End of the world

[Guest Stevie]

I don't think anyone really knows. The electro-magnetic sea won't come from the sun anyway it will come when we line up with our black hole, think of it as a kind of gulf stream in space. The sun flaring when its poles shift (repeatedly) is only a bi-product. This stuff is starting to hit us already (for about a decade) and it the real cause of global warming (and they know that). It's not a good idea to tell people there is planet event coming and we don't know what will happen.

What in the opinion of ONE cheap vodka swilling Russian make a name for himself scientist. The planet has been around for 3 billion years, why has this never happened before? Statistically speaking the odds of it happening are about the same as LeazesMag and MancMag in a duet being christmas number one for the next ten years running singing agadoo. In fact the odds are even longer than that.

[Park Life 70]

New Scientist.

 

 

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2012....html?full=true

 

 

 

 

 

IT IS midnight on 22 September 2012 and the skies above Manhattan are filled with a flickering curtain of colourful light. Few New Yorkers have seen the aurora this far south but their fascination is short-lived. Within a few seconds, electric bulbs dim and flicker, then become unusually bright for a fleeting moment. Then all the lights in the state go out. Within 90 seconds, the entire eastern half of the US is without power.

 

A year later and millions of Americans are dead and the nation's infrastructure lies in tatters. The World Bank declares America a developing nation. Europe, Scandinavia, China and Japan are also struggling to recover from the same fateful event - a violent storm, 150 million kilometres away on the surface of the sun.

 

It sounds ridiculous. Surely the sun couldn't create so profound a disaster on Earth. Yet an extraordinary report funded by NASA and issued by the US National Academy of Sciences (NAS) in January this year claims it could do just that.

 

Over the last few decades, western civilisations have busily sown the seeds of their own destruction. Our modern way of life, with its reliance on technology, has unwittingly exposed us to an extraordinary danger: plasma balls spewed from the surface of the sun could wipe out our power grids, with catastrophic consequences.

 

The projections of just how catastrophic make chilling reading. "We're moving closer and closer to the edge of a possible disaster," says Daniel Baker, a space weather expert based at the University of Colorado in Boulder, and chair of the NAS committee responsible for the report.

 

It is hard to conceive of the sun wiping out a large amount of our hard-earned progress. Nevertheless, it is possible. The surface of the sun is a roiling mass of plasma - charged high-energy particles - some of which escape the surface and travel through space as the solar wind. From time to time, that wind carries a billion-tonne glob of plasma, a fireball known as a coronal mass ejection (see "When hell comes to Earth"). If one should hit the Earth's magnetic shield, the result could be truly devastating.

 

The incursion of the plasma into our atmosphere causes rapid changes in the configuration of Earth's magnetic field which, in turn, induce currents in the long wires of the power grids. The grids were not built to handle this sort of direct current electricity. The greatest danger is at the step-up and step-down transformers used to convert power from its transport voltage to domestically useful voltage. The increased DC current creates strong magnetic fields that saturate a transformer's magnetic core. The result is runaway current in the transformer's copper wiring, which rapidly heats up and melts. This is exactly what happened in the Canadian province of Quebec in March 1989, and six million people spent 9 hours without electricity. But things could get much, much worse than that.

Worse than Katrina

 

The most serious space weather event in history happened in 1859. It is known as the Carrington event, after the British amateur astronomer Richard Carrington, who was the first to note its cause: "two patches of intensely bright and white light" emanating from a large group of sunspots. The Carrington event comprised eight days of severe space weather.

 

There were eyewitness accounts of stunning auroras, even at equatorial latitudes. The world's telegraph networks experienced severe disruptions, and Victorian magnetometers were driven off the scale.

 

Though a solar outburst could conceivably be more powerful, "we haven't found an example of anything worse than a Carrington event", says James Green, head of NASA's planetary division and an expert on the events of 1859. "From a scientific perspective, that would be the one that we'd want to survive." However, the prognosis from the NAS analysis is that, thanks to our technological prowess, many of us may not.

