manc-mag 1 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 aye...and in a nutshell why it's absolutely pointless 'debating' with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 aye...and in a nutshell why it's absolutely pointless 'debating' with him. it certainly is when you are made to look an utter tit as you have just been made. Still, I'm sure that you will continue to insist you know best though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share Posted September 1, 2011 As someone mentioned it in the deadline thread, I'll maintain this opening post as a go-to reference. Corrections gratefully received. Summer 2007 Out Alan O'Brien -£200,000 Scott Parker -£7,000,000 Albert Luque -£1,000,000 Kieron Dyer -£6,000,000 Nolberto Solano -£500,000 Paul Huntington -£500,000 In Joey Barton £5,800,000 Abdoulaye Faye £2,000,000 Alan Smith £6,000,000 Habib Beye £2,000,000 Jose Enrique £6,000,000 David Rozenhal £3,100,000 Total = £9.7 million spend January 2008 Out none In Fabio Zamblera £300,000 Total = £300K spend Summer 2008 Out David Rozehnal -£2,900,000 Emre -£2,000,000 Abdoulaye Faye -£2,250,000 James Milner -£12,000,000 In Danny Guthrie £2,500,000 Jonas Gutierrez £5,200,000 Fabricio Coloccini £9,100,000 Francisco Jiminez Tejada "Xisco" £5,000,000 Total = £2.65 Million spend January 2009 Out Charles N'Zogbia -£6,000,000 Shay Given -£8,000,000 In Kevin Nolan £4,000,000 Total = £10 Million net inflow Summer 2009 Out Obafemi Martins -£9,000,000 Damien Duff -£2,500,000 Habib Beye -£2,000,000 Sebastien Bassong -£8,000,000 In None Total = £21.5 million net inflow January 2010 Out None In Danny Simpson £1,000,000 Wayne Routledge £1,000,000 Mike Williamson £1,000,000 Leon Best £1,000,000 Total = £4 million spend Summer 2010 Out None In James Perch £1,000,000 Cheick Tiote £3,500,000 Total = £4.5 Million Spend January 2011 Out Andy Carroll -£35,000,000 In Hatem Ben Arfa £5,750,000 Total = £29.25 Million net inflow Summer 2011 Out Kevin Nolan -£4,000,000 Wayne Routledge -£2,000,000 Jose Enrique -£6,000,000 In Yohan Cabaye £4,300,000 Gabriel Obertan £3,250,000 Rob Elliot £100,000 Davide Santon £5,000,000 Total = £350k spend GRAND TOTAL = £39.25 Million net inflow Not compared and contrasted with the pic above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Burtons Grandad 0 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Tbh i don't really think Ashley's looking at players to improve the team in places we need. He seems to be going for players who have a minimum fee release clause/frees. So I'm expecting more players to come in, and plug gaps that we dont have or players we dont need. Ba - free Marveaux - free Cabaye - £4.3 million release clause N - Taylor £1000000+ release clause (although I realise we never signed him, we went in and we re close to getting him) I really don't think we'd have signed these players if we had to pay a fee or larger fee for them good summing up. In other words, using the club to buy cheap, and sell on. A selling club. Thing is its Ashley's business ethic, just look at how he runs Sports Direct. Buy cheap and flog it on for a profit, why oh why some people here think he will run NUFC any differently from his other business's beats the shit out of me. Thing is he already has done it differently. When he first came in he spunked money on players as well as the next playboy owner. That isn't to say he'll do it that way again necessarily, but your point is contradictory in that NUFC has already been shown to be the very enterprise in which he has departed from his 'normal business ethic'. Hmm don't think so bonny lad. In Summer 2007 FCB had a net spend of around £8/9M but has spent fuck all in any transfer window since and his transfer dealings show a net profit of over £40m. How that equates to "spunking money on players" defeats me. Transfer profits are fine as long as they do not weaken the team, well the Fat Cunt has certainly done that this year. Or do you think Demba "Dodgy Knee" Ba is better than Andy Carroll? I notice we have now seemingly pulled out of signing another new striker so FCB obviously thinks he has spent enough this window. So much for the Bullshit from Parsnip and Lambs arse. Amazing that some people actually believe it. exactly. Can't help but laugh at phrases like "spunking money" when we were playing regularly in europe and raising the revenue ie 14th biggest in football, to justify it. Mike Ashley's alternative obviously reaps better rewards, in the eyes of some fools anyway. Interestingly (and you'll forgive me for this but I am a stickler for logic), if you use net transfer profit as evidence of him 'pocketing the cash', then a net transfer spend has to be evidence of the opposite approach. Which is basically all I was saying. I'm already well aware you fail to follow logical thought processes in even their most basic expression though, so we'll just leave that one there. Ok then Mr Logic explain to me how making over £40 Million profit in transfer sales equates to a net Transfer spend. The clue is in the word "Profit"; there is no net Transfer spend. If you need me to put that in even simpler terms then you are indeed a truly thick fuck it would appear that "Mr Logic" is indeed a truly thick fuck I literally don't expect your brain to be functioning after reading that far Leazes so I'll just ignore whatever point you're trying to make. Nothing presented in that transaction contradicts the point I was making. It's just an obsession basically at the risk re-stating the