Oil Spill- at least it doesn't interefere with my holidays

[Park Life 71]

[Park Life 71]

Due to toxic gases from the fractured oil well in the Gulf of Mexico, the possible off-gassing of the highly-toxic Corexit 9500 (the chemical dispersant used by BP in the oil spill clean-up), acid rain and various as-yet-unknown forms of environmental damage, we believe that the government will have no choice but to relocate millions of people away from the Gulf Coast. Those living in Florida are presently at the highest risk, but the danger also appears likely to spread to all Gulf Coast states east of Louisiana and possibly even to the entire Eastern half of the United States once hurricane season begins.

 

Greg Evensen, a retired Kansas Highway Patrolman, estimates that 30-40 million people would need to be evacuated away from the Gulf’s coastline (i.e. at least 200 miles inland). In order to accomplish this gargantuan feat, the federal government (through FEMA and other agencies) would most likely seek first to control and manage the transportation system and then operate relocation centers to manage evacuees. Toward this end, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has already declared the airspace over the oil spill site to be a no-fly zone until further notice. Various sources have indicated that local police, highway patrol, National Guard, US military and foreign troops may be involved in an operation to evacuate the Gulf Coast. In fact, the Governor of Louisiana has already requested evacuation assistance (i.e. National Guard) for his state from the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

 

Those living inland may also be at risk, since the movement of vast numbers of evacuees would cause a significant strain on local resources. In other words, inlanders should not expect life to continue “as normal,” since, under a martial law scenario, the government would have the power and the motivation to seize everyday necessities, such as: food, water, fuel, housing, etc. Some have also suggested that if a hurricane were to occur over the oil spill area itself, lightning might possibly ignite volatile organic compounds, not to mention the acid rain clouds that could form and be carried inland (i.e. acid rain could pollute the water table, destroy crops, kill wildlife and pose significant health risks to humans in the southern and eastern states.)

[Park Life 71]

Access denied to news media...

 

 

[peasepud 59]

Didnt BP fund 9/11 as well?

[Park Life 71]

TOP KILL - FAILS:

 

When I said in my first post "Pray this works" I meant it, it didn't work. This was probably our best and only chance to kill this well from the top down. This "kill mud" is a tried and true method of killing wells and usually has a very good chance of success. The depth of this well presented some logistical challenges, but it really should not of presented any functional obstructions. The pumping capacity was there and it would have worked, should have worked, but it didn't.

 

It didn't work, but it did create evidence of what is really happening. First of all the method used in this particular top kill made no sense, did not follow the standard operating procedure used to kill many other wells and in fact for the most part was completely contrary to the procedure which would have given it any real chance of working.

 

When a well is "Killed" using this method heavy drill fluid "Mud" is pumped at high volume and pressure into a leaking well. The leaks are "behind" the point of access where the mud is fired in, in this case the "choke and Kill lines" which are at the very bottom of the BOP (Blow Out Preventer) The heavy fluid gathers in the "behind" portion of the leaking well assembly, while some will leak out, it very quickly overtakes the flow of oil and only the heavier mud will leak out. Once that "solid" flow of mud is established at the leak "behind" the well, the mud pumps increase pressure and begin to overtake the pressure of the oil deposit. The mud is established in a solid column that is driven downward by the now stronger pumps. The heavy mud will create a solid column that is so heavy that the oil deposit can no longer push it up, shut off the pumps...the well is killed...it can no longer flow.

 

Usually this will happen fairly quickly, in fact for it to work at all...it must happen quickly. There is no "trickle some mud in" because that is not how a top kill works. The flowing oil will just flush out the trickle and a solid column will never be established. Yet what we were told was "It will take days to know whether it

worked"...."Top kill might take 48 hours to complete"...the only way it could take days is if BP intended to do some "test fires" to test integrity of the entire system. The actual "kill" can only take hours by nature because it must happen fairly rapidly. It also increases strain on the "behind" portion and in this instance we all know that what remained was fragile at best.