 

There are two problems to face. The first is the modern electricity grid, which is designed to operate at ever higher voltages over ever larger areas. Though this provides a more efficient way to run the electricity networks, minimising power losses and wastage through overproduction, it has made them much more vulnerable to space weather. The high-power grids act as particularly efficient antennas, channelling enormous direct currents into the power transformers.

 

The second problem is the grid's interdependence with the systems that support our lives: water and sewage treatment, supermarket delivery infrastructures, power station controls, financial markets and many others all rely on electricity. Put the two together, and it is clear that a repeat of the Carrington event could produce a catastrophe the likes of which the world has never seen. "It's just the opposite of how we usually think of natural disasters," says John Kappenman, a power industry analyst with the Metatech Corporation of Goleta, California, and an advisor to the NAS committee that produced the report. "Usually the less developed regions of the world are most vulnerable, not the highly sophisticated technological regions."

 

According to the NAS report, a severe space weather event in the US could induce ground currents that would knock out 300 key transformers within about 90 seconds, cutting off the power for more than 130 million people (see map). From that moment, the clock is ticking for America.

 

First to go - immediately for some people - is drinkable water. Anyone living in a high-rise apartment, where water has to be pumped to reach them, would be cut off straight away. For the rest, drinking water will still come through the taps for maybe half a day. With no electricity to pump water from reservoirs, there is no more after that.

 

There is simply no electrically powered transport: no trains, underground or overground. Our just-in-time culture for delivery networks may represent the pinnacle of efficiency, but it means that supermarket shelves would empty very quickly - delivery trucks could only keep running until their tanks ran out of fuel, and there is no electricity to pump any more from the underground tanks at filling stations.

 

Back-up generators would run at pivotal sites - but only until their fuel ran out. For hospitals, that would mean about 72 hours of running a bare-bones, essential care only, service. After that, no more modern healthcare.

72 hours of healthcare remaining

 

The truly shocking finding is that this whole situation would not improve for months, maybe years: melted transformer hubs cannot be repaired, only replaced. "From the surveys I've done, you might have a few spare transformers around, but installing a new one takes a well-trained crew a week or more," says Kappenman. "A major electrical utility might have one suitably trained crew, maybe two."

 

Within a month, then, the handful of spare transformers would be used up. The rest will have to be built to order, something that can take up to 12 months.

 

Even when some systems are capable of receiving power again, there is no guarantee there will be any to deliver. Almost all natural gas and fuel pipelines require electricity to operate. Coal-fired power stations usually keep reserves to last 30 days, but with no transport systems running to bring more fuel, there will be no electricity in the second month.

[Park Life 70]

I don't think anyone really knows. The electro-magnetic sea won't come from the sun anyway it will come when we line up with our black hole, think of it as a kind of gulf stream in space. The sun flaring when its poles shift (repeatedly) is only a bi-product. This stuff is starting to hit us already (for about a decade) and it the real cause of global warming (and they know that). It's not a good idea to tell people there is planet event coming and we don't know what will happen.

What in the opinion of ONE cheap vodka swilling Russian make a name for himself scientist. The planet has been around for 3 billion years, why has this never happened before? Statistically speaking the odds of it happening are about the same as LeazesMag and MancMag in a duet being christmas number one for the next ten years running singing agadoo. In fact the odds are even longer than that.

 

This time it's personal.

[Guest Stevie]

New Scientist.

 

 

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2012....html?full=true

 

 

 

 

 

IT IS midnight on 22 September 2012 and the skies above Manhattan are filled with a flickering curtain of colourful light. Few New Yorkers have seen the aurora this far south but their fascination is short-lived. Within a few seconds, electric bulbs dim and flicker, then become unusually bright for a fleeting moment. Then all the lights in the state go out. Within 90 seconds, the entire eastern half of the US is without power.

