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@Alex I also like everything you say. There are journalists (and in general, the popular voice) who have spoken in recent years of PSG and Manchester City as an illegal team without realizing that they have always been just as illegal. In Spain, 35% of the inhabitants are fans of Real Madrid (and they reach 50% if they are added to the fans of small teams that have Real Madrid as their other team). And here is something that happens. Most of the fans of Second Division teams (or many of the First Division) like Málaga, Córdoba, Valladolid, Elche, Getafe are really Real Madrid fans. The same thing happens with Barcelona. A total of 25% of the population is a Barcelona fan, and they reach 35% if fans of secondary teams are added. So this is like the Scottish League. Celtir-Rangers (Barcelona-Real Madrid). And everything is organized so that they always win. Never anyone else. In the last 20 years, Barcelona and Real Madrid have always been first and second in the League. Except for the years, now with Simeone, in which Atleti have been involved. The distribution of economic rights was rubbish until 4-5 years ago, because the distribution was as follows... 150 million for Real Madrid, 150 million for Barcelona and 300 million to be distributed among the 18 remaining teams (Atleti took 40 million and was the 3rd with the most). For a few years, it turns out that they talk about English teams and PSG as illegal teams for their money... Today, the front pages in newspapers in Spain were something like "Money beat football". And it turns out that the story is curious, because Real Madrid has always been one of the 2 richest teams in the world since records exist (and today it is the 2nd, only 30 million behind Manchester City). Real Madrid is the team that spends the most money to pay its players. And that for not getting into more complex issues, such as that in 2001, UEFA prohibited Real Madrid from playing in the Champions League due to its high debts with the Spanish State (Treasury). And only a week later, an ILLEGAL reclassification of land was achieved that Real Madrid sold to the government for a price 6 times more than its value and went from being the most indebted team in the world to the richest in the world thanks to a so-called crime town. And since then... He signed Figo, Ronaldo, Zidane, Beckham, Owen... They won again in Europe, etc. Real Madrid and Barcelona have a different tax system than the rest of the clubs in Spain (they pay less taxes) and they have been sentenced by the TAD for years to pay more money (and they don't). Barcelona, last year, exceeded the salary limit of Spain, and the League cheated so that it could register Lewandowski, Kounde and Christensen (yes, with the rule in hand, they could not play). The problem is always the same. When my team wins and is the best, I don't care. Uncritical. I don't care if he's doing bad things in the offices. When another wins, and they remove me from my site, I feel bad and criticize him. It makes my blood boil. Oh well. It is something we have to accept. The press (and I am a journalist) will always be conditioned and will rarely tell the truth.18 points
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/may/17/manchester-citys-inexorable-hard-power-crushes-real-madrid?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other I must confess to having zero time for Liew and consider him to be an abysmal journalist. He sums up much of The Guardian’s smug, upper middle class prejudice, masked as a concern for fighting the good fight. But even by his standards this is a bitter, hypocritically myopic pile of steaming horse shit. Chelsea’s years of oligarch money and the more recent disregard for financial fair play? Nah. Real Madrid. Poor fucking Real Madrid effectively being bankrolled by the heads of state for decades? Nah. Barcelona, the other half if the cartel, with their bribery, PEDs and reckless spending? Nah. Man Utd and their huge debts and several £100m spent on shite? The institutional corruption from Italy’s traditional big 3? Etc. But hang on, Man City aren’t playing fair. Just ignore the local academy kids who are integral to the side as well. Fucking do one, you picked last in the schoolyard, dweeby cunt15 points
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they appear to be winding themselves up on rtg this morning in to forming a deep hatred and eternal rivalry with tinpot luton. their grudge games now start off on the south coast at portsmouth, head up to bedfordshire, cross over to the midlands for a dust up with jimmy hill's boys before heading north again for a stop off in the potteries. they're forging an unlikely truce with the smoggies at the minute and are desperate to see them disperse of the sky blues before gaining a wembley triumph against the evil hatters. they need to be very careful do the mackems or the only friends they'll have left in the entire football world will be bilbao.14 points
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So far we’ve had - drop Bruno - Play 5-3-2 - play Almiron CM - throw in manquillo against Mitoma - play trippier in Longstaff role in DM Either you lot are crumbling under pressure or you’ve been smoking crack.14 points
