Park Life 70 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 With Ba and Best scoring freely and Shola displaying a new deadly left foot, a CD (or defensive cover) might be more appropriate in Jan (if we get anyone that is). Thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Need a full-back. We're massively getting away with having Simpson and Ryan Taylor there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 We could do with another centre half as cover because Williamson is just a massive fanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I still think we need a forward. Its a must. I still dont rate Best but have been impressed with Ba. Need to see how Santon fits in but while we are "getting by" with our current back four (despite some woeful shows from the flanks) we have zero options. We are fucked if we are hit with any real injuries and thats the reason I see our position falling away over time (plus when we play the "big guns"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think we are a striker, a CB, a right winger and a full back away from top 5 or 6. At the minute we are somewhere between 7th and 10th. To move from 7th to 6th is a massive jump but from 6th to 4th is currently very doable. A CB is needed for depth but will do no more than solidify us in that 7th to 10th (ish) tranche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think we are a striker, a CB, a right winger and a full back away from top 5 or 6. At the minute we are somewhere between 7th and 10th. To move from 7th to 6th is a massive jump but from 6th to 4th is currently very doable. A CB is needed for depth but will do no more than solidify us in that 7th to 10th (ish) tranche. I'd take that atm like. I do agree with you though. A right winger of Gutierrez' quality would improve us a hell of a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Isn't Ba away to the African Cup of Nations in Jan and Shola a crock? Strikers def still the priority by a country mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 I still think we need a forward. Its a must. I still dont rate Best but have been impressed with Ba. Need to see how Santon fits in but while we are "getting by" with our current back four (despite some woeful shows from the flanks) we have zero options. We are fucked if we are hit with any real injuries and thats the reason I see our position falling away over time (plus when we play the "big guns"). Watching Collo the last few games he's half our defence basically. If he misses a handful of games we're gonna be in bother. Still in two minds about what we need. Santon being able to play both full back positions is a massive bonus. He can play RM as well apparently. The other probs with the striker argument is that it is very hard to get anyone good in Jan (for the money I imagine they want to spend). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) FSV Mainz (Squad number 13) Nigeria - Forward Old club: Lillestrom Age: 21 Born in: Tudun Wada Height: 1.83m Weight: 82kg Scored 13 goals this season. Nifty with a bit of pace. I imagine wouldnt' cost and arm and a leg. Edited October 17, 2011 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 My (what I believe isn't asking for too much) hope is: Centre back - Samba (Blackburn) Striker - (decent loan signing). Back four then = Santon to play RB and Ferguson can come in LB for me because Guti cover/workrate down that flank is a big factor. I realise Samba is Blackburbn captain/recently signed a new deal/could go to a 'better' club etc etc etc, but injuries aside, I just don't see the January window as being where the top teams will be tinkering with their defences and looking for a new CB linchpin. That with an imaginitive loan signing up front would be a very strong starting 11 for me. That assumes no key departures of course, which is far, far from guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Mentioned Samba before as I think he'd be brilliant alongside Coloccini but he'd be too expensive compared to what we're willing to pay in terms of both transfer and wages imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I still think we need a forward. Its a must. I still dont rate Best but have been impressed with Ba. Need to see how Santon fits in but while we are "getting by" with our current back four (despite some woeful shows from the flanks) we have zero options. We are fucked if we are hit with any real injuries and thats the reason I see our position falling away over time (plus when we play the "big guns"). Watching Collo the last few games he's half our defence basically. If he misses a handful of games we're gonna be in bother. Still in two minds about what we need. Santon being able to play both full back positions is a massive bonus. He can play RM as well apparently. The other probs with the striker argument is that it is very hard to get anyone good in Jan (for the money I imagine they want to spend). Colo is the best CB we've had since...I don't even know. Woodgate was excellent for us but couldn't play three games in a row without getting injured. Philippe Albert, well those kind of CBs don't exist anymore Would be great to get someone like Erik Pieters in Jan. Ideally a striker as well but I won't hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Another top centreback would be great but Best and Shola are still shit and with Ba going to be away then we still desperately need a striker. Both fullbacks look incredibly weak at the moment so we need either a leftback or a rightback (depending on where we want to play Santon). I have a big concern about Tiote being away in January too as we have no one to cover him while he's not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Mentioned Samba before as I think he'd be brilliant alongside Coloccini but he'd be too expensive compared to what we're willing to pay in terms of both transfer and wages imo. I've honestly no idea re:wages, though I'd be inclined to agree on transfer fee as they'd want big money. All I'd say if I was trying to get blood out of a stone (ie Ashley) is it'd be the only chance we had to get him because I don't think the top four will be in for him