 

A year later and millions of Americans are dead and the nation's infrastructure lies in tatters. The World Bank declares America a developing nation. Europe, Scandinavia, China and Japan are also struggling to recover from the same fateful event - a violent storm, 150 million kilometres away on the surface of the sun.

 

It sounds ridiculous. Surely the sun couldn't create so profound a disaster on Earth. Yet an extraordinary report funded by NASA and issued by the US National Academy of Sciences (NAS) in January this year claims it could do just that.

 

Over the last few decades, western civilisations have busily sown the seeds of their own destruction. Our modern way of life, with its reliance on technology, has unwittingly exposed us to an extraordinary danger: plasma balls spewed from the surface of the sun could wipe out our power grids, with catastrophic consequences.

 

The projections of just how catastrophic make chilling reading. "We're moving closer and closer to the edge of a possible disaster," says Daniel Baker, a space weather expert based at the University of Colorado in Boulder, and chair of the NAS committee responsible for the report.

 

It is hard to conceive of the sun wiping out a large amount of our hard-earned progress. Nevertheless, it is possible. The surface of the sun is a roiling mass of plasma - charged high-energy particles - some of which escape the surface and travel through space as the solar wind. From time to time, that wind carries a billion-tonne glob of plasma, a fireball known as a coronal mass ejection (see "When hell comes to Earth"). If one should hit the Earth's magnetic shield, the result could be truly devastating.

 

The incursion of the plasma into our atmosphere causes rapid changes in the configuration of Earth's magnetic field which, in turn, induce currents in the long wires of the power grids. The grids were not built to handle this sort of direct current electricity. The greatest danger is at the step-up and step-down transformers used to convert power from its transport voltage to domestically useful voltage. The increased DC current creates strong magnetic fields that saturate a transformer's magnetic core. The result is runaway current in the transformer's copper wiring, which rapidly heats up and melts. This is exactly what happened in the Canadian province of Quebec in March 1989, and six million people spent 9 hours without electricity. But things could get much, much worse than that.

Worse than Katrina

 

The most serious space weather event in history happened in 1859. It is known as the Carrington event, after the British amateur astronomer Richard Carrington, who was the first to note its cause: "two patches of intensely bright and white light" emanating from a large group of sunspots. The Carrington event comprised eight days of severe space weather.

 

There were eyewitness accounts of stunning auroras, even at equatorial latitudes. The world's telegraph networks experienced severe disruptions, and Victorian magnetometers were driven off the scale.

 

Though a solar outburst could conceivably be more powerful, "we haven't found an example of anything worse than a Carrington event", says James Green, head of NASA's planetary division and an expert on the events of 1859. "From a scientific perspective, that would be the one that we'd want to survive." However, the prognosis from the NAS analysis is that, thanks to our technological prowess, many of us may not.

 

There are two problems to face. The first is the modern electricity grid, which is designed to operate at ever higher voltages over ever larger areas. Though this provides a more efficient way to run the electricity networks, minimising power losses and wastage through overproduction, it has made them much more vulnerable to space weather. The high-power grids act as particularly efficient antennas, channelling enormous direct currents into the power transformers.

 

The second problem is the grid's interdependence with the systems that support our lives: water and sewage treatment, supermarket delivery infrastructures, power station controls, financial markets and many others all rely on electricity. Put the two together, and it is clear that a repeat of the Carrington event could produce a catastrophe the likes of which the world has never seen. "It's just the opposite of how we usually think of natural disasters," says John Kappenman, a power industry analyst with the Metatech Corporation of Goleta, California, and an advisor to the NAS committee that produced the report. "Usually the less developed regions of the world are most vulnerable, not the highly sophisticated technological regions."

 

According to the NAS report, a severe space weather event in the US could induce ground currents that would knock out 300 key transformers within about 90 seconds, cutting off the power for more than 130 million people (see map). From that moment, the clock is ticking for America.

 

First to go - immediately for some people - is drinkable water. Anyone living in a high-rise apartment, where water has to be pumped to reach them, would be cut off straight away. For the rest, drinking water will still come through the taps for maybe half a day. With no electricity to pump water from reservoirs, there is no more after that.

