Jimbo 133 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 OK I'll spell it out, Liverpool were shocking in the league that season, and were getting humped in the Champions league final, they were lucky to win it at all, the players deserve the credit not Benitez. That's utter, utter bollocks. They are Chelsea's closest rivals in the league. I suppose all the other trophies he's won were also down to the players? He does things his own way, isn't afraid to tough it out, and gets results. Look at what he did with the Liverpool defence last year. Now they have problems this year (largely attributable to a crisis of confidence of their keeper) and he's keeping faith in him and the defence through a difficult period. Head and shoulders above most managers in every department. Yeah, they really looked class today didn't they, and his rotation policy and playing Gerrard wide right and Bellamy as a winger is really paying dividends isn't it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 You're right, they had a bad game today, he's obviously shite. Alonso and Sissoko in the middle with Gerrard on the right is their best set-up btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26853 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 They are Chelsea's closest rivals in the league. How do you work that one out then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 So he's not a great manager, but the best coach in the Premiership, because Liverpool won the CL? How does that work? Is he better than Liverpool's other coaches then? How the fuck do ANY of you know how good a coach he is? Any of you trained with him before? Take Gerrard out of the Liverpool team and Rafa wouldn't get them into the top 6. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Have to say that Gerrard has been the single most important person to Liverpool over recent years, although I am not questioning Benitez's good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 They are Chelsea's closest rivals in the league. How do you work that one out then? Not really that difficult, they finished third, a point behind Man U last season, and they are going backwards while Liverpool continue to go forwards. I actually think they may run them quite close this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 They are Chelsea's closest rivals in the league. How do you work that one out then? Not really that difficult, they finished third, a point behind Man U last season, and they are going backwards while Liverpool continue to go forwards. I actually think they may run them quite close this season. Man United finished higher last season, and are 6 places above them at the moment. I think most people would say that Man United are Chelsea's closest rivals tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 9 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Won it despite Benitez rather than because imo. ahahahaaa what? OK I'll spell it out, Liverpool were shocking in the league that season, and were getting humped in the Champions league final, they were lucky to win it at all, the players deserve the credit not Benitez. That famous goal Gerrard scored against Olympiakos in the last group game. If that had hit row Z like it would have 9 times out of 10, they'd have been out in the group stage. Imagine what the reaction to him would have been then? I personally think he's over-rated, as too are Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26853 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 They are Chelsea's closest rivals in the league. How do you work that one out then? Not really that difficult, they finished third, a point behind Man U last season, and they are going backwards while Liverpool continue to go forwards. I actually think they may run them quite close this season. Liverpool won't get near Chelsea this season, if any team is going to do it it will be Man U, the scousers don't have a hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 2336 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 (edited) Take Gerrard out of the Liverpool team and Rafa wouldn't get them into the top 6. FACT. ...he's over-rated, as too are Liverpool. Quoted for trutheliciousness. Edited October 1, 2006 by MrBass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Obviously it's all about opinions but I feel when their defence learns to cope without Hyppia and Kuijt & Bellamy click, they'll be formidable. Let's see how the table looks at Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Obviously it's all about opinions but I feel when their defence learns to cope without Hyppia and Kuijt & Bellamy click, they'll be formidable. Let's see how the table looks at Christmas. Closet Liverpool fan tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Man United finished higher last season, and are 6 places above them at the moment. I think most people would say that Man United are Chelsea's closest rivals tbh. Places at the minute aren't that important. Using that logic you could say Bolton are more serious title challengers than Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Man United finished higher last season, and are 6 places above them at the moment. I think most people would say that Man United are Chelsea's closest rivals tbh. Places at the minute aren't that important. Using that logic you could say Bolton are more serious title challengers than Liverpool. Well I'm basing it on both last season, and performances from this season. What are you basing it on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 (edited) Liverpool only finished one point behind Man Utd and have come out on top quite often against Chelsea in the last 2 years. They've probably got better players than Man Utd as well. Edited October 1, 2006 by Sima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Liverpool only finished one point behind Man Utd and have come out on top quite often against Chelsea in the last 2 years. They've probably got better players than Man Utd as well. Have Liverpool beaten Chelsea in the league in the last few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Fulham better than Liverpool then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Fulham better than Liverpool then? Sorry, it was YOUR point I was arguing against tbh.... and have come out on top quite often against Chelsea in the last 2 years 2005/2006 Liverpool 1 - 4 Chelsea Chelsea 2 - 0 Liverpool Man United 1 - 0 Chelsea Chelsea 3 - 0 Man United So basically that makes Man United their closest rivals, by your own justification, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Forgetting the cup meetings then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Forgetting the cup meetings then? Do they count towards the league now then, seeing that you're the one who mentioned title challengers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Obviously it's all about opinions but I feel when their defence learns to cope without Hyppia and Kuijt & Bellamy click, they'll be formidable. Let's see how the table looks at Christmas. Closet Liverpool fan tbh Coming from the fully out and proud Chelsea fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Obviously it's all about opinions but I feel when their defence learns to cope without Hyppia and Kuijt & Bellamy click, they'll be formidable. Let's see how the table looks at Christmas. Closet Liverpool fan tbh Coming from the fully out and proud Chelsea fan? *yawns* This is about Man United v Liverpool btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 *yawns* This is about Man United v Liverpool btw Aye, and I'm responding to you calling me a closet Liverpool fan, which is relevant how? Don't get your knickers in a twist btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 *yawns* This is about Man United v Liverpool btw Aye, and I'm responding to you calling me a closet Liverpool fan, which is relevant how? Don't get your knickers in a twist btw. Because the only people who think Liverpool are serious challengers, and indeed more likely to challenge than Man United, are people who like Liverpool; like Renton for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Because the only people who think Liverpool are serious challengers, and indeed more likely to challenge than Man United, are people who like Liverpool; like Renton for example. I'm not deluding myself in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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