 

Early that afternoon we saw a massive flow burst out of the riser "plume" area. This was the first test fire of high pressure mud injection. Later on same day we saw a greatly increased flow out of the kink leaks, this was mostly mud at that time as the kill mud is tanish color due to the high amount of Barite which is added to it to weight it and Barite is a white powder. Here is what Barite looks like:

 

[link to www.ecplaza.net]

 

We later learned the pumping was shut down at midnight, we weren't told about that until almost 16 hours later, but by then...I'm sure BP had learned the worst. The mud they were pumping in was not only leaking out the "behind" leaks...it was leaking out of someplace forward...and since they were not even near being able to pump mud into the deposit itself, because the well would be dead long before...and the oil was still coming up, there could only be one conclusion...the wells casings were ruptured and it was leaking "down hole"

 

They tried the "Junk shot"...the "bridging materials" which also failed and likely made things worse in regards to the ruptured well casings.

 

"Despite successfully pumping a total of over 30,000 barrels of heavy mud, in three attempts at rates of up to

80 barrels a minute, and deploying a wide range of different bridging materials, the operation did not overcome the flow from the well."

 

[link to www.bp.com]

 

80 Barrels per minute is over 200,000 gallons per hour, over 115,000 barrels per day...did we seen an increase over and above what was already leaking out of 115k bpd?....we did not...it would have been a massive increase in order of multiples and this did not happen.

 

"The whole purpose is to get the kill mud down,” said Wells. “We'll have 50,000 barrels of mud on hand to kill this well. It's far more than necessary, but we always like to have backup."

 

Try finding THAT quote around...it's been scrubbed...here's a cached copy of a quote...

 

[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]

 

Dead search results a plenty.

 

[link to www.google.com]

 

"The "top kill" effort, launched Wednesday afternoon by industry and government engineers, had pumped enough drilling fluid to block oil and gas spewing from the well, Allen said. The pressure from the well was very low, he said, but persisting."

 

"Allen said one ship that was pumping fluid into the well had run out of the fluid, or "mud," and that a second ship was on the way. He said he was encouraged by the progress."

 

[link to www.houmatoday.com]

 

Later we found out that Allen had no idea what was really going on and had been "Unavailable all day"

 

[link to www.realclearpolitics.com]

 

So what we had was BP running out of 50,000 barrels of mud in a very short period of time. An amount far and above what they deemed necessary to kill the well. Shutting down pumping 16 hours before telling anyone, including the president. We were never really given a clear reason why "Top Kill" failed, just that it couldn't overcome the well.

 

There is only one article anywhere that says anything else about it at this time of writing...and it's a relatively obscure article from the wall street journal "online" citing an unnamed source.

 

"WASHINGTON—BP PLC has concluded that its "top-kill" attempt last week to seal its broken well in the Gulf of

Mexico may have failed due to a malfunctioning disk inside the well about 1,000 feet below the ocean floor.

 

The disk, part of the subsea safety infrastructure, may have ruptured during the surge of oil and gas up the well on April 20 that led to the explosion aboard the Deepwater Horizon rig, BP officials said. The rig sank two days later, triggering a leak that has since become the worst in U.S. history.

 

The broken disk may have prevented the heavy drilling mud injected into the well last week from getting far enough down the well to overcome the pressure from the escaping oil and gas, people familiar with BP's findings said. They said much of the drilling mud may also have escaped from the well into the rock formation outside the wellbore.

 

As a result, BP wasn't able to get sufficient pressure to keep the oil and gas at bay. If they had been able to build up sufficient pressure, the company had hoped to pump in cement and seal off the well. The effort was deemed a failure on Saturday.

 

BP started the top-kill effort Wednesday afternoon, shooting heavy drilling fluids into the broken valve known as a blowout preventer. The mud was driven by a 30,000 horsepower pump installed on a ship at the surface. But it was clear from the start that a lot of the "kill mud" was leaking out instead of going down into the well."

 

[link to online.wsj.com]

 

There are some inconsistencies with this article.

