wolfy 12 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Just now, Ant said: no he didn't as stated above you complete mong Yes he did, as stated, Ant. Throw some stick and stones, they work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Just now, Ant said: he's on the verge of being contained to one place, honestly it's one thing playing devils advocate but quite another just being contrary non stop and frankly a fucking spastic You have the power to do that and is your only weak way out. Do what you need to do to keep your little army of weaklings pacified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Cheers, @Ant . I've no problem with him having it out with whomever (ahem @The Fish ahem) but would rather be able to keep up with the Benitez/Transfer situation without trawling through this shite. Maybe ignoring this whole mess that is Newcastle would be doing me a favour though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On a completely unrelated issue, the ignore feature doesn't appear to work for me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 9342 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 2 hours ago, strawb said: Formations aren't static. When written down it could be a 4411 or a 4231, in that it's a 4411 when defending and a 4231 when attacking. It will be the same the entire time Rafa is here. We quite clearly played a flat 4 across the midfield last season. This season we are playing 2 CDMs and 3 in front of them. Yes formations can morph but Fish's assertion that we won the championship with 4231 is bollocks. We started every game playing 4411 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 4231 effectively becomes 4411 when you don't have the ball. Not sure why you're pushing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 9342 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Because they are 2 very different systems and we've nullified our wingers by playing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 In what way are they very different? How have we nullified our wingers? Atsu was probably our best player against Spurs. Aarons was probably our best against Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 1058 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 4231 or 4411 it's still the same 1 up top it doesn't work in this league with these players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 5433 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Everyone who has won the league in the last decade has played 1 up top, so it does work in this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Not with these players, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 It's just the same boring conclusion that people jump too every time we're out of sorts. We'd just leave ourselves even more exposed if we played 2 up front. Also we haven't even got one capable striker at this level. If we had a quality player being kept out of the team because of the formation I'd understand perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 5433 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 It's a moot point anyway because Rafa isn't going to play 2 up front, he hasn't ever played it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, strawb said: It's a moot point anyway because Rafa isn't going to play 2 up front, he hasn't ever played it. I wish he would just as a quick demonstration that it won't morph us into Brazil's 2002 team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 5433 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Aye same. Play 442 against either manc club and see how it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 26385 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 4-2-3-1 with the god-like Joselu leading the line. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Just reminded everyone that he knows how to set a team up. Even a team of stragglers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 12581 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 19 hours ago, TheGingerQuiff said: It's just the same boring conclusion that people jump too every time we're out of sorts. We'd just leave ourselves even more exposed if we played 2 up front. Also we haven't even got one capable striker at this level. If we had a quality player being kept out of the team because of the formation I'd understand perhaps. Yep. They seem to simplistically think that our problem is that we're too negative, and that playing 2 up front will instantly make us more attacking and thus better. 4-2-3-1 allows us flexibility in game to switch from; blah blah blah blah blah --- blah blah blah blah blah blah to a very defensive (4-2DM-3-1) blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah --- blah packed midfield (4-5-1) blah blah blah blah blah --- blah blah blah blah blah --- blah all the way to an ultra-attacking 4-2-1-3 blah blah blah blah blah --- blah blah blah blah blah blah Much easier to do that from a 4-2-3-1 than it is from, say, a 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 1058 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 MIRROR EXCLUSIVE: Rafa Benitez ordered to stop moaning by Newcastle hierarchy as transfer tensions mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39291 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The standard of newspaper headlines these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 RAFA TAPE: BOSS GAGGED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 BUTTONITEZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I would think after he watched those cockney bastard wasters not giving a fuck on the pitch there in no way he would take on that job,if he has been giving it any thought that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 1058 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I think we have an interesting few days coming up. Will we make anymore signings? will Rafa stay ? & is there anything in the West Ham rumour ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 1058 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just been reading an article on NO by Pete Groves could there be anything in this also Ashley could make £5 million for someone who he see's as a pain in the arse for have the cheek to stand up to him "Rafa has always maintained privately that he feels indebted to West Ham and would have to consider any approach from the Hammers if it should ever materialise and here's why; In 2015 Benitez was on the brink of becoming West Ham's manager. He'd spoken with the owners and was planning for life at Upton Park. However at the eleventh hour Real Madrid offered him the opportunity to move to the Bernabeu and it was too good an offer to turn down. What impressed Rafa so much was the way the West Ham board accepted his decision. They understood that the opportunity to manage Real Madrid was too much for a Spanish manager to disregard and they gave Rafa their blessing and subsequently appointed Slaven Bilic. The rest as they say is history and now we are where we are... Bilic on the brink and Rafa in their thoughts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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