club in any Season. 48.1 Short Term Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 47.3, Short Term Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with following provisions: 48.1.1 A Club can have up to 8 Players on Short Term Loan during any Season, but no more than 4 at any one time.48.1.2 Short Term Loan transfers shall be for a period of not less than 28 days or for more than 93 days in any one Season. The loan period is inclusive of the start date and finishing date. 48.1.3 The Short term loan of a goalkeeper may be subject to a recall clause (including within the original 28 days) but this may only be implemented in exceptional circumstances with the consent of the Executive. 48.1.4 The Executive shall not permit a Short term loan transfer for a period in excess of 93 days in any one Season save in extenuating circumstances, at the discretion of the Executive. 48.1.5 Short term loans which subsequently become permanent transfers, or simultaneously upon termination become Long Term Loans, shall not count against a Club’s quota of Short Term Loans for that season. 48.2 Long Term Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 47.3, Long Term Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with the following provisions: 48.2.1 A Player can only be transferred on a Long Term Loan if he was under the age of 23 on the 30th June prior to the Season in which the Long Term Loan transfer is intended to take place. 48.2.2 A Club can have up to 4 Players on Long Term Loan at any one time during any Season. 48.2.3 The registration of a Long Term Loan will only be permitted during the period 1st July to 31st December in any Season. 48.2.4 The period of a Long Term Loan shall expire no earlier than the end of the Season in which the Long Term Loan takes place and a Player signed on such a transfer must complete the loan period and may not be recalled by his original Club at any time during that loan period save: a when the Player is recalled and transferred permanently to another Club; and b in the case of a goalkeeper whose agreement may contain a recall clause which may only be implemented in exceptional circumstances with the consent of the Executive. 48.2.5 Long term loan transfers which subsequently become permanent transfers before 31st December in the same season shall not count against a Club’s quota of such Long Term Loans for that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 57.6.3.2.6.7-4r5e. states you will be banned if you post any more shite like this. You've just blown your own argument out of the water frankly, this club needs to strengthen its depth and know where it is. Loans are one answer but they are not the solution overall. You're constrained with loans, players get cup tied or their club refuses to allow them to play, players on loan can be recalled by their club just when you need them most, as you've shown above a max of 5 loan players can be named in a squad, we hit injuries and we could have problems with that one. Theres a thousand an one reasons why you thinking the world of NUFC is rosy because we can grab a loan player here and there when the going gets tough is bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 accadacca is llambias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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accadacca 0 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 57.6.3.2.6.7-4r5e. states you will be banned if you post any more shite like this. You've just blown your own argument out of the water frankly, this club needs to strengthen its depth and know where it is. Loans are one answer but they are not the solution overall. You're constrained with loans, players get cup tied or their club refuses to allow them to play, players on loan can be recalled by their club just when you need them most, as you've shown above a max of 5 loan players can be named in a squad, we hit injuries and we could have problems with that one. Theres a thousand an one reasons why you thinking the world of NUFC is rosy because we can grab a loan player here and there when the going gets tough is bollocks. I am not saying that ffs. Overheard some lads in the boozer saying ''if we don't get anyone in before Tuedsa we are knacked as the window doesn't open again til January''. IF we do hit injury problems after Tuesday, all I am saying is that players can be brought in on loan to bolster the squad - so everyone shouldn't get all overly despondent if no one is signed before then. We have to face facts - loan deals and out of contract players are all we will going for. Ashley wants promotion on the cheap, and he knows he has a great chance of achieving this. The wage bill for staff inc players, admin etc still stands at £850,000 per week {45 million divided by 52} despite fire sales. Income from matchdays is only around £500,000 and that is roughly every fortnight, not every week. The £11m parachute payment only equates to £200,000 per week. He is still losing around £400k per week at present, so anyone who thinks transfer fees and big wages are going to be paid out whilst he is still in charge is living in cloud cuckoo land. I would guess that Lovenkrands wage demands are stopping the deal going through at present. We all know the situation is far from good, but it looks like the present squad will remain intact with no sales between now and Tuesday evening and it is too good not to go up. Leicester will be put to the sword just as Reading, Sheff Wed and H'field were, even if Ameobi, Carroll and Guti are missing and as ever, I have put my money where my mouth is at the bookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accadacca 0 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 aye, it's much better to be a miserable kernt innit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accadacca 0 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 