There are no "Disks" or "Subsea safety structure" 1,000 feet below the sea floor, all that is there is well bore. There is nothing that can allow the mud or oil to "escape" into the rock formation outside the well bore except the well, because it is the only thing there.

 

All the actions and few tid bits of information all lead to one inescapable conclusion. The well pipes below the sea floor are broken and leaking. Now you have some real data of how BP's actions are evidence of that, as well as some murky statement from "BP officials" confirming the same.

 

I took some time to go into a bit of detail concerning the failure of Top Kill because this was a significant event. To those of us outside the real inside loop, yet still fairly knowledgeable, it was a major confirmation of what many feared. That the system below the sea floor has serious failures of varying magnitude in the complicated chain, and it is breaking down and it will continue to.

 

What does this mean?

 

It means they will never cap the gusher after the wellhead. They cannot...the more they try and restrict the oil gushing out the bop?...the more it will transfer to the leaks below. Just like a leaky garden hose with a nozzle on it. When you open up the nozzle?...it doesn't leak so bad, you close the nozzle?...it leaks real bad,

same dynamics. It is why they sawed the riser off...or tried to anyway...but they clipped it off, to relieve pressure on the leaks "down hole". I'm sure there was a bit of panic time after they crimp/pinched off the large riser pipe and the Diamond wire saw got stuck and failed...because that crimp diverted pressure and flow to the rupture down below.

 

Contrary to what most of us would think as logical to stop the oil mess, actually opening up the gushing well and making it gush more became direction BP took after confirming that there was a leak. In fact if you note their actions, that should become clear. They have shifted from stopping or restricting the gusher to opening it up and catching it. This only makes sense if they want to relieve pressure at the leak hidden down below the seabed.....and that sort of leak is one of the most dangerous and potentially damaging kind of leak there could be. It is also inaccessible which compounds our problems. There is no way to stop that leak from above, all they can do is relieve the pressure on it and the only way to do that right now is to open up the nozzle above and gush more oil into the gulf and hopefully catch it, which they have done, they just neglected to tell us why, gee thanks.

 

A down hole leak is dangerous and damaging for several reasons.

There will be erosion throughout the entire beat up, beat on and beat down remainder of the "system" including that inaccessible leak. The same erosion I spoke about in the first post is still present and has never stopped, cannot be stopped, is impossible to stop and will always be present in and acting on anything that is left which has crude oil "Product" rushing through it. There are abrasives still present, swirling flow will create hot spots of wear and this erosion is relentless and will always be present until eventually it wears away enough material to break it's way out. It will slowly eat the bop away especially at the now pinched off riser head and it will flow more and more. Perhaps BP can outrun or keep up with that out flow with various suckage methods for a period of time, but eventually the well will win that race, just how long that race will be?...no one really knows....However now?...there are other problems that a down hole leak will and must produce that will compound this already bad situation.

 

This down hole leak will undermine the foundation of the seabed in and around the well area. It also weakens the only thing holding up the massive Blow Out Preventer's immense bulk of 450 tons. In fact?...we are beginning to the results of the well's total integrity beginning to fail due to the undermining being caused by the leaking well bore.

 

The first layer of the sea floor in the gulf is mostly lose material of sand and silt. It doesn't hold up anything and isn't meant to, what holds the entire subsea system of the Bop in place is the well itself. The very large steel connectors of the initial well head "spud" stabbed in to the sea floor. The Bop literally sits on top of the pipe and never touches the sea bed, it wouldn't do anything in way of support if it did. After several tens of feet the seabed does begin to support the well connection laterally (side to side) you couldn't put a 450 ton piece of machinery on top of a 100' tall pipe "in the air" and subject it to the side loads caused by the ocean currents and expect it not to bend over...unless that pipe was very much larger than the machine itself, which you all can see it is not. The well's piping in comparison is actually very much smaller than the Blow Out Preventer and strong as it may be, it relies on some support from the seabed to function and not literally fall over...and it is now showing signs of doing just that....falling over.