obvious. The point was that you are a "truly thick fuck" your inability to realize it simply confirms it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 exactly. Can't help but laugh at phrases like "spunking money" when we were playing regularly in europe and raising the revenue ie 14th biggest in football, to justify it. Mike Ashley's alternative obviously reaps better rewards, in the eyes of some fools anyway. Interestingly (and you'll forgive me for this but I am a stickler for logic), if you use net transfer profit as evidence of him 'pocketing the cash', then a net transfer spend has to be evidence of the opposite approach. Which is basically all I was saying. I'm already well aware you fail to follow logical thought processes in even their most basic expression though, so we'll just leave that one there. Ok then Mr Logic explain to me how making over £40 Million profit in transfer sales equates to a net Transfer spend. The clue is in the word "Profit"; there is no net Transfer spend. If you need me to put that in even simpler terms then you are indeed a truly thick fuck it would appear that "Mr Logic" is indeed a truly thick fuck I literally don't expect your brain to be functioning after reading that far Leazes so I'll just ignore whatever point you're trying to make. Nothing presented in that transaction contradicts the point I was making. It's just an obsession basically at the risk re-stating the obvious. The point was that you are a "truly thick fuck" your inability to realize it simply confirms it. Slowly but surely more people are realising what the likes of mancmag won't admit to........recent posts in other threads by posters like Matt and Chez are being phrased in "accountancy" terms, and pointing towards the very conclusion that has been pointed out by myself, you and others in the past, but the likes of mancmag are intelligent chaps man and can't possibly be inferior to people like us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Ollie, tell me which part of my post was in error please. Where you stated that: "why oh why some people here think he will run NUFC any differently from his other business's beats the shit out of me" I then made the limited point that in fact it was precisely with NUFC that he had shown a departure from his 'normal business ethic'. I stated there were periods where (on transfers) he had spent more than he had taken in. You then explicitly agreed with this statement "In Summer 2007 FCB had a net spend of around £8/9M". At no stage did I say he had done that since or was doing it now. The maths on that are patently obvious. In fact I specifically made the point that I wasn't saying he'd record a net spend again "That isn't to say he'll do it that way again necessarily" I simply, quite correctly, qualified your initial point. Read the thing sequentially and look at exactly what I'm saying. Leazes is actually incapable of making any sense so try not to spunk yourself about having him as a cheerleader. Identify exactly what you think I said which was incorrect or STFU. Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 where are all your wigs and hammers now lawman? I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG, ADMIT IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 where are all your wigs and hammers now lawman? I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG, ADMIT IT Fucking shambles the pair of them. I'm not even going to bother responding to Leazes like; not worth the powder and shot these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Ollie, tell me which part of my post was in error please. Where you stated that: "why oh why some people here think he will run NUFC any differently from his other business's beats the shit out of me" I then made the limited point that in fact it was precisely with NUFC that he had shown a departure from his 'normal business ethic'. I stated there were periods where (on transfers) he had spent more than he had taken in. You then explicitly agreed with this statement "In Summer 2007 FCB had a net spend of around £8/9M". At no stage did I say he had done that since or was doing it now. The maths on that are patently obvious. In fact I specifically made the point that I wasn't saying he'd record a net spend again "That isn't to say he'll do it that way again necessarily" I simply, quite correctly, qualified your initial point. Read the thing sequentially and look at exactly what I'm saying. Leazes is actually incapable of making any sense so try not to spunk yourself about having him as a cheerleader. Identify exactly what you think I said which was incorrect or STFU. Ta. mancmag in denial mode again. What a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 You can answer the question for him if you like, it doesn't require personal knowledge, just a logical thought process. I won't hold my breath like obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35459 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 You can answer the question for him if you like, it doesn't require personal knowledge, just a logical thought process. I won't hold my breath like obviously. logical thought process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 You can answer the question for him if you like, it doesn't require personal knowledge, just a logical thought process. I won't hold my breath like obviously. logical thought process indeed. Having the 5th most qualified team for Champions League, and european spots over a period of 15 years, building up the club from 1 foot in the 3rd division, expanding the stadium from a cow shed into one of the biggest and best in europe, leaving the club with the 14th biggest revenues in world football, was all done with directors "with no plan", and "were hopeless", and "embarrassed us all", according to mancmag and others like him. Still, he knows best it's all a "logical thought process". