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Is Football so different here these days. I've never been to a 4 hour game of football. I have, I've also been to an all day game of cricket, no difference IMO

Is Football so different here these days. I'd like to think so. And people forget that more people attend matches outside than inside the PL too[/b]. I agree, I'd like to think so to, but I believe I'm wrong if I do. Emirates Stadium, Ford Super Sunday, EON FA cup etc etc etc 6 billion Johnny Foreigners just waiting to be plucked by the right product. Dwarfs the domestic market let alone that part of the domestic market that actually turns up at a game.

Is Football so different here these days.

Football is too graceful and complicated for Americans. If things aren't exploding or beefcakes aren't running into each other at 30mph they don't really think it's a sport. The word you were looking for was "boring". Take your Newcastle supporting head off for a minute and look at some of the shite we've been served up of late. If you didn't have the emotional attachment of a fan, would you consider it entertaining? The biggest market for football is with the people who don't go to the games, the only difference to the clubs is the gate receipt, sell a couple of shirts to neutrals and you've covered a match attender for the week. In the US there are a lot of people who are what we call proper fans but the majority of viewers just "watch the sport" all the games are televised (sort of) and if the game you're watching is crap you switch to another one. Remember there's only 32 teams in the whole continent, local attraction and the associated fan feeling we have is limited. It's a bit like when you're out for a walk and there's a game of footy at the local park, you'll likely stop and watch for a while, just because there's a game going on. Commercially the big sports administrators just want people to watch, they don't give a shit whether they're there at the game or sat in front of the TV. BTW American Football is one of the most complicated games around.

The average age of supporters attending matches may be going up, but there's plenty of younguns who follow the game via the box, and that's where the real money is. There's a whole new flock of geese on the block, the old one has been culled.

1 - you'd be surprised 2- Totally different, as there is no local equivalent to support IF you like that sport. You can't apply traditional football fan values (sadly) to a vast marketplace. Big difference between the NFL and the Prem League in that there are only 32 teams in the whole of the continental USA and the game is built around TV because of the vast market that exists for the very few teams. The prem league are basically following the NFL model to promote the 20 teams (or however many it ends up) through TV and playing abroad to a vast audience. The need for local fans is becomming secondary and sadly I think that is irreversable. The local market is saturated. If you think about it how hard would it really be to top the income generated by 50,000 fans who actually attend games,with a global TV audience, 1 million viewiers anywhere on the planet paying a quid a game for TV would do it, and they'll get a heck of a lot more viewers than that. Thin end of the wedge this proposal IMO, Cue NFL style playoffs and a Superbowl equivalent for the Championship played abroad in the "highest bidder" city, it'd make gazillions.

Toast is the modern soldier the traditional soldier is bread A bit like traditional craftsmen used to have broad regional accents, now they all speak Polish

Modern revisionist bollocks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love the Eagle books very good historically. Me too until the 6th one, got very silly and characters became shallow. Sadly nowhere near the consistency of Cornwell. Try Conn Igguldens Emperor series absolutely fantastic (first one shows he's a new writer - the writting style - but he hits his stride towards the end of it and the rest are excellent)

Is the right answer Toasted soldiers only came about with the advent of wrapped machine sliced bread and electric toasters. Saying soldiers are made from toast is like saying football was invented by SKY

Not - They'd have let him walk with nowt

Bookies doon sooth taking in ££££'s on Jol Hope not, he'd likely buy back the goldfish puff

Under the terms of his severance from Chelski isn't Jose "off the market" until the summer ????

On another forum far far away, someone who works in the rpess is saying that the Independant's footy blokes reckon its.............. McClaren Gotta be a wind up

Auchwitz1 If your going to joke about it, at least spell it right I visited it last weekend, and it's no joking matter tbh

That big black lad who's usually with him is his hired muscle, isn't he? No, he is the marketing director.

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Restless Natives, fondly rememberred from my youth Utter dated nothingness, music was still canny

Who nicked it from Skunkers, who nicked it from some bloke on the guardian blog

louise.taylor@guardian.co.uk

I know I shouldn't but

Crimson Fault's sister

why? what makes it any different to the paedo songs? singing about drunken centre halfs? Posh Spice taking it up the arse? Beardsley being ugly? or every other chant that has taken place against specific players? Still take bananas to matches to throw at the black players? Ignorace personified