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Sunderland: we’re interested in your manager and would like to discuss a compensation package. L’Orient: how much do you want?

I'm not saying Southgate is the problem but his £500m or so midfield were dominated by someone who died three years ago but even more damning struggles to start games for Man United.

In fairness to Southgate he hasn’t had a whole lot of time to prepare for this situation. No one expected Philips form to drop off a cliff after two years of not playing football.

ewerk up early sniffing the loungers where those American lasses lie.

If you start a thread in this forum, is it possible to block a specific member from being able to reply/post ??? I am thinking of starting a 24/25 predictions thread, better safe than sorry.

I have to say that the combination of England's almost unheard of wealth of attacking options and Southgate's overwhelming commitment to making each game a complete snorefest, from an Australian perspective, is nothing short of pure theatre.

They had three match threads up for our friendly vs Spurs down under - their lack of self-awareness is unrivalled

Hard to think of a name that would sound good with that accent either mind.

Regis Le Bris, he's called. Hard to think of a name that would sound worse with a mackem accent.

It's ridiculous. Shaw has been out for 4 months. He was still injured when Southgate selected him as the only LB in the squad. If your first choice LB is injured, you find the next best English LB and you pick them. That's Chilwell, also injured, so on to the next. It's not ideal, but picking a lad who will be rehabbing for at least the first 3 games of a 7 game tournament is insane. I know Chilwell was second choice and was injured too, but you go to your third choice, you don't take a fucked first choice. You do mad shit like this with a Messi or a Ronaldo, where the psychological impact of not taking them is worse than them being there injured. You don't do it with a Luke Shaw.

Already quite a few Scots down here in Stuttgart, might join the on Sunday for a couple of pints discussing how to keep Southgate in charge of England,

You lot are really strange. Looking at it from far away you always think that with the personal to your disposal you should be up for it and do well. The reality is that despite the players you never employ someone who is able to use players and tactics to get the most out of it. I feared that Kevin would do it but bar Sir Robby and Hoddle you hardly ever used players and tactics correctly. You are really void of passion, you only do sometimes raise your game against us, but that’s it. Apart from always having players playing in positions that do not suit them the whole mentally and style is often just rubbish, I do like it , though.

I blame the media, you barely see the greens or any other 'minor' party but farage has a season ticket on QT and all the rest.

Good old Led by Donkeys. Nailed it as usual.

Podcasting quit him.

If a head is cut off, two more shall take its place.

No one’s going to buy it anyway- the first 300 pages are given over to dedications to his kids.

Real, poor Kunt. In a surprising twist, she has announced her engagement to recently divorced, pizza-face DJ Simon Mayo. “ I’m so pleased I won’t have to hear any more jokes about my name”

Canny TOTP from 96 on bbc4 now. Had The Wildhearts, Alanis Morrissette and Pesidents of the USA with Peaches..The Cure and The Cranberries still to come.

And literally just now he's on the BBC blaming the EU for the war in Ukraine. Fucking traitor. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cldd44zv3kpo.amp

Where are you, fanny magnet?

is that a clip of Temuri Ketsbaia in a geordie nightclub?

For Arnold - this is the only change he'll make and it'll be the same turgid performance.

Can't believe you were his only subscriber.

It is fucking bizarre how bad this lot are. Reminds me of the Producers. Can someone do a knock up of the Producers posters with Sunak and say Gove's face superimposed? Can't believe this hasn't been done. I mean I would with my fantastic photoshop skills, but I'm too busy.

My youngest is four months old.

This is exactly what I think Southgate does.

Thing is, qualification is relatively easy these days so you can do that a bit in those matches too. Instead of just playing Kane, for example, to bolster his goal record. And I’m not singling out Kane. I’ve only seen the highlight plus thought the criticism in the previous match was a bit OTT. But you get the point

I don't understand your point? He's tailor made for them!

The captain coming out post match and saying "we don't know how to pressure, we don't know who goes and who stays" suggests there's just zero instruction from the manager. It's a fairly significant breaking of the ranks from Kane. It also suggests we're probably not far from a mid tournament summit meeting between senior players and the management. If Kane is right about the lack of direction, I'm sure that made it even more galling that he was subbed off early.

Just heard lots of post match comments from the England players and the manager on 5live…..they’ve all identified what’s going wrong and they all seem to agree with what Shearer and Lineker were saying too (although the singling out of Kane was both bizarre and fuckin unfair I thought) about the pedestrian nature of play, the confused nature of how the press is being deployed and the poor use of the ball in general. It all points to them being woefully under prepared and frankly confused. The Calvin Phillips comment from Southgate was bullshit desperation from someone apparently clearly out of his depth. Which tbf is a distinct change from all the preceding tournaments where Southgate has been manager where the players have plainly bought into what was being asked of them . This with a remaining core of the team from Southgate’s first success in reaching World Cup semi in 2018 ie Kane, Walker, Tripps, Pickford (and if he was fit McGuire) When you think about it it’s fuckin bizarre

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I am soooo disappointed. Sad.

Palmer and Gordon, two of the form players of last season and can't even get on as subs for fucking chiclet teeth.

It is a poll endorsed by you. That‘s enough to kill off my little hopes in common sense.

Solid performance for England. A draw here and a draw v Slovenia will see us through. Gareth knows how to play tournament football.

It's back on!! Gerrin!!

It'll be the best tasting chocolate in the world for a while. Then, when it doesn't taste like chocolate and more like caulking putty, it'll be the worst thing ever.

You just wait until they sell their best players! all that dough they could buy 2, maybe 3 top class chocolate bars. I'm not talking about the cheap shit either. I'm talking Lindt, Tony's or Montezuma!

Ravel Morrison