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Burtons Grandad 0 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 You can answer the question for him if you like, it doesn't require personal knowledge, just a logical thought process. I won't hold my breath like obviously. Ok Mr Logic for the final time; FCB has not "spunked money" on players for NUFC, nor has he departed from his normal business ethic of buy em cheap and sell them on for a profit. He is currently looking at over £40M of profit on transfers since he took over. Fuck knows why you find this hard to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 You can answer the question for him if you like, it doesn't require personal knowledge, just a logical thought process. I won't hold my breath like obviously. Ok Mr Logic for the final time; FCB has not "spunked money" on players for NUFC, nor has he departed from his normal business ethic of buy em cheap and sell them on for a profit. He is currently looking at over £40M of profit on transfers since he took over. Fuck knows why you find this hard to understand. Nah, either quote my post (No. 758) and contradict it or stop giving it big licks you halfwit. You're not funny enough to be doing the diversion stuff posting daft pictures btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6321 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Crossed my mind last night - how do you think Ashley would have dealt with the Gullit / Shearer incident had he been running the club back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Getting rid of Shearer would've made money whereas getting rid of Gullit would've cost money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6321 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Getting rid of Shearer would've made money whereas getting rid of Gullit would've cost money ...which was exactly what I was thinking! Shearer simply would have never been offered another contract, would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 You can answer the question for him if you like, it doesn't require personal knowledge, just a logical thought process. I won't hold my breath like obviously. Ok Mr Logic for the final time; FCB has not "spunked money" on players for NUFC, nor has he departed from his normal business ethic of buy em cheap and sell them on for a profit. He is currently looking at over £40M of profit on transfers since he took over. Fuck knows why you find this hard to understand. Nah, either quote my post (No. 758) and contradict it or stop giving it big licks you halfwit. You're not funny enough to be doing the diversion stuff posting daft pictures btw. unfortunately, OBG is correct. There is only one halfwit here, and the clever boy can't kid himself out of it Strange how mancy thinks its amusing to post "jokes" and make infantile comments such as "chomp", or "halfwit", but when someone else does it, its "daft". Massive chip on shoulder, or ego problem, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35459 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 OBG and LM: The Axis of Arsehole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) Getting rid of Shearer would've made money whereas getting rid of Gullit would've cost money ...which was exactly what I was thinking! Shearer simply would have never been offered another contract, would he? We would never have signed Shearer if Ashley was running the club, we wouldn't have got into the PL for starters. Edited September 2, 2011 by Kevin S. Assilleekunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Getting rid of Shearer would've made money whereas getting rid of Gullit would've cost money ...which was exactly what I was thinking! Shearer simply would have never been offered another contract, would he? We would never have signed Shearer if Ashley was running the club, we wouldn't have got into the PL for starters. Or got Gullit in as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6321 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Getting rid of Shearer would've made money whereas getting rid of Gullit would've cost money ...which was exactly what I was thinking! Shearer simply would have never been offered another contract, would he? We would never have signed Shearer if Ashley was running the club, we wouldn't have got into the PL for starters. Or got Gullit in as manager. Or SBR a year later for that matter. He'd have stuck with Steve Clarke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Getting rid of Shearer would've made money whereas getting rid of Gullit would've cost money ...which was exactly what I was thinking! Shearer simply would have never been offered another contract, would he? We would never have signed Shearer if Ashley was running the club, we wouldn't have got into the PL for starters. Or got Gullit in as manager. Or SBR a year later for that matter. He'd have stuck with Steve Clarke. or Ossie Ardiles, and all those young kids who's sale values would rocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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