 

There is simply no electrically powered transport: no trains, underground or overground. Our just-in-time culture for delivery networks may represent the pinnacle of efficiency, but it means that supermarket shelves would empty very quickly - delivery trucks could only keep running until their tanks ran out of fuel, and there is no electricity to pump any more from the underground tanks at filling stations.

 

Back-up generators would run at pivotal sites - but only until their fuel ran out. For hospitals, that would mean about 72 hours of running a bare-bones, essential care only, service. After that, no more modern healthcare.

72 hours of healthcare remaining

 

The truly shocking finding is that this whole situation would not improve for months, maybe years: melted transformer hubs cannot be repaired, only replaced. "From the surveys I've done, you might have a few spare transformers around, but installing a new one takes a well-trained crew a week or more," says Kappenman. "A major electrical utility might have one suitably trained crew, maybe two."

 

Within a month, then, the handful of spare transformers would be used up. The rest will have to be built to order, something that can take up to 12 months.

 

Even when some systems are capable of receiving power again, there is no guarantee there will be any to deliver. Almost all natural gas and fuel pipelines require electricity to operate. Coal-fired power stations usually keep reserves to last 30 days, but with no transport systems running to bring more fuel, there will be no electricity in the second month.

In the extremely unlikely event of that happening, two things:

 

1) No one would die immediately

2) How good would it be if it last for 4 hours, and only effected America?

[Park Life 70]

http://mkaku.org/home/

[snakehips 0]

Plasma Changes in the Solar System

The increasing amount of plasma that has been entering our solar system over the last couple of decades has been receiving a lot of attention in the run up to 2012. A Russian team of scientists, headed by the planet physicist Dr. Alexey Dmitriev, has been following this phenomenon. Their research suggests that this influx of plasma may be responsible for some of the recent dramatic climate changes.

 

The Role of Plasma in Recent Solar System Changes

A team from the Siberian Russian Academy of Sciences has been investigating changes in the heliosphere, the electromagnetic envelope that surrounds our solar system. The heliosphere acts like a giant protective sheath surrounding our sun and the entire solar system as we travel through space. Normally, it functions as a giant deflector, protecting us from a potentially harmful influx of cosmic radiation and keeping conditions within the inner solar system relatively stable. However, it is now being bombarded with so much radiation that an unprecedented amount is breaking through. This is reaching our sun and all of the planets of the solar system, including our own.

What is a plasma?

A plasma is a partially ionized gas and is sometimes called the fourth state of matter. The behavior of plasma is quite unlike those of solids, liquids, and gases. In nature, plasmas are usually found in gas-like clouds, as in the case of interstellar nebulae. Other examples of plasmas include ball lightning and the phenomenon of the aurora borealis.

The increase in incoming interstellar plasma, Dmitriev suggests, is dramatically impacting the behavior of our sun and its solar system. "Strong evidence exists that these transformations are being caused by highly charged material (in) interstellar space which have broken into the interplanetary area of our solar system," Dmitriev wrote in 1997.

 

Changes in Interstellar Space

For much of the twentieth century, space was visualized as a near vacuum. The astronomical reality, it is now being discovered, is actually quite different. Our solar system moves through something called the Local Interstellar Space Medium (LISM).

The LISM is not uniformly empty at all, but has greater and lesser amounts of plasmic flux density created by the presence of highly charged particles. The amount of energy within empty interstellar space is actually highly variable. Scientists are now coming to realize that space has more in common with our terrestrial oceans, with their complex tides and currents, than was previously recognized.

The quantity of plasma, in the form of ionized hydrogen, helium, and hydroxyl, that we encounter in the LISM is a critical variable for what happens in the wider behavior of our solar system. This increased influx of energy is the fundamental cause of the multiple magnetic and climatic changes that have recently been observed in the sun and across all of the planets. Dmitriev even goes as far as to say the consequence of the increase in this interstellar plasmic energy is far more important, in his opinion, than human greenhouse gas emissions are in the creation of our planet's current global warming crisis.

