Jimbo

Has he really been found out ? look at his final months at Bolton they took sixteen points from a possible forty-eight and were conceding two goals a game. In the same period Newcastle under Roeder also won four and gained one more point than the Trotters. In both cases, it was relegation form over an extended period. It was enough to get Roeder the sack, and yet Allardyce got the Newcastle job. Is it any surprise he's performing so badly ?

That speaks volumes.

Why has it got to be someone thats "available" ?

and there was me, foolish enough to expect some progress. We've progressed in that we're higher than we were last season. I still can't see how we're any worse though. Watch the highlights, I'm sure you'll change your mind.

and there was me, foolish enough to expect some progress.

Its ok lads ! Just think how great we'll be in 5 years time ! Sam said so !

Talksport commentator at the JJB: "3 points for Wigan lucky for Newcastle cannot be deducted points for this shambolic performance" Big Sam's black and white army !

FYP

A change of manager has clearly had no benifit to Wigan has it.

look at that.. liverpool drawing with derby. Sack Benitez!!! omg lolz11111 Is it at Anfield ?

I predict a win for Newcastle just to keep the Allardyce sympathisers perculating.

Your a journalist's dream, the kind who'd rather lose playing well in a 5-4 than win but not in a pretty way. I'd take 38 1-0 wins all with own goals if it meant success. The Keegan years are long gone, get a reality check. If you're happy with the brand of football on display at St James' park, then good for you, welcome to the Allardyce brand of football, don't expect a graceful evolution into anything better, this is it ! this is as good as it gets under Allardyce. All I know is that its not the kind of football I want to be watching, especially when you are watching it when you're struggling against the likes of Derby, Fulham and Birmingham to name but a few.

Monsters INC pisses on it in my opinion.

Feel sick after too much Lego Star Wars on the Wii.

I have to question whether you saw the game! We certainly had more of the game in the first half than Derby did and we should have put the match beyond their reach, but the second half was theirs until the last few minutes. We had to come from behind twice to salvage a point. Derby were unlucky not to get 3 points and for most of the second half it looked like they were going to get the win until Viduka scored that late goal. Why is that then? I know this will be instantly written off because "stats prove nothing" but.. We had around 60% possesion 17 shots to their 6 9 corners to their 2 Now I saw with my own eyes we dominated them but you can't really argue with those stats can you? I am sure if they were against us the negative posters on the forum would be looking at them and shaking their heads. class mate Well we did, the same way Spurs dominated us when we somehow managed to beat them 3-2 with the Martins screamer last year. That was an away match in London that we were expected to lose, not a match at home against possibly the worst Premier League team in histor that has been mullered by other teams this year. I don't think you got the point I was trying to make. The point I was making was you can still dominate a team (ie have the vast majority of play, attacking chances etc...) but can still lose. Even though we drew against Derby we were by far the better side and the stats back this up. We gave them 2 goals and they were the only 2 chances they had on target. We had more possesion and a lot more attacking chances we just didn't take them. The one statistic is that we failed to beat a fucking shite team and looked shite in the process yet again. If you want to sit around all day studying statistics and gazing at the league table then thats fine, but what I want to see is Newcastle United playing football that doesn't make me feel ashamed and embarrased.

I have to question whether you saw the game! We certainly had more of the game in the first half than Derby did and we should have put the match beyond their reach, but the second half was theirs until the last few minutes. We had to come from behind twice to salvage a point. Derby were unlucky not to get 3 points and for most of the second half it looked like they were going to get the win until Viduka scored that late goal. Why is that then? I know this will be instantly written off because "stats prove nothing" but.. We had around 60% possesion 17 shots to their 6 9 corners to their 2 Now I saw with my own eyes we dominated them but you can't really argue with those stats can you? I am sure if they were against us the negative posters on the forum would be looking at them and shaking their heads. class mate Well we did, the same way Spurs dominated us when we somehow managed to beat them 3-2 with the Martins screamer last year. That was an away match in London that we were expected to lose, not a match at home against possibly the worst Premier League team in histor that has been mullered by other teams this year.

What exactly did they "achieve" ?

You want me to bore you with a list of managers who are better than Allardyce ? Show us the list you put up last time that included the likes of David Moyes ffs. Like for like. I believe Moyes went through a bit of a rough patch at Everton as well - no doubt if you were following them you would have wanted the fucker out at the time. Weren't you petitioning the name Alex Mcleish at one stage Jimbo? And ? He's doing a cracking job at Birmingham, did you see the goal they conceded from the throw in? Textbook Thats right, ignor his titles with Rangers, ignor his win prcentage of 70% with Scotland and being bad enough to beat France. You been on the sherry already Jimbob? And if you haven't away and start on it and stop fucking moaning for one day... Oh and Merry Xmas... That'll teach me to cut and paste from wikipedia ! *Hick

You want me to bore you with a list of managers who are better than Allardyce ? Show us the list you put up last time that included the likes of David Moyes ffs. Like for like. I believe Moyes went through a bit of a rough patch at Everton as well - no doubt if you were following them you would have wanted the fucker out at the time. Weren't you petitioning the name Alex Mcleish at one stage Jimbo? And ? He's doing a cracking job at Birmingham, did you see the goal they conceded from the throw in? Textbook Thats right, ignor his titles with Rangers, ignor his win prcentage of 70% with Scotland and being bad enough to beat France.

My kids got a Wii this morning, no injuries yet, but there's still time !

Bloody hell jimbo, you dont ask for much! Bet you were one of those kids who wanted the whole of the Fenwicks toy dept and not just one or two things. Greedy aren't I.

3 Points will do for me.

oh the joys of Xmas presents so far I have a necklace, some perfume, Dirty Dancing special edition dvd,(hurrah) Joshua Tree Special edition cd ( hurrah) and the new Patricia Cornwell book, not bad so far !! Happy Xmas xx I downloaded that last month, its superb.

You want me to bore you with a list of managers who are better than Allardyce ? Show us the list you put up last time that included the likes of David Moyes ffs. Like for like. I believe Moyes went through a bit of a rough patch at Everton as well - no doubt if you were following them you would have wanted the fucker out at the time. Weren't you petitioning the name Alex Mcleish at one stage Jimbo? And ? Merry Christmas you grumpy Aussie bastard! Humbug !