Craig 6307 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Ive already done some 'pruning' of posts in recent days. As ever I ask you all to be considerate when posting 3rd party material and if you are at all concerned that you may be posting something that breeches copyright, then simply don't post it - not even a link. The mods and admins reserve the right to remove posts and material which has the potential to get us in hot water. If you've posted something which you think needs removing and someone else has nested it within a quote, drop one of us a PM and we'll deal with it accordingly. 165505[/snapback] That seems fair to me craig. but in my previous post it seems it may be possible to post fixture lists legally (or part of) The guy who wrote that is, as far as i know very bright! Obviously i wouldnt put it to the test on here or risk getting us into the shit whatsoever, its just not worth it...but i wonder out of interest if he's correct? 165506[/snapback] I think there's some legal thing whereby you're allowed to post details of the next 5 matches or so.... What they go nuts about is the publication of the entire list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I understand the thing about NO being more high profile and thus getting more attention. But there are other sites that have got more members than NO and yet they've got thousands of clips going around in their forums, soccerpulse for instant. How do they get away with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I understand the thing about NO being more high profile and thus getting more attention. But there are other sites that have got more members than NO and yet they've got thousands of clips going around in their forums, soccerpulse for instant. How do they get away with it? 165778[/snapback] Probably because no-one has yet grassed to whoever has the copyright. Pretty convinced that snitching is the only way it's found out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 im presuming its still ok to post links for 'YouTube' vids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Wouldn't have thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Wouldn't have thought so. 165831[/snapback] ooops ah well admin can delete my post in chat if thats the case, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Wouldn't have thought so. 165831[/snapback] ooops ah well admin can delete my post in chat if thats the case, sorry! 165834[/snapback] I think you're all right as long as it's not NUFC related. Start investing in Norwegian hosting companies tbh, everything will be hosted there by Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Wouldn't have thought so. 165831[/snapback] ooops ah well admin can delete my post in chat if thats the case, sorry! 165834[/snapback] I think you're all right as long as it's not NUFC related. Start investing in Norwegian hosting companies tbh, everything will be hosted there by Tuesday. 165848[/snapback] yes i thought it would be ok as the material on that type of site has been contributed by many people to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 No, no, it's not ok if it's youtube and NUFC, just that you can post links to copyrighted stuff that isn't NUFC from youtube or anywhere else for the time being...I think. Silly woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 No, no, it's not ok if it's youtube and NUFC, just that you can post links to copyrighted stuff that isn't NUFC from youtube or anywhere else for the time being...I think. Silly woman. 165873[/snapback] i didnt explain myself very well did i ? No, i know you cant post NUFC clips and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 im presuming its still ok to post links for 'YouTube' vids? 165829[/snapback] YouTube vids are OK, so long as it's not a copyrighted video that's being hosted by YouTube. This has all come about because some numpty decided to host a 'NewcastleWorld' video on YouTube... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 This has all come about because some numpty decided to host a 'NewcastleWorld' video on YouTube... 165977[/snapback] actually you're right. I had kinda noticed the coincidence, World videos were never usualy uploaded anywhere, but someone put that Parker interview up after the Lillestrom game IIRC, and the club must have twigged it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 This has all come about because some numpty decided to host a 'NewcastleWorld' video on YouTube... 165977[/snapback] actually you're right. I had kinda noticed the coincidence, World videos were never usualy uploaded anywhere, but someone put that Parker interview up after the Lillestrom game IIRC, and the club must have twigged it. 166013[/snapback] The 'exclusive interview' with Duff was also uploaded on Sunday evening (i.e. before the press conference) I'm led to believe which obviously really boiled their piss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 This has all come about because some numpty decided to host a 'NewcastleWorld' video on YouTube... 165977[/snapback] actually you're right. I had kinda noticed the coincidence, World videos were never usualy uploaded anywhere, but someone put that Parker interview up after the Lillestrom game IIRC, and the club must have twigged it. 166013[/snapback] Does the club acutally have people searching the internet all day long for this kind of stuff?? They cant be that desperate. Or maybe they have some kind of reward for people tipping them off about these clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 This has all come about because some numpty decided to host a 'NewcastleWorld' video on YouTube... 165977[/snapback] actually you're right. I had kinda noticed the coincidence, World videos were never usualy uploaded anywhere, but someone put that Parker interview up after the Lillestrom game IIRC, and the club must have twigged it. 166013[/snapback] Does the club acutally have people searching the internet all day long for this kind of stuff?? They cant be that desperate. Or maybe they have some kind of reward for people tipping them off about these clips. 166097[/snapback] Well it's blatantly Gemill tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Suppose I had a clip, uploaded onto a site and provided the link on some other website; then gave a link to that website here. Im sure that would be illegal too, is it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 This has all come about because some numpty decided to host a 'NewcastleWorld' video on YouTube... 