 

Changes in the Heliosphere

The heliosphere itself has exhibited a dramatic change in behavior over the last ten years. The transition through this increased plasma flux has expanded the heliosphere's bow shock wave in front of the solar system more than ten-fold. Dmitriev gives an extensive catalogue of changes he claims this has caused within the solar system.

 

Recent Planetary Changes

--Significant physical, chemical, and optical changes observed on Venus; an inversion of dark and light spots detected for the first time and a sharp decrease of sulfur-containing gases in its atmosphere.

--The first stages of atmosphere generation on the Moon, where a growing sodium-based atmosphere that reaches 5,500 miles in height has been detected.

--Changes in the atmosphere of Mars, including a cloudy growth in the equatorial region and unusual growth in ozone concentration.

--Significant melting of the Martian polar ice caps.

--A doubling of the magnetic field intensity on Jupiter after the series of impacts from the fragments of the Shoemaker-Levy comet in 1994; also, the appearance of large auroral anomalies, excessive plasma generation, and radiation belt brightening.

--The creation of an ionic flux tube between Jupiter and the volcanic regions of its moon, Io. This stream of plasma is millions of miles in length and is 1 million amperes in strength. It is affecting Jupiter's magnetic field and intensifying its plasma genesis.

--Reporting of auroras and a visible increase in brightness on Saturn.

--Abrupt large-scale growth of magnetosphere intensity and an increase in brightness on Uranus.

--A change in light intensity and light-spot dynamics on Neptune.

--A growth of dark spots on Pluto.

 

Dmitriev notes that Uranus and Neptune, which are magnetically conjugate planets, have both undergone magnetic pole shifts in recent decades. Earth is magnetically conjugate to Jupiter, so he theorizes that the dramatic changes on Jupiter could well have consequences for our planet.

The claim of a direct causal link between the increase in plasma entering the solar system and recent planetary changes is still very controversial, but Dmitriev's research is quite comprehensive and is backed up with extensive scientific references. It seems likely that the increase in this cosmic energy does have some role to play in influencing climate, but it may be one of many contributing factors, rather than a sole cause. Dmitriev himself points out that planetary changes are complex affairs with many interdependent factors. It is the total sum of all these influences that actually determines what happens.

 

Changes to the Sun

There have also been some recent dramatic changes to the sun. The Ulysses spacecraft sent by NASA to measure the magnetic field of the sun found the magnetic fields of the poles enormously diminished. The magnetic poles of the sun usually reverse at the end of an eleven-year sunspot cycle. At the end of the most recent cycle, the poles only moved to the sun's equator and did not completely invert. This behavior alters everything that was previously believed about the sun's magnetic field. Effectively, the sun no longer has a single north or south magnetic pole; instead, it has four poles located in the equatorial regions.

The data gathered by the Ulysses spacecraft showed that the sun's magnetic field interacts with the rest of the solar system in a much more complex fashion than previously believed. NASA scientists determined that the polar magnetic field is much weaker than previously observed and the amount of cosmic dust entering the solar system is thirty times more than expected."

 

I have a plasma tv. Am I contributing to our impending downfall ?? If I am....well, I'm sorry folks.

[Park Life 70]

[Kevin 1]

My da's already building an arc to hold 400,000 people, I could take some of you I guess.

[Guest Stevie]

His latest book, Physics of the Impossible, examines the technologies of invisibility, teleportation, precognition, star ships, antimatter engines, time travel and more

 

[Renton 17797]

Michio Kaku seems to be on loads of TV documentaries nowadays, he seems to have sold out and stopped being a credible scientist. He popularises sceince though so I don't hold that against him.

 

These end of the world predicitions get tiresome after a while. I agree with Stevie that the chances of it coinciding with our own generation are pretty remote, it seems to me to be a typical case of arrogance and self-importance that we will see the End days. I'm willing to bet anyone a thousand quid at odds of a million to 1 that 2012 will not be the end of the world if anyone fancies it.