 

 

If you have been watching the live feed cams you may have noticed that some of the ROVs are using an inclinometer...and inclinometer is an instrument that measures "Incline" or tilt. The BOP is not supposed to be tilting...and after the riser clip off operation it has begun to...as evidenced in these pictures. I'm not going put in a lot of pics because this post is long enough already.

 

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undermin2

tiltincline

 

 

This is not the only problem that occurs due to erosion of the outer area of the well casings. The way a well casing assembly functions it that it is an assembly of different sized "tubes" that decrease in size as they go down. These tubes have a connection to each other that is not unlike a click or snap together locking action. After a certain length is assembled they are cemented around the ouside to the earth that the more rough drill hole is bored through in the well making process. A very well put together and simply explained process of "How to drill a deep water oil well" is availible here:

 

[link to www.treesfullofmoney.com]

 

The well bore casings rely on the support that is created by the cementing phase of well construction. Just like if you have many hands holding a pipe up you could put some weight on the top and the many hands could hold the pipe and the weight on top easily...but if there were no hands gripping and holding the pipe?...all the weight must be held up by the pipe alone. The series of connections between the sections of casings are not designed to hold up the immense weight of the BOP without all the "hands" that the cementing provides and they will eventually buckle and fail when stressed beyond their design limits.

 

These are clear and present dangers to the battered subsea safety structure (bop and lmrp) which is the only loose cork on this well we have left. The immediate (first 1,000 feet) of well structure that remains is now also undoubtedly compromised. However.....as bad as that is?...it is far from the only possible problems with this very problematic well. There were ongoing troubles with the entire process during the drilling of this well. There were also many comprises made by BP IMO which may have resulted in an overall weakened structure of the entire well system all the way to the bottom plug which is over 12,000 feet deep. Problems with the cementing procedure which was done by Haliburton and was deemed as “was against our best practices.” by a Haliburton employee on April 1st weeks before the well blew out. There is much more and I won't go into detail right now concerning the lower end of the well and the troubles encountered during the whole creation of this well and earlier "Well control" situations that were revieled in various internal BP e-mails. I will add several links to those documents and quotes from them below and for now, address the issues concerning the upper portion of the well and the region of the sea floor.

 

What is likely to happen now?

 

Well...none of what is likely to happen is good, in fact...it's about as bad as it gets. I am convinced the erosion and compromising of the entire system is accelerating and attacking more key structural areas of the well, the blow out preventer and surrounding strata holding it all up and together. This is evidenced by the tilt of the blow out preventer and the erosion which has exposed the well head connection. What eventually will happen is that the blow out preventer will literally tip over if they do not run supports to it as the currents push on it. I suspect they will run those supports as cables tied to anchors very soon, if they don't, they are inviting disaster that much sooner.

 

Eventually even that will be futile as the well casings cannot support the weight of the massive system above with out the cement bond to the earth and that bond is being eroded away. When enough is eroded away the casings will buckle and the BOP will collapse the well. If and when you begin to see oil and gas coming up around the well area from under the BOP? or the area around the well head connection and casing sinking more and more rapidly? ...it won't be too long after that the entire system fails. BP must be aware of this, they are mapping the sea floor sonically and that is not a mere exercise. Our Gov't must be well aware too, they just are not telling us.

 

All of these things lead to only one place, a fully wide open well bore directly to the oil deposit...after that, it goes into the realm of "the worst things you can think of" The well may come completely apart as the inner liners fail. There is still a very long drill string in the well, that could literally come flying out...as I said...all the worst things you can think of are a possibility, but the very least damaging outcome as bad as it is, is that we are stuck with a wide open gusher blowing out 150,000 barrels a day of raw oil or more. There isn't any "cap dome" or any other suck fixer device on earth that exists or could be built that will stop it from gushing out and doing more and more damage to the gulf. While at the same time also doing more damage to the well, making the chance of halting it with a kill from the bottom up less and less likely to work, which as it stands now?....is the only real chance we have left to stop it all.