accadacca is llambias. unacceptably below the belt - I demand a retraction and a fullsome apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 57.6.3.2.6.7-4r5e. states you will be banned if you post any more shite like this. You've just blown your own argument out of the water frankly, this club needs to strengthen its depth and know where it is. Loans are one answer but they are not the solution overall. You're constrained with loans, players get cup tied or their club refuses to allow them to play, players on loan can be recalled by their club just when you need them most, as you've shown above a max of 5 loan players can be named in a squad, we hit injuries and we could have problems with that one. Theres a thousand an one reasons why you thinking the world of NUFC is rosy because we can grab a loan player here and there when the going gets tough is bollocks. I am not saying that ffs. Overheard some lads in the boozer saying ''if we don't get anyone in before Tuedsa we are knacked as the window doesn't open again til January''. IF we do hit injury problems after Tuesday, all I am saying is that players can be brought in on loan to bolster the squad - so everyone shouldn't get all overly despondent if no one is signed before then. We have to face facts - loan deals and out of contract players are all we will going for. Ashley wants promotion on the cheap, and he knows he has a great chance of achieving this. The wage bill for staff inc players, admin etc still stands at £850,000 per week {45 million divided by 52} despite fire sales. Income from matchdays is only around £500,000 and that is roughly every fortnight, not every week. The £11m parachute payment only equates to £200,000 per week. He is still losing around £400k per week at present, so anyone who thinks transfer fees and big wages are going to be paid out whilst he is still in charge is living in cloud cuckoo land. I would guess that Lovenkrands wage demands are stopping the deal going through at present. We all know the situation is far from good, but it looks like the present squad will remain intact with no sales between now and Tuesday evening and it is too good not to go up. Leicester will be put to the sword just as Reading, Sheff Wed and H'field were, even if Ameobi, Carroll and Guti are missing and as ever, I have put my money where my mouth is at the bookies. You've not put your money where your mouth is here though. The offer still stands, £100 to the charity of the winners choice, Newcastle will NOT be promoted this season if Ashley is still in charge. now and Tuesday evening and it is too good not to go up. Most of which were too good to go down last season too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giraffidae 0 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 IF we do hit injury problems after Tuesday, all I am saying is that players can be brought in on loan to bolster the squad - so everyone shouldn't get all overly despondent if no one is signed before then. ————— We have to face facts - loan deals and out of contract players are all we will going for. ————— Ashley wants promotion on the cheap, and he knows he has a great chance of achieving this. He is still losing around £400k per week at present, so anyone who thinks transfer fees and big wages are going to be paid out whilst he is still in charge is living in cloud cuckoo land. I would guess that Lovenkrands wage demands are stopping the deal going through at present. so we can’t afford the wages at the moment — but all these loan players and out of contract players will want paying, thus adding to the loss making. So that’s the great plan then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I demand a retraction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordiejihad 0 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 5pm Tuesday ALWAYS meant nowt , just takes some folk longer to wake up to that FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 (edited) we can still sign up to 8 players on loan after it expires, and, sign out of contract players like Lovenkrands. The deadline is only significant for premier league clubs so don't get het up if no one is signed before 1/9 Actually that's not the case. We can only sign out of contract players after the deadline closes. FACT! Edit: Except in cases deemed an emergency by the league. Whatever that means. Edited September 1, 2009 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 we can still sign up to 8 players on loan after it expires, and, sign out of contract players like Lovenkrands. The deadline is only significant for premier league clubs so don't get het up if no one is signed before 1/9 Actually that's not the case. We can only sign out of contract players after the deadline closes. FACT! Edit: Except in cases deemed an emergency by the league. Whatever that means. I think i also read somewhere that you can only have so many of these after deadline players in your team at the same time, though it may have been 5 so that's hardly going to be an issue! I'm hoping we do as seems quite likely bring Lovenkrands in, the only worry is that the guy has had no pre-season games and no competitive games so he will be weeks off full match fitness, would still probably chuck him in the team though, certainly in the league cup match anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 we can still sign up to 8 players on loan after it expires, and, sign out of contract players like Lovenkrands. The deadline is only significant for premier league clubs so don't get het up if no one is signed before 1/9 Actually that's not the case. We can only sign out of contract players after the deadline closes. FACT! Edit: Except in cases deemed an emergency by the league. Whatever that means. Isnt it only for cases such as when all your keepers are in a car crash together or some such other highly unlikely scenario. It sure as hell doesnt count for "emmm I accidentally sold our last defender, what a clot I am. Can I borrow a couple off Chelsea?