[NJS 3981]

Michio Kaku seems to be on loads of TV documentaries nowadays, he seems to have sold out and stopped being a credible scientist. He popularises sceince though so I don't hold that against him.

 

 

I read one of his books and found it a bit too speculatative though still interesting - not as good as Brian Greene's though.

 

 

These end of the world predicitions get tiresome after a while. I agree with Stevie that the chances of it coinciding with our own generation are pretty remote, it seems to me to be a typical case of arrogance and self-importance that we will see the End days. I'm willing to bet anyone a thousand quid at odds of a million to 1 that 2012 will not be the end of the world if anyone fancies it.

 

Another classic arrogance of US Christians is how many think the rapture will occur in their lifetimes - it's obvious that the bible expected the return of JC and the subsequent armageddon within a few decades at most of those events so the idea of just about 2000 years being the right time is pretty daft.

[Park Life 70]

Michio Kaku seems to be on loads of TV documentaries nowadays, he seems to have sold out and stopped being a credible scientist. He popularises sceince though so I don't hold that against him.

 

 

I read one of his books and found it a bit too speculatative though still interesting - not as good as Brian Greene's though.

 

 

These end of the world predicitions get tiresome after a while. I agree with Stevie that the chances of it coinciding with our own generation are pretty remote, it seems to me to be a typical case of arrogance and self-importance that we will see the End days. I'm willing to bet anyone a thousand quid at odds of a million to 1 that 2012 will not be the end of the world if anyone fancies it.

 

Another classic arrogance of US Christians is how many think the rapture will occur in their lifetimes - it's obvious that the bible expected the return of JC and the subsequent armageddon within a few decades at most of those events so the idea of just about 2000 years being the right time is pretty daft.

 

What was the timeline in the bible?

[Rob W 0]

Right through history people have spoken about the end of the world, but the worlds not going to end for 2 billion years is it when the sun will swallow it up, but the way we talk about the end of the world we mean, the end of the human race as a functional force.

 

There have been 600,000 predictions about what we mean by the end of the world, all of them to date, have been wrong. I think the December 21st 2012 has more supporters than any of them, primarily because it coincides with the end of the Mayan calendar and other unconnected calendars in Asia. It could just be a coincidence, or maybe not and it means fuck all.

 

I don't want to sound depressive here, because I'm happy go lucky most of the time, but I reckon it will be a miracle if we are still here in 150 years time.

• Global warming, if it continues as it is and the best case scenario the forecasters are looking at a 2C increase in 80 years, well we're all likely to be fucked anyway
  
• Food shortages will get worse as the climate goes up, and there's every indication if current trends continue the population will be double what it is now when there is already a global food shortage
  
• Human nature to be the strongest, to dominate, and to fight
  
• More sophisticated terrorism devices which will surely be 100 times more frightening in thirty years time
  
• Nuclear war, an inevitability as long as rogue states like Iran exist, and cunts like America try to police the world
  

It's bleak as fuck, and I can't see the toon winning anything in the next 50 years so am fucked. I think all these conspiracy theorists believe the top jews in the world and the perhaps non existent illuminati, realise that we have odds stacked against us as a race, and the only way is a new world order, and one government. I think they're right as well.

 

We line up with the black hole at the center of our galaxy at the end of 2012. The planet will be hit by some kind of radiation/electromagnetic sea at that point which wipes away our own magnetic field which protects us from our sun.

 

Christ! he's been talking to the elves again................

 

If the Black hole is in the centre of our galaxy, elf-meister, we're ALWAYS aligned with it.......... no????

[ChezGiven 0]

 

Good point Rob.

[Park Life 70]

[Park Life 70]

Beeb:

 

There is a giant black hole at the centre of our galaxy, a 16-year study by German astronomers has confirmed.

 

They tracked the movement of 28 stars circling the centre of the Milky Way, using two telescopes in Chile.