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Well, fuck me. I actually went to the game and we won!14 points
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I'd just about got over Dan Burn leaving and then all hell seemed to let loose in October. My thoughts at the time were along the lines of 'we'll never know now just how far you could have taken us Graham'. The doom and gloom set in and then Roberto came in and after a little bedding in you could see a more adventurous style coming. Potter was excellent for us, no doubt about it. But De Zerbi, thus far, has been terrific. I love his passion compared to dour GP and his repetitive post-defeat analysis . I'm over Graham & Co going now, the shenanigans over Trossard, Caciedo and the persistent rumours. What will be will be. I'm excited by the stream of youngsters coming through, a few of whom you saw last night. I'll take anything going me, my expectations aren't that lofty really. I would have taken this season happily at the start - it's been great so far (even the day out to Forest Green Rovers in the Carabou Cup) . I would just like one European away trip, just one - then I'll be happy. 😊13 points
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Well reading this thread is a nice way to pass the time on the 2nd to last leg of my journey home 🥴 I enjoyed my stay in Newcastle except for the first half last night. 2nd half (as v Everton) with the changes we improved dramatically and took the game to you I thought. Pushing up in numbers again caught us out though. Good luck for the rest of the season and look forward to watching you in Europe next year. We've still a chance just need a couple of results including something from Villa Park on the last day I think. See you next season 😊13 points
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Of course our owners weren’t there. There’s absolutely no link between our ownership and the government of Saudi Arabia. I can’t stand these state owned clubs. Ruins it for the rest of us plucky underdogs.13 points
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You buy her a ring and a dildo, that way if she doesn’t like the ring she can go fuck herself.12 points
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https://www.football365.com/news/fuming-liverpool-write-pgmol-two-decisions-aston-villa12 points
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Nothing like an early morning wank to start off your day.12 points
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Aston Villa, fucking great team. Never said a bad word about them, me.12 points
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I just want to take a moment to congratulate all those that voted for me to start this match thread. You held your nerve, and you've all been rewarded. For those of you that didn't vote for me, NEVER doubt me again you little CUNTS.12 points
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About a week ago or something I made a post where I said Eddie wasn’t quite world class, yet. Starting with him saving us from what was an almost nailed on relegation, to his incredible ability to turn average players in to world beaters, to his humility when faced with his repeated success, he’s absolutely, unquestionably, world fucking class. I’m under no illusion that next season doesn’t have plenty of potential Holden McGroins, but I can’t think of another manager I’d rather have leading us through it. The best thing about it all, is that had, by some miracle, this happened under Ashley, we’d be wondering which “big” club he’d be moving on to… … now though, who, genuinely, could take him off us?12 points
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The game's gone. What happened to the days when you could skullfuck a seagull on the way to the ground, shit in your seat at halftime, and watch your favourite paedophile score, all without some arsehole attacking you?12 points
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It was my idea of hell tbh. And it fucking reeked of bother, as well as actually reeking. I just remembered I went once at about 12 noon with about 4 other other lads prior to a work Xmas dinner at the Swallow Hotel which you also accessed via the Newgate Street Shopping Centre. It looked even worse when it was empty. That would’ve been 1996-ish. Also just remembered this lad I went to school with telling me about how he decided to go and watch the cup final there when we got beat off Arsenal. He told me he wore dark combat pants as he’d concluded it would be too busy to go to the toilet so he would just piss himself instead. That just about sums the place up11 points
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I hope we’re annoying the entitled, helium-voiced cunts for decades to come11 points
