Jimbo

Not yet but Pearson has: Newcastle assistant boss Nigel Pearson: "It was a poor performance from us but I thought they were exceptional and we have to put matters right. "We have to work hard and stay with each other and it will happen, there is no place to hide and we don't plan to. "We must put these kind of performances behind us because they are not up to the standard we expect from ourselves."

Today was a masterclass on how to get EVERYTHING wrong. Its hard to imagine how anyone could make so many mistakes.

Are you shagging Allardyce or something ?

And ? getting rid of a manager after 14 games would add another 100 weight of support to the theory that this club is a fucking cartoon of itself. this was never going to be fixed in one season let alone 14 games. indicative of the quick fix mentality of this country. You all want a plaster, when what we need is a splint. If you're looking for some for of kudos for calling for patience you find none here, Allardyce has a 5 year plan, don't make me fucking laugh, should we have given Souness more time ? or Roeder ? We have appointed the wrong man, and if you can't see that after this performance you need to wake up and smell the coffee my friend. Will you still be in denial when we are at the foot of the table ? Come the new year we'll probably find out. The man has lost the crowd and the dressing room, that equals no future. Sorry mate, you know I respect your opinions but this bit is crap. You've not been enamoured with Allardyce from the out, but to be calling for his head now, when we're still midtable, is the epitome of impatience. I need to know what exactly were you expecting? 5th spot, playing Brazil football and incredibvle tactical acumen? This club was in an horrific state, I can't believe anyone with an ounce of sense is calling for his head already. Surely you understand the need for calm and a measured adjustment of expectations for this season? I don't expect Brazilian style football, but I expect a manager that can pick something that resembles a logical starting XI, that can motivate players, can make correct substitutions, can change things for the better when things go wrong, but we do not have that, today he lost the crowd and I wouldn't be surprised if he lost the dressing room too, I cannot see how you turn that around. I was all for Allardyce's appointment, I thought given the state of the club his professional and scientific approach was exactly what this club needed, but I truely and honestly feel we have appointed the wrong man and the only way is down, Allardyce is no better than Souness or Roeder or Gullit, I can see that now, it seems some of us need a little bit longer.

Thankfully liverpool stopped playing after that 3rd went in, shame we never started.

And ? getting rid of a manager after 14 games would add another 100 weight of support to the theory that this club is a fucking cartoon of itself. this was never going to be fixed in one season let alone 14 games. indicative of the quick fix mentality of this country. You all want a plaster, when what we need is a splint. If you're looking for some for of kudos for calling for patience you find none here, Allardyce has a 5 year plan, don't make me fucking laugh, should we have given Souness more time ? or Roeder ? We have appointed the wrong man, and if you can't see that after this performance you need to wake up and smell the coffee my friend. Will you still be in denial when we are at the foot of the table ? Come the new year we'll probably find out. The man has lost the crowd and the dressing room, that equals no future.

And ?

The scary thing is, we've still got the best part of 20mins of this shit.

3-0 Babel, if the game wasn't over before, it is now.

Whats the betting he blames the fans for winding up Gerrard ?

Steve McClaren will be thanking his lucky stars that there is a laughing stock bigger than him !

Thats it ! I'm done !!! Milner on for N'Zogbia listen to that crowd !! "You don't know what you're doing"

Mark my words, not only has Allardyce lost the crowd, he's lost the dressing room too.

Barton on for Emre, hardly a creative move is it.

Barton coming on 4 mins after half-time, Get it wrong in the dressing room did we Samuel ?

FYP

Fuck me, look at the faces of the players come out of the tunnel for the second half ! That doesn't fill you with confidence !

I know I'm going to get hammered by some folk for this but I've had enough, this isn't knee-jerk or lack of patience, to me this is simply recognising early that we have the wrong man in charge, for too many times this season a match has been lost as soon as the team sheet was pinned to the dressing room wall, for all his sports science and analytical approach and "modern" management techniques we are achieving nothing, give me decent coaching and management over this any day. No doubt there will be plenty that disagree with me, but I guarantee that sooner or later you'll be agreeing, and sadly we'll be closer to the foot of the table by the time you do.