 

The black hole, said to be 27,000 light years from Earth, is four million times bigger than the Sun, according to the paper in The Astrophysical Journal.

 

Black holes are objects whose gravity is so great that nothing - including light - can escape them.

 

According to Dr Robert Massey, of the Royal Astronomical Society (RAS), the results suggest that galaxies form around giant black holes in the way that a pearl forms around grit.

 

'The black pearl'

 

Dr Massey said: "Although we think of black holes as somehow threatening, in the sense that if you get too close to one you are in trouble, they may have had a role in helping galaxies to form - not just our own, but all galaxies

Edited January 25, 2010 by Park Life

[Renton 17797]

I don't think there is any dispute that there is a black hole at the centre of our galaxy. But, given our distance away from it, and the inverse square rule, its effect on us will be neglible.

[Anth 54]

Canny documentary about the blackhole at the centre of the milky way

Monster of the Milky Way

[Park Life 70]

I don't think there is any dispute that there is a black hole at the centre of our galaxy. But, given our distance away from it, and the inverse square rule, its effect on us will be neglible.

 

If we are moving into the pattern then there will be another major earthquake this year...:Probs Hawaii area or Japan. Hope not obviously.

Edited January 25, 2010 by Park Life

[Ayatollah Hermione 12767]

Right through history people have spoken about the end of the world, but the worlds not going to end for 2 billion years is it when the sun will swallow it up, but the way we talk about the end of the world we mean, the end of the human race as a functional force.

 

There have been 600,000 predictions about what we mean by the end of the world, all of them to date, have been wrong. I think the December 21st 2012 has more supporters than any of them, primarily because it coincides with the end of the Mayan calendar and other unconnected calendars in Asia. It could just be a coincidence, or maybe not and it means fuck all.

 

I don't want to sound depressive here, because I'm happy go lucky most of the time, but I reckon it will be a miracle if we are still here in 150 years time.

• Global warming, if it continues as it is and the best case scenario the forecasters are looking at a 2C increase in 80 years, well we're all likely to be fucked anyway
  
• Food shortages will get worse as the climate goes up, and there's every indication if current trends continue the population will be double what it is now when there is already a global food shortage
  
• Human nature to be the strongest, to dominate, and to fight
  
• More sophisticated terrorism devices which will surely be 100 times more frightening in thirty years time
  
• Nuclear war, an inevitability as long as rogue states like Iran exist, and cunts like America try to police the world
  

It's bleak as fuck, and I can't see the toon winning anything in the next 50 years so am fucked. I think all these conspiracy theorists believe the top jews in the world and the perhaps non existent illuminati, realise that we have odds stacked against us as a race, and the only way is a new world order, and one government. I think they're right as well.

 

We line up with the black hole at the center of our galaxy at the end of 2012. The planet will be hit by some kind of radiation/electromagnetic sea at that point which wipes away our own magnetic field which protects us from our sun.

I think them cowies were even better than what I had.

 

NJS Stephen Hawking said that. The only way we can move on is if 80% of the population of the world die, and we start being more sensible.

 

It will happen. It's some kind of solar wind that hits us every 48,000 years. All electrical and electomagnetic things will be fucked for ever. Any digital data will be wiped etc...Mob phones, planes, cars with computers, pacemakers, computer controlled machines of any kind will be fuked. If you want to save your laptop you'll have to bury it in a lead box.

They've already got technology which protects electrical equipment from a hypothetical electromagnetic pulse, which the Russians would use in a nuclear war. What they'd do is detonate a nuke 100 miles above a country, basically frying every electrical circuit, but they've been able to counter that and some electrical equipment is protected, so it would be from that too. At least there'd be a boom in the electrical trade if I'm wrong.

 

The solar radiation coming at us without our electormagnetic (van allen belt) will fry anything walking....There is no protection against that, that I know of unless everyone will be given a space suit or summat. Tiny amount of this radiation gives you fast breeding cancer.

Well how come humans survived 48,000 years ago?