 

It's a race now...a race to drill the relief wells and take our last chance at killing this monster before the whole weakened, wore out, blown out, leaking and failing system gives up it's last gasp in a horrific crescendo.

 

We are not even 2 months into it, barely half way by even optimistic estimates. The damage done by the leaked oil now is virtually immeasurable already and it will not get better, it can only get worse. No matter how much they can collect, there will still be thousands and thousands of gallons leaking out every minute, every hour of every day. We have 2 months left before the relief wells are even near in position and set up to take a kill shot and that is being optimistic as I said.

 

Over the next 2 months the mechanical situation also cannot improve, it can only get worse, getting better is an impossibility. While they may make some gains on collecting the leaked oil, the structural situation cannot heal itself. It will continue to erode and flow out more oil and eventually the inevitable collapse which cannot be stopped will happen. It is only a simple matter of who can "get there first"...us or the well.

 

We can only hope the race against that eventuality is one we can win, but my assessment I am sad to say is that we will not.

 

The system will collapse or fail substantially before we reach the finish line ahead of the well and the worst is yet to come.

 

Sorry to bring you that news, I know it is grim, but that is the way I see it....I sincerely hope I am wrong.

 

We need to prepare for the possibility of this blow out sending more oil into the gulf per week then what we already have now, because that is what a collapse of the system will cause. All the collection efforts that have captured oil will be erased in short order. The magnitude of this disaster will increase exponentially by the time we can do anything to halt it and our odds of actually even being able to halt it will go down.

 

The magnitude and impact of this disaster will eclipse anything we have known in our life times if the worst or even near worst happens...

[Park Life 71]

Didnt BP fund 9/11 as well?

 

It was Hitzfeld apparently.

[peasepud 59]

Didnt BP fund 9/11 as well?

 

It was Hitzfeld apparently.

 

Damned fine dossier though

[Park Life 71]

Once it gets into the gulf stream the whole planet and its delicate eco-system will be in danger, the leak is releasing an Exxon Valdez every 3 days...This is bad, real bad. But....from this something better many come.

 

Peace.

[ChezGiven 0]

I doubt it mate.

[Park Life 71]

This is the endgame...

 

 

What is likely to happen now?

 

"Well...none of what is likely to happen is good, in fact...it's about as bad as it gets. I am convinced the erosion and compromising of the entire system is accelerating and attacking more key structural areas of the well, the blow out preventer and surrounding strata holding it all up and together. This is evidenced by the tilt of the blow out preventer and the erosion which has exposed the well head connection. What eventually will happen is that the blow out preventer will literally tip over if they do not run supports to it as the currents push on it. I suspect they will run those supports as cables tied to anchors very soon, if they don't, they are inviting disaster that much sooner.

 

Eventually even that will be futile as the well casings cannot support the weight of the massive system above with out the cement bond to the earth and that bond is being eroded away. When enough is eroded away the casings will buckle and the BOP will collapse the well. If and when you begin to see oil and gas coming up around the well area from under the BOP? or the area around the well head connection and casing sinking more and more rapidly? ...it won't be too long after that the entire system fails. BP must be aware of this, they are mapping the sea floor sonically and that is not a mere exercise. Our Gov't must be well aware too, they just are not telling us."

[Jusoda Kid 1]

Wish i hadn't read this thread.

[Park Life 71]

As an aside a lot of the biggest UK pension funds are heavily into BP. They must have already taken a massive hit.

[Park Life 71]

#4) Marine toxicologist Dr. Susan Shaw, director of the Marine Environmental Research Institute on BP's use of chemical dispersants:

 

"They've been used at such a high volume that it's unprecedented. The worst of these – Corexit 9527 – is the one they've been using most. That ruptures red blood cells and causes fish to bleed. With 800,000 gallons of this, we can only imagine the death that will be caused."