If this was a boxing match the ref would have stopped the fight.

Unrest in the dressing-room adds to trouble for Sam Allardyce Matt Dickinson, Chief Sports Correspondent Sam Allardyce heads into a testing few weeks as the Newcastle United manager, yet to convince his own players that he can turn around the club’s fortunes. Senior members of his squad are known to be at odds with Allardyce, who has picked up just one Barclays Premier League point in nine before matches against Liverpool, Blackburn Rovers and Arsenal. Allardyce’s tactics have already caused some disquiet among the club’s fans, but there is also unease in his dressing-room. The manager is aware of the unrest, which may explain why he recently spoke about needing three to five years to bring success to Newcastle. It is a familiar story on Tyneside, where the club seem to be constantly on the brink of crisis. The picture is complicated by the fact that the owner, Mike Ashley, did not appoint Allardyce but inherited him after his takeover of the club in June. Chris Mort, the chairman appointed by Ashley, has been critical of recent performances, which have included a 4-1 defeat at home to Portsmouth. The big question is whether Allardyce will get proper backing, and patience, from the board. Six months is no time at all to judge whether the methods that were so successful at Bolton Wanderers can work at St James’ Park but he will not be helped by the whispers of unrest. Related Links Allardyce is trying to change the club at many levels, from a new gym and massage rooms to the style of play. His training methods are believed to be far more rigid than the previous regimes of Graeme Souness and Glenn Roeder. Allardyce would say that that is a good thing, but it seems to have come as an unpleasant shock to some of the players. The manager admitted to teething problems in a recent interview. “I think the difficulty at the moment lies with everyone being so new,” he said. “I don’t think anyone realises that when you change so much it is difficult to get things right overnight.” The board backed him recently in the recruitment of Paul Barron, one of the country’s outstanding goalkeeping coaches, from Middlesbrough, but they will want to see results improve. That is unlikely in the short-term as they face Liverpool today before the trip to Ewood Park and then the meeting with Arsenal. Allardyce revealed the pressure he is under when he snapped at the local media last week. He accused them of whipping up supporter disenchantment with his direct style of football. “It is probably more volatile and more unacceptable than I expected here,” he said. As Newcastle host Liverpool, it is a confrontation between managers who are not only uneasy at their clubs but also uncomfortable in each other’s company. Asked to describe his relationship with Rafael BenÍtez, Allardyce was pointed: “Average - a bad average I would say,” he said. “He doesn’t like me.” Why? “Because we beat them. And Bolton were not supposed to beat a team like Liverpool. We played a different game with different rules, apparently. But I didn’t see any referee’s report saying we played outside the rules, so it was just a bit of self-protection [from BenÍtez].” Newcastle will be without Michael Owen, who strained his thigh on international duty in England’s game against Austria. The forward’s bad luck with injuries is another cause of frustration on Tyneside. Damien Duff has been another long-term absentee, but he is back in training. It remains to be seen how Allardyce intends to shape his team when everyone is available. He arrived at the club with plans for 4-3-3 but has been forced to chop and change. He ruled himself out of the running for the England job this week, but he would not be in contention this time around. BenÍtez, though, has expressed an interest, which gives the rivals something to talk about in Allardyce’s office. “I don’t see why I won’t be inviting him in for a glass of wine afterwards,” he said. “I went in for a glass of wine when Liverpool beat us 2-0 and he’d spoken about me in the papers the day before. I was big enough to walk in and test how good his red wine is.”

Totally shockingly woeful performance so far to be fair, more importantly !!! We look like a fucking pub team Yet another game thrown away due to team selection, that is the most basic of managerial duties.

Totally shockingly woeful performance so far to be fair, more importantly !!!

Whats with the Gerrard love-in ? He's a fucking prick.

Game over, this is as bad as I've ever seen, and I've seen some shite.

3 at the back !!! Why hasn't this clueless prick put Geremi at right back and played 4 at the back ? we are going to get fucking humped !