DesperateDannyB

Why don't you go and hang yourself from a tree in protest you boring bastard. Im not protesting anything you spastic dwarf, Im all for it. At least we've found Harvey Price's online identity.

Intellectual masturbation aside, as I said for the vast majority their God is very defineable - and demonstrably ridiculous. I don't see how rationality can be dismissed as trendy or populist. Then it is the instituation you need to mock, not the idea of god or peoples beliefs....because for all we KNOW it could be a big man with a grey beard somewhere.....doin' a smitin'

I didnt. He just encapsulated nincely my "straw man argument" Ricky Gervais is attacking religion....oh it must be cool and intelligent, lets do the same shall we....ooh Oh look its Charlie Brooker, hes great in the guardian ha ha hes so funny. People try to look like free thinkers and end up looking like sheep. The problem is that you are stating or rather implying that all people who dont believe in religion are influenced by the likes of Ricky Gervais and Charlie Brooker. I myself dont believe in religion, but its got nothing to do with popular culture, its to do with my unease that the so called "men of god" abuse children, and that religion causes wars... how is that a "godly" way of life? In fact a lot of athiests probably lead a much more "devine" lifestyle than those who are religious. Religion also flies in the face of facts... "you must believe" they say... why must I believe? Especially when all the evidence points to that belief being completely wrong? Dont get me wrong I actually believe in forces at work that we can't explain... I dont believe them to be "devine" as such, but I do believe in spirituality and some sort of eternal plain which we ascend to. However religion is massively outdated and doesnt reflect society as it is now... it contradicts that which is known to be correct and implies that it's right regardless... and that isnt really a solid foundation for me to live my life by. Science also has its own problems, but again thats a completely different argument I am talking about those who actively attack my faith, not those who choose to believe something different.

They're as diametrically opposed as any two things can be - no amount of apologist twisting can change that. Wrong. The problem, at rock bottom, is this: If nothing happens without a cause, then something must have caused the universe to appear. But then we are faced with the inevitable question of what caused that something. And so on in an infinite regress. Some people simply proclaim that God created the universe, but children always want to know who created God, and that line of questioning gets uncomfortably difficult. One evasive tactic is to claim that the universe didn't have a beginning, that it has existed for all eternity. Unfortunately, there are many scientific reasons why this obvious idea is unsound. For starters, given an infinite amount of time, anything that can happen will already have happened, for if a physical process is likely to occur with a certain nonzero probability-however small-then given an infinite amount of time the process must occur, with probability one. By now, the universe should have reached some sort of final state in which all possible physical processes have run their course. Furthermore, you don't explain the existence of the universe by asserting that it has always existed. That is rather like saying that nobody wrote the Bible: it was. just copied from earlier versions. Quite apart from all this, there is very good evidence that the universe did come into existence in a big bang, about fifteen billion years ago. The effects of that primeval explosion are clearly detectable today-in the fact that the universe is still expanding, and is filled with an afterglow of radiant heat. So if nothing happens without a cause, what caused the beginning of the universe? Surely as it defies the laws of physics, it is by definition something devine, wouldnt you say? Goal post moving shite as usual. The vast majority of Theists don't know, understand or believe in a 14bn year old universe. Everything they do actually believe in has been proven to be wrong beyond ny kind of doubt. It's only since the big bang has been theorised that philosophical bullshit like that has been invented. I actually admire the honesty of Creationists more than the twisting insanity of people like you. As I said in my first post, it depends how you define g-d. I think the problem is that mans stupidity over the years has made the whole idea seem ridiculous...of course it is the same popular culture that built religion to be a grey haired man in the sky, that is now seeking to break it down. I find it similar to the "ROONEY IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD / ROONEY IS CRAP" rubbish you read in the tabloids whenever he is going through whatever run of form he is in at the time. Popular consciousness. Sheep thinking.

I didnt. He just encapsulated nincely my "straw man argument" Ricky Gervais is attacking religion....oh it must be cool and intelligent, lets do the same shall we....ooh Oh look its Charlie Brooker, hes great in the guardian ha ha hes so funny. People try to look like free thinkers and end up looking like sheep.