 

#5) Dr. Larry McKinney, director of the Harte Research Institute for Gulf of Mexico Studies in Texas:

 

"Bluefin tuna spawn just south of the oil spill and they spawn only in the Gulf. If they were to go through the area at a critical time, that's one instance where a plume could destroy a whole species."

 

#6) Carol Browner, Barack Obama's adviser on energy and climate:

 

"This is probably the biggest environmental disaster we have ever faced in this country. It is certainly the biggest oil spill and we are responding with the biggest environmental response."

 

#7) Richard Charter of the Defenders of Wildlife:

 

"It is so big and expanding so fast that it's pretty much beyond human response that can be effective. ... You're looking at a long-term poisoning of the area. Ultimately, this will have a multidecade impact."

 

#8) Reverand Mike Tran:

 

"We don't know when this will ever be over. It's a way of life that's under assault, and people don't when their next paycheck is going to be."

 

#9) Louis Miller of the Mississippi Sierra Club:

 

"This is going to destroy the Mississippi and the Gulf Coast as we know it."

 

#10) Dean Blanchard, Oil-leak-an-environmental-crime owner of a seafood business:

 

"I hold Obama responsible for not making BP stand up and look at the people in the face and fix it."

 

#11) Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal:

 

"The day that we’ve been fearing is upon us."

 

#12) Billy Nungesser, president of Plaquemines Parish, about BP CEO Tony Hayward:

 

"We ought to take him offshore and dunk him 10 feet underwater and pull him up and ask him 'What's that all over your face?"

 

#13) Former Clinton adviser James Carville:

 

"The country feels like it's entitled to abuse this state and forget about us, and we are sick of it."

 

#14) An anonymous Louisiana resident:

"A hurricane is like closing your bank account for a few days, but this here has the capacity to destroy our bank accounts."

 

#15) U.S. Representative Edward Markey:

 

"I have no confidence whatsoever in BP . I think that they do not know what they are doing."

 

#16) Gulf coast resident Marie Michel:

 

"Immediately, it's no more fishing, no more crabbing, no more swimming, no more walking on the beach."

 

#17) Brenda Prosser of Mobile, Alabama:

 

"I just started crying. I couldn't quit crying. I'm shaking now. To know that our beach may be black or brown, or that we can't get in the water, it's so sad."

 

#18) Qin Chen, BP-oil-spill-could-make-Gulf-hurricane-season-devastating an associate professor of civil and environmental engineering at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge on the possibility that a hurricane could push massive amounts of oil ashore along the Gulf:

 

"A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico this year would be devastating."

 

#19) Retired Army General Russel Honore on the effect this spill is having on residents of the Gulf coast:

 

"I'm sure, every time they hear a negative word, their skin crawls, 'cause they need these jobs. ... This is what's going to put their kids in school, and what pays the rent."

 

#20) A group calling itself "Seize BP":

 

"The greatest environmental disaster with no end in sight! Eleven workers dead. Millions of gallons of oil gushing for months (and possibly years) to come. Jobs vanishing. Creatures dying. A pristine environment destroyed for generations. A mega-corporation that has lied and continues to lie, and a government that refuses to protect the people."

 

#21) Louisiania Governor Bobby Jindal:

 

"There has been failure, particularly with the effort to protect our coast and our marsh. And that was the biggest topic of discussion in a very frank meeting we had with the president."

 

#22) BP’s chief operating officer, Doug Suttles:

 

"This scares everybody — the fact that we can’t make this well stop flowing, the fact that we haven’t succeeded so far."

 

#23) Doug Rader, chief ocean scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund:

 

"You simply cannot make more (reefs), unless you have a few thousand years to wait."

 

#24) Public Service Commissioner Benjamin Stevens:

 

"You get hit by a hurricane and you can rebuild. But when that stuff washes up on the white sands of Pensacola Beach, you can't just go and get more white sand.''

 

#25) Wilma Subra, a chemist who has served as a consultant to the Environmental Protection Agency:

 

"Every time the wind blows from the south-east to the shore, people are being made sick."

