ewerk 34244 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 16:47, SpaceCadet said: A fascist government could and would easily revoke a human rights bill at any level. Which is why government should always be limited and always be decentralised. Expand It’s not as easy when it’s an international agreement underpinned by a pan-European organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34244 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 16:48, SpaceCadet said: You misunderstood The EU has more power now in general Expand And how does that affect us negatively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 16:48, Rayvin said: Separate question - where would you place yourself on the political spectrum? Expand I am a liberal (no not that kind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6453 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 16:54, SpaceCadet said: I am a liberal (no not that kind). Expand Yeah that word is being used by almost all sides of the political spectrum now so it doesn't help much. I guess it'll become clear over time. FWIW I'm liberal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 16:54, ewerk said: And how does that affect us negatively? Expand I like our governments like governments like our liberties... small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 16:56, Rayvin said: Yeah that word is being used by almost all sides of the political spectrum now so it doesn't help much. I guess it'll become clear over time. FWIW I'm liberal too. Expand I'm of the Frédéric Bastiat sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34244 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 And in a world where size is everything most reasonable people would see that as a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6453 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 16:59, SpaceCadet said: I'm of the Frédéric Bastiat sort. Expand Remind me... unlimited capitalism? Or have I got that wrong? The free market is paramount, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 16:59, ewerk said: And in a world where size is everything most reasonable people would see that as a negative. Expand Would explain all the cankles on the high street. On 18/04/2018 at 17:01, Rayvin said: Remind me... unlimited capitalism? Or have I got that wrong? The free market is paramount, right? Expand The free market is wonderful, especially when I'm in need of food, clothes and other essentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37794 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Don’t think it worked out too well in the banking sector about 9 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 The free market is wonderful, especially when the poor are in need of food, clothes and other essentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34244 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Fair play, you've done a reasonable job in answering pretty much nothing. The mark of a true Brexiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37794 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I don’t know, citing 70-odd years of unprecedented peace as evidence of heading towards the opposite was pretty inspired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 17:08, Alex said: Don’t think it worked out too well in the banking sector about 9 years ago Expand Blame the pig molester for bailing them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37794 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Rather than blaming the lack of regulation which caused the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 So the big problem with the potential collapse of the world markets (and potentially civilisation) was trying to fix it? Iceland did it, and it worked well, but could they have survived if everyone did it? We need to become way less reliant on banks, though obviously we've ignored that crucial lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 17:09, ewerk said: Fair play, you've done a reasonable job in answering pretty much nothing. The mark of a true Brexiter. Expand If my answers were not satisfactory then feel free to come over for a BBQ, I have a cat called Miles who would make a lovely therapy pet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 17:15, adios said: So the big problem with the potential collapse of the world markets (and potentially civilisation) was trying to fix it? Iceland did it, and it worked well, but could they have survived if everyone did it? We need to become way less reliant on banks, though obviously we've ignored that crucial lesson. Expand There's some sense there But didn't Iceland lock them up? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37794 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Here comes the zany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 17:18, SpaceCadet said: There's some sense there But didn't Iceland lock them up? lol Expand They did (at least some of them) and they were right but unfortunately pragmatism rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 17:13, Alex said: Rather than blaming the lack of regulation which caused the problem Expand Must you use the 'R' word? My blood pressure is high enough as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 So are you a full-on anarcho-capitalist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37794 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 17:20, SpaceCadet said: Must you use the 'R' word? My blood pressure is high enough as it is. Expand Give me a chance to get into my iron corset next time you plan on making my sides split Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 17:19, adios said: They did (at least some of them) and they were right but unfortunately pragmatism rules. Expand For breaking the law, there should be prosecution but for those who wronged by merely being bad at their jobs then being sacked is a sufficient punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 17:21, adios said: So are you a full-on anarcho-capitalist? Expand Anarcho-capitalism is zero government I'm of small/limited government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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