Nah i copied it. Didnt realise we had to include appendices on our posts now The above is an extract from a piece by Paul Davies theoretical physicist and professor of natural philosophy at the University of Adelaide.

They're as diametrically opposed as any two things can be - no amount of apologist twisting can change that. Wrong. The problem, at rock bottom, is this: If nothing happens without a cause, then something must have caused the universe to appear. But then we are faced with the inevitable question of what caused that something. And so on in an infinite regress. Some people simply proclaim that God created the universe, but children always want to know who created God, and that line of questioning gets uncomfortably difficult. One evasive tactic is to claim that the universe didn't have a beginning, that it has existed for all eternity. Unfortunately, there are many scientific reasons why this obvious idea is unsound. For starters, given an infinite amount of time, anything that can happen will already have happened, for if a physical process is likely to occur with a certain nonzero probability-however small-then given an infinite amount of time the process must occur, with probability one. By now, the universe should have reached some sort of final state in which all possible physical processes have run their course. Furthermore, you don't explain the existence of the universe by asserting that it has always existed. That is rather like saying that nobody wrote the Bible: it was. just copied from earlier versions. Quite apart from all this, there is very good evidence that the universe did come into existence in a big bang, about fifteen billion years ago. The effects of that primeval explosion are clearly detectable today-in the fact that the universe is still expanding, and is filled with an afterglow of radiant heat. So if nothing happens without a cause, what caused the beginning of the universe? Surely as it defies the laws of physics, it is by definition something devine, wouldnt you say?

Also amusing all the conspiricy theorists that will believe it is signs of aliens whilst dismissing rational arguments. Its a fake BTW. There is no proof of aliens, most if not all pics & videos are fakes or mis-identifications. If there are weird craft flying around in our skies there's a fair chance most if not all are human created and secret projects. However despite all that it still makes a whole lot more sense that there's such things as "aliens" over "god(s)" Depends how you define g-d doesnt it? Its common amongst atheists to believe religion and science are at odds, nothing could be further from the truth.....but its trendy to laugh at religious types whilst believing beyond all doubt (and against scientific proof) that 9-11 was an inside job. People trying to look intelligent innit.

Meh, as long as they are protected from development. Stuff it, sell them.

Also amusing all the conspiricy theorists that will believe it is signs of aliens whilst dismissing rational arguments. Its a fake BTW.

so once they are sod, canthe owner just do what they want with them? Or are they being forced to maintain them? I need more info before steaming in. It could be lateral thinking like this that gets us out of the mess were in financially.

Andy will be playing with "ROLL" on the back of his Liverpool shirt.............. The scousers have already stolen his car. YES!! Here all night ladies.

Stevie, you are a fraction from being The big Sam, I look forward to when you slip over than line.

RT @leazeslad Guaranteed to get some Sibierski type loan in by 5pm, my sources tell me there's legs in the Heskey thing #source?

RT @Leazeslad As well as 4 Jagerbombs,Carroll downed 2 pints of Fosters and around 6 bottles of Peroni" what a hellraiser, I wudnt even turn oot for that #nailsandofftherails

I am going to spend the next hour trawling through your tweets to make an embarrassing top ten. hope you dont mind wor Stevie.

RT @LeazesLad @danny_dyer Awwite sahn, you should really be doing some more pwopa nawty international football factories, best telly of ther last 10 years #megalolz

Like Modric and Pienaar against Fulham's midfield. Christ, that bad? I cant imagine any stone has been left unturned on here so no point digging over it. I'll let you all wallow.

How are we all coping, is it safe to come on yet?

Ashley surely isnt tryin to makehimselflook like the good guy by paying Carroll to hand in a request? selling him is hardly going to change fans opinions of him???

Man leaves work exclusive!!! LOVE DEADLINE DAY

awwwww looks like hes turned you down, wants to go to a big club Who, Carroll? Forgive me if I dont shed a tear over missing out on that one.

Apparently NUFC lining up Mutu as a replacement

Well, that was a cunting of intergalactic proportions.

Some spurs ITD saying weve made a bid for Enrique. No mention amongst those ITK of the Carroll bid. So that says to me the Carroll one is real and the enrique one is not.