 

#26) Hotel Owner Dodie Vegas:

 

"It's just going to kill us. It's going to destroy us."

 

#27) Louisiana resident Sean Lanier:

 

"Until they stop this leak, it's just like getting stabbed and the knife's still in you, and they're moving it around."

 

#28) White House energy adviser Carol Browner:

 

"There could be oil coming up until August."

 

#29) Marine toxicologist Dr. Susan Shaw, director of the Marine Environmental Research Institute:

 

"We'll see dead bodies soon. Sharks, dolphins, sea turtles, whales: the impact on predators will be seen in a short time because the food web will be impacted from the bottom up."

 

#30) Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser:

 

"We will die a slow death over the next two years as this oil creeps ashore."

[ChezGiven 0]

I have no idea what sort of a world my daughter will grow up in. No matter what opinion you might have on that, this is still an horrendous event of global proportions.

[Happy Face 29]

Once it gets into the gulf stream the whole planet and its delicate eco-system will be in danger, the leak is releasing an Exxon Valdez every 3 days...This is bad, real bad. But....from this something better many come.

 

Peace.

 

I thought that had to be over-egging, so I checked and it's actually conservative.

 

EV spilled 250,000 barrels in total.

 

This leak is up to 100,000 barrels every day.

 

It's been going 83 days so it's already over 30 times as bad as the EV spill.

 

[Happy Face 29]

Still only the 3rd worst spill on record like.

[Park Life 71]

Still only the 3rd worst spill on record like.

 

Yes but I don't think they'll be able to stop it anytime soon, about 2 months till the relief platforms are in place. I have a bad feeling about this.

[Toonpack 7243]

Still only the 3rd worst spill on record like.

 

Yes but I don't think they'll be able to stop it anytime soon, about 2 months till the relief platforms are in place. I have a bad feeling about this.

 

The relief wells won't stop it though, they'll just reduce the pressure, it'll still be leaking.

[Park Life 71]

Still only the 3rd worst spill on record like.

 

Yes but I don't think they'll be able to stop it anytime soon, about 2 months till the relief platforms are in place. I have a bad feeling about this.

 

The relief wells won't stop it though, they'll just reduce the pressure, it'll still be leaking.

 

That'st true but they will syphon off as much as possible ie less getting out of the main ruptures. I agree it is still a bit pissing in the wind styleee.

[ChezGiven 0]

Exxon are going to bid 100bn for BP.

 

Brilliant plan.

[Park Life 71]

Exxon are going to bid 100bn for BP.

 

Brilliant plan.

 

[ChezGiven 0]

Cant believe that more people arent getting upset about this.

 

Clearly Gazza needs to turn up with a bucket and spade saying 'I knew that Tony Hayward when i played for Newcastle....'

[Renton 18559]

Cant believe that more people arent getting upset about this.

 

Clearly Gazza needs to turn up with a bucket and spade saying 'I knew that Tony Hayward when i played for Newcastle....'

 

No use crying over spilt oil. Anyway, it might be a good thing in the longer term.

[ewerk 27300]

Still only the 3rd worst spill on record like.

 

Yes but I don't think they'll be able to stop it anytime soon, about 2 months till the relief platforms are in place. I have a bad feeling about this.

 

The relief wells won't stop it though, they'll just reduce the pressure, it'll still be leaking.

 

As I understand it, the relieft wells will stop the leak entirely by the end of August (if things go to plan).

[Toonpack 7243]

Still only the 3rd worst spill on record like.

 

Yes but I don't think they'll be able to stop it anytime soon, about 2 months till the relief platforms are in place. I have a bad feeling about this.

 

The relief wells won't stop it though, they'll just reduce the pressure, it'll still be leaking.

 

As I understand it, the relieft wells will stop the leak entirely by the end of August (if things go to plan).

 

Don't see how they can unless they are drilling into the existing well sideways from a distance and redirecting the flow. It's like having a giant balloon with a hole in it, making two new holes isn't going to stop the air escaping from the original hole, sort of.