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9340 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 As I understand it it's for something like that, like if you'd be left with two 17yr olds at centre half for a decent period of time you'd be allowed to bring in a couple of loan signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpossiblyDaft 1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Unless they're cracking down this season, then no - its basically anyone you want to loan, as long as its short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6502 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 where's me fookin wow signing man?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 where's me fookin wow signing man?! Peter Wowenkrands. Good signing imo. Not enough, but better than nowt. Maybe it's a FACT! that our striker situation is bad and that Hughton has successfully drummed it into LardAshe's thick skull that we needed someone in - or else. One or two more would have been nice. No more out is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accadacca 0 Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 The deadline is only significant for premier league clubs so don't get het up if no one is signed before 1/9 Actually that's not the case. We can only sign out of contract players after the deadline closes. FACT! Edit: Except in cases deemed an emergency by the league. Whatever that means. not according to the rules that I posted about earlier - bad news if you are right though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accadacca 0 Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 we can still sign up to 8 players on loan after it expires, and, sign out of contract players like Lovenkrands. The deadline is only significant for premier league clubs so don't get het up if no one is signed before 1/9 Actually that's not the case. We can only sign out of contract players after the deadline closes. FACT! Edit: Except in cases deemed an emergency by the league. Whatever that means. If the last day of a transfer window is on a weekend, the deadline can be extended to the following Monday at the request of those involved for business reasons.[14] The first shift of the deadline since its inception took place in summer 2008, when the deadline was extended by 24 hours to fall on Monday 1 September at midnight.[15][16] The transfer deadline in England was similarly extended to 5pm 1 September 2009, due to the August Bank Holiday. The German football league has announced to extend the January 2009 deadline to 2 February.[17] Free agents can be signed by a club at any time in the season, if they had been released by their previous club before the end of the transfer window.[14] A club can request to sign a player on emergency basis, ie if several goalkeepers are injured at the same time.[14] In England, clubs from the Football League Championship to the Football Conference can loan in players from 8 September to 23 November and also from 8 February until 23 March.[18] An existing loan deal can be made permanent at any time outside the transfer window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Another fucked up transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I dont' think we've had a good one yet have we? I still think we will bring some more players in on either free's or loans. I noticed they were going on about Bentley's situation at Spurs with Arry basically stating he has no future there anymore. Might be worth a try to get him. He wouldn't be able to get anywhere better now and they might be happy even to get a percentage of his wage away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 we can still sign up to 8 players on loan after it expires, and, sign out of contract players like Lovenkrands. The deadline is only significant for premier league clubs so don't get het up if no one is signed before 1/9 Actually that's not the case. We can only sign out of contract players after the deadline closes. FACT! Edit: Except in cases deemed an emergency by the league. Whatever that means. If the last day of a transfer window is on a weekend, the deadline can be extended to the following Monday at the request of those involved for business reasons.[14] The first shift of the deadline since its inception took place in summer 2008, when the deadline was extended by 24 hours to fall on Monday 1 September at midnight.[15][16] The transfer deadline in England was similarly extended to 5pm 1 September 2009, due to the August Bank Holiday. The German football league has announced to extend the January 2009 deadline to 2 February.[17] Free agents can be signed by a club at any time in the season, if they had been released by their previous club before the end of the transfer window.[14] A club can request to sign a player on emergency basis, ie if several goalkeepers are injured at the same time.[14] In England, clubs from the Football League Championship to the Football Conference can loan in players from 8 September to 23 November and also from 8 February until 23 March.[18] An existing loan deal can be made permanent at any time outside the transfer window The league have clarified the situation more recently though and the bit in bold (from wiki I assume) would now appear to be out of date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Another fucked up transfer window. Unbelievable man. And while I was all for getting Lovenkrands in can you believe we've given a bloke without a club and with a poor injury record a 3 year deal? You couldn't make this shit up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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