165977[/snapback] actually you're right. I had kinda noticed the coincidence, World videos were never usualy uploaded anywhere, but someone put that Parker interview up after the Lillestrom game IIRC, and the club must have twigged it. 166013[/snapback] Does the club acutally have people searching the internet all day long for this kind of stuff?? They cant be that desperate. Or maybe they have some kind of reward for people tipping them off about these clips. 166097[/snapback] You say that almost as though they're in the wrong for asking for it to be removed and that it is our free right to post what the hell we like. The club offer you the option to pay £11.99 a year to watch clips like that or the alternative is to not watch it all. They're well within their rights to have a go, whether we like it or not so I really don't see what the point is tbh. If it's copyright material, don't post it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Suppose I had a clip, uploaded onto a site and provided the link on some other website; then gave a link to that website here. Im sure that would be illegal too, is it?? 166105[/snapback] The whole crux of the clip in question is that you have to pay to watch it. If it's posted on YouTube, it's evading that payment. Would it be right for us to walk through an open gate at SJP rather than pay for a ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Suppose I had a clip, uploaded onto a site and provided the link on some other website; then gave a link to that website here. Im sure that would be illegal too, is it?? 166105[/snapback] The whole crux of the clip in question is that you have to pay to watch it. If it's posted on YouTube, it's evading that payment. Would it be right for us to walk through an open gate at SJP rather than pay for a ticket? 166140[/snapback] Thanks for clearing things up. I disagree slightly with you on the matter, however. Now, hacking off clips from Newcastle World would be unfair since those clips belong completely to the club. But suppose Im capping clips from Sky or BBC, im paying for those channels and the club itself gets a good deal of money in broadcasting rights etc from those channels. Thus in my opinion its fair to have a ban on distributing clips from Newcastle World, but not from other sources. Even if the clips reach people who havent subscribed for those channels, the club shouldnt be bothered. The fee they get more than compensates for that in my opnion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Suppose I had a clip, uploaded onto a site and provided the link on some other website; then gave a link to that website here. Im sure that would be illegal too, is it?? 166105[/snapback] The whole crux of the clip in question is that you have to pay to watch it. If it's posted on YouTube, it's evading that payment. Would it be right for us to walk through an open gate at SJP rather than pay for a ticket? 166140[/snapback] Thanks for clearing things up. I disagree slightly with you on the matter, however. Now, hacking off clips from Newcastle World would be unfair since those clips belong completely to the club. But suppose Im capping clips from Sky or BBC, im paying for those channels and the club itself gets a good deal of money in broadcasting rights etc from those channels. Thus in my opinion its fair to have a ban on distributing clips from Newcastle World, but not from other sources. Even if the clips reach people who havent subscribed for those channels, the club shouldnt be bothered. The fee they get more than compensates for that in my opnion. 166312[/snapback] If Sky turn around and ask for clips of something that was displayed on one of their channels to be removed, they are well within their rights as they own the copyright and it is allowing the possibility of someone who has not paid a subscription to view their material. Same goes for the BBC really because people who have not paid the TV licence would be able to view material. The only 'safe' submissions to YouTube are effectively home-made clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Suppose I had a clip, uploaded onto a site and provided the link on some other website; then gave a link to that website here. Im sure that would be illegal too, is it?? 166105[/snapback] The whole crux of the clip in question is that you have to pay to watch it. If it's posted on YouTube, it's evading that payment. Would it be right for us to walk through an open gate at SJP rather than pay for a ticket? 166140[/snapback] Thanks for clearing things up. I disagree slightly with you on the matter, however. Now, hacking off clips from Newcastle World would be unfair since those clips belong completely to the club. But suppose Im capping clips from Sky or BBC, im paying for those channels and the club itself gets a good deal of money in broadcasting rights etc from those channels. Thus in my opinion its fair to have a ban on distributing clips from Newcastle World, but not from other sources. Even if the clips reach people who havent subscribed for those channels, the club shouldnt be bothered. The fee they get more than compensates for that in my opnion. 166312[/snapback] If Sky turn around and ask for clips of something that was displayed on one of their channels to be removed, they are well within their rights as they own the copyright and it is allowing the possibility of someone who has not paid a subscription to view their material. Same goes for the BBC really because people who have not paid the TV licence would be able to view material. The only 'safe' submissions to YouTube are effectively home-made clips 166327[/snapback] What excatly would qualify as 'home-made'? I thought home-made compilations are banned as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 8 Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 Suppose I had a clip, uploaded onto a site and provided the link on some other website; then gave a link to that website here. Im sure that would be illegal too, is it?? 166105[/snapback] The whole crux of the clip in question is that you have to pay to watch it. If it's posted on YouTube, it's evading that payment. Would it be right for us to walk through an open gate at SJP rather than pay for a ticket? 166140[/snapback] Thanks for clearing things up. I disagree slightly with you on the matter, however. Now, hacking off clips from Newcastle World would be unfair since those clips belong completely to the club. But suppose Im capping clips from Sky or BBC, im paying for those channels and the club itself gets a good deal of money in broadcasting rights etc from those channels. Thus in my opinion its fair to have a ban on distributing clips from Newcastle World, but not from other sources. Even if the clips reach people who havent subscribed for those channels, the club shouldnt be bothered. The fee they get more than compensates for that in my opnion. 