in that window. Just wishing out loud really of course, but I honestly think those couple of additions could have a big impact while still being generally consistent with a cautious build, knowing Pardew'll never have big money to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Well it was more transfer fee then (as you've mentioned before) the wages commensurate with such a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Another top centreback would be great but Best and Shola are still shit and with Ba going to be away then we still desperately need a striker. Both fullbacks look incredibly weak at the moment so we need either a leftback or a rightback (depending on where we want to play Santon). I have a big concern about Tiote being away in January too as we have no one to cover him while he's not there. Forgot about Tiote. We need to organise some mystery injuries a la Fergy in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Mentioned Samba before as I think he'd be brilliant alongside Coloccini but he'd be too expensive compared to what we're willing to pay in terms of both transfer and wages imo. I've honestly no idea re:wages, though I'd be inclined to agree on transfer fee as they'd want big money. All I'd say if I was trying to get blood out of a stone (ie Ashley) is it'd be the only chance we had to get him because I don't think the top four will be in for him in that window. Just wishing out loud really of course, but I honestly think those couple of additions could have a big impact while still being generally consistent with a cautious build, knowing Pardew'll never have big money to spend. What's happenned with Kadar anyway is he totally shit now or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 If Drenthe does alright at Everton I wonder if he'd be worth going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 If Drenthe does alright at Everton I wonder if he'd be worth going for. Natural left back he used to be at Ajax. Good going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Mentioned Samba before as I think he'd be brilliant alongside Coloccini but he'd be too expensive compared to what we're willing to pay in terms of both transfer and wages imo. I've honestly no idea re:wages, though I'd be inclined to agree on transfer fee as they'd want big money. All I'd say if I was trying to get blood out of a stone (ie Ashley) is it'd be the only chance we had to get him because I don't think the top four will be in for him in that window. Just wishing out loud really of course, but I honestly think those couple of additions could have a big impact while still being generally consistent with a cautious build, knowing Pardew'll never have big money to spend. What's happenned with Kadar anyway is he totally shit now or what? Well he's out of contract at the end of the season so I'm guessing he's not in the plans as he hasn't even been on the bench afaik. Also, he would've been (you'd have thought) a natural one to try out at LB pre-season given Enrique's future being in doubt etc. I'm guessing he's a goner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 One player who showed real promise here I think is Patrick van Aanholt (currently on loan at Wigan). But no chance in hell, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Mentioned Samba before as I think he'd be brilliant alongside Coloccini but he'd be too expensive compared to what we're willing to pay in terms of both transfer and wages imo. I've honestly no idea re:wages, though I'd be inclined to agree on transfer fee as they'd want big money. All I'd say if I was trying to get blood out of a stone (ie Ashley) is it'd be the only chance we had to get him because I don't think the top four will be in for him in that window. Just wishing out loud really of course, but I honestly think those couple of additions could have a big impact while still being generally consistent with a cautious build, knowing Pardew'll never have big money to spend. What's happenned with Kadar anyway is he totally shit now or what? Well he's out of contract at the end of the season so I'm guessing he's not in the plans as he hasn't even been on the bench afaik. Also, he would've been (you'd have thought) a natural one to try out at LB pre-season given Enrique's future being in doubt etc. I'm guessing he's a goner. Aye, he's firmly in the 'if he's good enough he's old enough' category now as he's 21. He doesn't represent an argument against buying new either (eg 'give Kadar a chance') as he's not making the squad as you say. The only thing that might mean he stays put is his supposed utility LB/CB, but really you should be able to say that about most CB's when push comes to shove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 One player who showed real promise here I think is Patrick van Aanholt (currently on loan at Wigan). But no chance in hell, I guess. Good point. He looked good and confident those few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 The Bundesliga is awash with top quality young CD's atm, but all will be pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithJ 0 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The worrying thing about Ba is that everytime I see him get a tackle put in against him, I worry he will pick up a knock and misses games. He will be away to the African Nations and even looking beyond that to the Pre-season, we got to rememeber he will be doing Ramadan and he wont be as sharp as he would usually be. A few would argue that Best and Shola would be good enough to last until he came back however we really do need another threatening striker in the shape of a really lightening quick and agile player. This would add a new threat in our attack and a great option from the bench. In terms of a centre back, Samba is a good shout however at 27, would he just fit in to our blue print and no more. I would be more fearful for how much he would cost, etc. My dream January - Eric Peters and Agbonlahor. Both fit in to the blue print. However I think Gabby would be a bit a pie in the sky target! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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