 

That's classified. :nufc:

 

It's the strong evidence for your points that I like so much

[Renton 17797]

I don't think there is any dispute that there is a black hole at the centre of our galaxy. But, given our distance away from it, and the inverse square rule, its effect on us will be neglible.

 

If we are moving into the pattern then there will be another major earthquake this year...:Probs Hawaii area or Japan. Hope not obviously.

 

Both are in areas known to be prone to Earthquakes so it will hardly be surprising if there's an quake in either Japan or Hawaii man. What's this got to do with Black holes again?

[@yourservice 67]

I don't think there is any dispute that there is a black hole at the centre of our galaxy. But, given our distance away from it, and the inverse square rule, its effect on us will be neglible.

 

If we are moving into the pattern then there will be another major earthquake this year...:Probs Hawaii area or Japan. Hope not obviously.

 

Both are in areas known to be prone to Earthquakes so it will hardly be surprising if there's an quake in either Japan or Hawaii man. What's this got to do with Black holes again?

 

It's a gradual thing innit, being sucked into one and the things that will happen won't happen straight away

 

Edited January 25, 2010 by @yourservice

[Park Life 70]

I don't think there is any dispute that there is a black hole at the centre of our galaxy. But, given our distance away from it, and the inverse square rule, its effect on us will be neglible.

 

If we are moving into the pattern then there will be another major earthquake this year...:Probs Hawaii area or Japan. Hope not obviously.

 

Both are in areas known to be prone to Earthquakes so it will hardly be surprising if there's an quake in either Japan or Hawaii man. What's this got to do with Black holes again?

 

I know they are cause earthquakes happen in fault regions muppet.

 

I don't really understand what they have to do with moving into line with the galactic center. High magnetic/plasmic outpourings in the universe is a fairly recent discouvery it ain't just a vacum as we used to think, it's full of gas and whatnot as well...There are theories to do with magnetic shifts (our planet is filled with iron which is fuking big magnet) and the knock on effects on tectonics. Again I'm not really sure what these connections in reality and whether it will be as bad in 2012 as some are making out. Hope not. IF there is another major quake/tsunami this year the signs will not look good as this stuff they say will accelarate in frequency.

[Renton 17797]

I don't think there is any dispute that there is a black hole at the centre of our galaxy. But, given our distance away from it, and the inverse square rule, its effect on us will be neglible.

 

If we are moving into the pattern then there will be another major earthquake this year...:Probs Hawaii area or Japan. Hope not obviously.

 

Both are in areas known to be prone to Earthquakes so it will hardly be surprising if there's an quake in either Japan or Hawaii man. What's this got to do with Black holes again?

 

I know they are cause earthquakes happen in fault regions muppet.

 

I don't really understand what they have to do with moving into line with the galactic center. High magnetic/plasmic outpourings in the universe is a fairly recent discouvery it ain't just a vacum as we used to think, it's full of gas and whatnot as well...There are theories to do with magnetic shifts (our planet is filled with iron which is fuking big magnet) and the knock on effects on tectonics. Again I'm not really sure what these connections in reality and whether it will be as bad in 2012 as some are making out. Hope not. IF there is another major quake/tsunami this year the signs will not look good as this stuff they say will accelarate in frequency.

 

Earthquakes are well understood and to do with plate tectonics, basically friction caused by the plates rubbing against each other. Nowt to with space at all. If a big one happens next year it will prove nowt. They've been happening for billions of years and will continue for another 5 billion until the sun swallows the Earth. Like I said before, this smacks of over self importance that we are significant and live in the End days. We're not and we don't.

[Park Life 70]

The whole universe is only a vibration. The levels things vibrate at dictate their state as types of matter. The higher the vibration the less solid. A neutrino for instance flits between being there and not being there (can't remember if it is indeed a neutrion)..Our comprehension of the universe and the way we see it in some way dictates what it is and more importantly what it can be. Think of the galactic center and the electromagnetic waves coming from it as a telephone call...a vibration.