166312[/snapback] If Sky turn around and ask for clips of something that was displayed on one of their channels to be removed, they are well within their rights as they own the copyright and it is allowing the possibility of someone who has not paid a subscription to view their material. Same goes for the BBC really because people who have not paid the TV licence would be able to view material. The only 'safe' submissions to YouTube are effectively home-made clips 166327[/snapback] What excatly would qualify as 'home-made'? I thought home-made compilations are banned as well. 166331[/snapback] Thats home made compilations of copyrighted stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Suppose I had a clip, uploaded onto a site and provided the link on some other website; then gave a link to that website here. Im sure that would be illegal too, is it?? 166105[/snapback] The whole crux of the clip in question is that you have to pay to watch it. If it's posted on YouTube, it's evading that payment. Would it be right for us to walk through an open gate at SJP rather than pay for a ticket? 166140[/snapback] Thanks for clearing things up. I disagree slightly with you on the matter, however. Now, hacking off clips from Newcastle World would be unfair since those clips belong completely to the club. But suppose Im capping clips from Sky or BBC, im paying for those channels and the club itself gets a good deal of money in broadcasting rights etc from those channels. Thus in my opinion its fair to have a ban on distributing clips from Newcastle World, but not from other sources. Even if the clips reach people who havent subscribed for those channels, the club shouldnt be bothered. The fee they get more than compensates for that in my opnion. 166312[/snapback] If Sky turn around and ask for clips of something that was displayed on one of their channels to be removed, they are well within their rights as they own the copyright and it is allowing the possibility of someone who has not paid a subscription to view their material. Same goes for the BBC really because people who have not paid the TV licence would be able to view material. The only 'safe' submissions to YouTube are effectively home-made clips 166327[/snapback] What excatly would qualify as 'home-made'? I thought home-made compilations are banned as well. 166331[/snapback] Home-made?? Camcorder stuff - you filmed it, you own it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Suppose I had a clip, uploaded onto a site and provided the link on some other website; then gave a link to that website here. Im sure that would be illegal too, is it?? 166105[/snapback] The whole crux of the clip in question is that you have to pay to watch it. If it's posted on YouTube, it's evading that payment. Would it be right for us to walk through an open gate at SJP rather than pay for a ticket? 166140[/snapback] Thanks for clearing things up. I disagree slightly with you on the matter, however. Now, hacking off clips from Newcastle World would be unfair since those clips belong completely to the club. But suppose Im capping clips from Sky or BBC, im paying for those channels and the club itself gets a good deal of money in broadcasting rights etc from those channels. Thus in my opinion its fair to have a ban on distributing clips from Newcastle World, but not from other sources. Even if the clips reach people who havent subscribed for those channels, the club shouldnt be bothered. The fee they get more than compensates for that in my opnion. 166312[/snapback] If Sky turn around and ask for clips of something that was displayed on one of their channels to be removed, they are well within their rights as they own the copyright and it is allowing the possibility of someone who has not paid a subscription to view their material. Same goes for the BBC really because people who have not paid the TV licence would be able to view material. The only 'safe' submissions to YouTube are effectively home-made clips 166327[/snapback] What excatly would qualify as 'home-made'? I thought home-made compilations are banned as well. 166331[/snapback] Home-made?? Camcorder stuff - you filmed it, you own it! 166340[/snapback] but if you film your mates, then you need to get a signed release from them saying you can post their "image" on the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 84 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Suppose I had a clip, uploaded onto a site and provided the link on some other website; then gave a link to that website here. Im sure that would be illegal too, is it?? 166105[/snapback] The whole crux of the clip in question is that you have to pay to watch it. If it's posted on YouTube, it's evading that payment. Would it be right for us to walk through an open gate at SJP rather than pay for a ticket? 166140[/snapback] Thanks for clearing things up. I disagree slightly with you on the matter, however. Now, hacking off clips from Newcastle World would be unfair since those clips belong completely to the club. But suppose Im capping clips from Sky or BBC, im paying for those channels and the club itself gets a good deal of money in broadcasting rights etc from those channels. Thus in my opinion its fair to have a ban on distributing clips from Newcastle World, but not from other sources. Even if the clips reach people who havent subscribed for those channels, the club shouldnt be bothered. The fee they get more than compensates for that in my opnion. 166312[/snapback] If Sky turn around and ask for clips of something that was displayed on one of their channels to be removed, they are well within their rights as they own the copyright and it is allowing the possibility of someone who has not paid a subscription to view their material. Same goes for the BBC really because people who have not paid the TV licence would be able to view material. The only 'safe' submissions to YouTube are effectively home-made clips 166327[/snapback] What excatly would qualify as 'home-made'? I thought home-made compilations are banned as well. 166331[/snapback] Home-made?? Camcorder stuff - you filmed it, you own it! 166340[/snapback] like the video of imogen that her ex boyfriend released on the net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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