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Gemmill

decent recovery. get through the evening session for the loss of a wicket or two and we're right back in the game.

Played.
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I see Hanif Mohammed has died. I remember reading about his 499 (I think he was run out going for his 500 as it was almost the close of play - possibly the end of the match). RIP

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David Kelly

luckily two of our form batsmen are still at the crease. 

 

lots of questions remain going into the winter tour: 

 

who replaces vince? do you continue with moeen as a frontline spinner or does rashid start? can hales make it as an opener? has ballance done to deserve another go when other batsmen are making good cases in county cricket? do you stick with finn or bomb him for wood?

I think you move Ali up the order and bring in Rashid as the fronline spinner. Ali seems to bat spin pretty well too.
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Dr Gloom

lower middle order saves us from top middle order failures too often. rashid or woakes are both absolutely fine at number 8. get "the beard that's feared" at number five. 

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David Kelly

Aye Vince hasn't really looked any more like he's getting to grips with test match cricket in the final test of the summer than he did in the first. Ali is showing what a good batsman he is and he's more likely to continue to do that further up the order. We'll definitely need another spinner in the winter too.

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Dr Gloom

i feel for moeen though. having to bat with the tail again, and probably sacrifice the chance of getting a ton

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Dr Gloom

from 277-6 to 282- 8. it's gone from looking like a brilliant fightback by england to being pakistan's day in the space of a few balls. test match cricket still the greatest. 

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David Kelly

Aye it was looking like 200 was beyond us at one stage so if we get to 300 it's an achievement in itself.

 

It'll be interesting to see how it go's when we bowl. At times today the pitch has looked very playable.

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Dr Gloom

Honours about even I'd say with 325 on the board and them 3/1. Class stuff from moeen

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David Kelly

Could have done with getting Yasir out a bit quicker. Interesting that they've brought Shafiq in at four.

 

Looks set for another close game.

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Dr Gloom

three dropped catches doesn't help proceedings. things can change quickly though, with the new ball not far away.

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Being objective that was a class series and Pakistan deserved at least a draw. Still loads of issues with the England top order though.

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Dr Gloom

Totally. Both teams got what they deserved. England top order definitively requires surgery. Good to see a competitive Pakistan side.

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Yes, good series with both sides playing some very good and some very abject cricket. I wonder if they'll stick with Vince for the winter series as pitches will be slower and lower over there, so his weakness outside off won't be such a big deal. I think I remember hearing on TMS at some point that he's good against spin. On the one hand you think he's had his chance - if you can't make one score in a whole home series then you can't complain, but on the other hand it's not nice to see players consigned to the scrap heap. Unless there's someone scoring millions in county cricket at the moment I'd be tempted to take Vince on tour although I'd prefer to see everyone move up one another spinner (rashid?) to come in, probably with Stokes coming in for Finn.  

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I think they seem to rate Vince but, if anything, that's even more reason to drop him.

Also, it's always a bit sad when the last test of the summer finishes.

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