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Mowbray babes is a fair comparison to the busby babes imho. Busby babes v Mowbray babies BB Duncan Edwards finest player of his generation youngest England international at the time. V TM Luke o9 also known as clogger 14/15 Wealdstone 15/18 Wycombe Wanderers ,also been interviewed carrying a bag of dogs shit,BB went on to win the European cup a decade later with Best & Charlton 2 all time greats against the mighty Benfica from the world renowned Estadio da la luz, Mackem’babies beat the mighty Tranmere Rovers of birkenhead lifting the Papa Johns cup with ermm Burge & Scowen ,TM little babies have 1 premier league standard player on loan from Man Utd who asked supporters to stop singing about his cock. BB before the Munich disaster would of dominated Europe for years, TM babies finished 26 places below champions league places and only hope of getting to Europe is when the tides out on holy island.11 points
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Was at the match tonight. What an atmosphere! Beat Leicester and we have our 2nd highest points total in our Premier League history11 points
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Looking back just over 19 months ago we were the butt of everyone's jokes. We were helpless to do anything but watch as the club was on course for certain relegation & would still have been down now. The way this club has been turned around in those 19 months is brilliant. Nobody could have dreamed we be were we are now. I think tonight it'll be a duel effort as the team lift the crowd at SJP the crowd will carry the team. If we achieve Champions League we will be linked with all the top class players rather than scratching around in the bargain basement. One more big push tonight will edge us closer to that we'll deserved CL spot. Deserved for the club, manager, players & the fans. Howay The Lads11 points
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Eric Gates! Kate Adie! Adam Johnson! Micky Gray! Jackie Milburn! (as a boy) Wearside Jack! Niall Quinn! Steve Cram! Durham Cathedral! Athletic Bilbao! Total football! Your boys took one hell of a beating tonight11 points
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Democracy honks, especially this thread which is as corrupt as Putin's Russia. I mean the state of the title man. "Stuttering Brighton" have just beaten what were the champions elect until a month ago, and are guaranteed second. 3 fucking nil away from home. And why did he put "Stuttering"? Cos he jumped the gun after they were slaughtered by an Everton team HE told us were relegated! It may be time to consider the unthinkable. Start a parallel thread for the true supporters. Salvage want we can. Abandon thread.11 points
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I have something to tell you and I hope you don't ban me from the forum because it's something I discovered yesterday. Atlético de Madrid, in its beginnings, wore Blue and white because they used old Blackburn Rovers shirts. From 1903 to 1909 the team played like this. But in 1909, a gentleman went to England to buy new uniforms for Atleti and couldn't get them, so he decided to buy the Southampton uniforms. For this reason, since then, Atletico de Madrid has played in red and white. I found out yesterday that there is a new study and investigation that says that it may not actually be Southampton kits... but Sunderland kits.11 points
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He is like the Sam Allardyce of the Toontastic board. Continually tells everyone how great he is at predictions with nothing to back it up with.11 points
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So IMO they're on the 5 stages of grief with this. Somewhere between denial and anger. And they're going to be there forever, which is why they're so hilarious. They could get over this tomorrow by just saying "aye you know what, wish it was us - gonna be great for them, really jealous but nothing I can do about it marra. Just gonna support me own team and crack one out over a seagull" Just own it you fucking losers, it's the denial that makes it so painful for you11 points
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I don’t know about anyone else, but after Wilson’s 2nd I ran over the road to the gay couple’s house and killed them and their kid in celebration. Shame it was disallowed.11 points
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He’s a proper bully like. And the very epitome of a bad loser. I wouldn’t mind so much if he was honest about and didn’t try to cultivate that mr nice guy persona when things are going well. He’s in that Mourinho category where he wouldn’t say a fucking dicky bird away to Blakelaw Social on a Sunday morning but he’s got loads of front when there’s about 20 backroom staff and the same amount of tv cameras to protect him.11 points
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To be fair, we were an awful fan base back then and it was all our fault. Some people might say but the fans are the same and it is the manager who changed. However, that is just testament to how horrible we are as fans.11 points
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I've done my part again for you ungrateful bastids. Another journey to visit family in Pakistan and although I've arrived a couple of hours before the game starts, I've decided it still counts. You're welcome.11 points