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Everything posted by Craig
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Maybe, just maybe there's a glimmer of hope.....
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He was at the funeral of the oil workers lost in the helicopter crash. Front row, of course. Knew them personally no doubt
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Can't you make your mind up who to support Danny?
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Liverpool football fans have barracked the Minister for Culture, Media and Sport at the Hillsborough memorial service at Anfield. More than 25,000 attended the service at the stadium in Liverpool to mark the 20th anniversary of the disaster which left 96 football fans crushed to death. Andy Burnham MP was not listed on the order of service, but he was introduced to the crowd by Trevor Hicks, who lost two daughters at the stadium in Sheffield. When Mr Burnham said the 96 dead will never be forgotten, some fans heckled and the crowd broke into a chant of "Justice for the 96". The feelings among Liverpool fans are still raw and they are upset that nobody has ever been made legally responsible for the disaster. Mr Burnham waited for the singing to fade before continuing his prepared speech, but he had to contend with several more hecklers before returning to his seat. Was about to post the same - they want another public enquiry and being minister for Sport, this is the nearest they were going to get to someone who can make that decision. FWIW, I'm surprised that 'media whore' Gordon Brown wasn't there.
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I totally get what you're saying snakey. I've always been affected by it - the thought of what happened has sent shivers down my spine ever since. The lack of accountability has fuelled the feelings over the years. I do believe that if justice had been served, it wouldn't be as big a thing as it is. It's more than just Liverpool though - football itself changed that day. It was heading in a direction where we'd all have been branded as a problem - fans had been contained within cages and then the government wanted everyone to carry an identity card. It's because of what happened on that day that football is the way it is today in my book. The fact that it was Liverpool fans and happened at Hillsborough is inconsequential. It could have happened at any time, to any club in any stadium. With my lass being a Liverpool fan, I have had more visibility to it than I did before. I saw her about an hour ago and she broke down, says she's been doing so all day long and then was profusely apologetic for doing so. Still after all these years it hurts her like hell and she didn't even go. Danny is right - it is a time for rememberance but not just about those who died. We should appreciate the good it did for the game, particualrly making it a safer environment so that the young generations can watch and enjoy the beautiful game. BUt it didn't, it happened to the same club's fans twice !! Comparing Heysel & Hillsborough is ridiculous. They're two totally different situations, the only commonality being that the result was the death of football fans within a sporting arena. Whilst blame cannot be taken away from the Liverpool fans entirely, they're not the reason the Hillsborough disaster happened, nor could you genuinely claim that had it been another club it would have been a different outcome. Heysel they were liable for, although the Juve fans weren't entirely blameless. Hillsborough was something else.
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I totally get what you're saying snakey. I've always been affected by it - the thought of what happened has sent shivers down my spine ever since. The lack of accountability has fuelled the feelings over the years. I do believe that if justice had been served, it wouldn't be as big a thing as it is. It's more than just Liverpool though - football itself changed that day. It was heading in a direction where we'd all have been branded as a problem - fans had been contained within cages and then the government wanted everyone to carry an identity card. It's because of what happened on that day that football is the way it is today in my book. The fact that it was Liverpool fans and happened at Hillsborough is inconsequential. It could have happened at any time, to any club in any stadium. With my lass being a Liverpool fan, I have had more visibility to it than I did before. I saw her about an hour ago and she broke down, says she's been doing so all day long and then was profusely apologetic for doing so. Still after all these years it hurts her like hell and she didn't even go. Danny is right - it is a time for rememberance but not just about those who died. We should appreciate the good it did for the game, particualrly making it a safer environment so that the young generations can watch and enjoy the beautiful game.
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It wasn't the numbers, it was the concentration within the central pens. The Leppings Lane terrace had lateral divisions and prevented those within a full pen to move sideways. I read an account earlier of somone who was in pen 3. Said he got into the ground at 2.30 and with the pen already packed, he stood at the back. 15 minutes later he was halfway to the pitch and those who had been in front of him at 2.30 were STILL in front of him!
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Did you listen how the southern shandy drinkers shut the fuck up when Liverpool took the lead again? Deathly silence - call themselves supporters? Them fucking sandcastle flags were an embarrasment an all. Hate it when clubs 'organise' that gubbins. Looked particularly bad against Liverpool given that they're the only British club that do flags properly. Tyldsley summed it up tbh - "Chelsea gave away free flags to all their supporters tonight" *camera pans to the scousers* "This lot brought their own, they always do."
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Did you listen how the southern shandy drinkers shut the fuck up when Liverpool took the lead again? Deathly silence - call themselves supporters?
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Been a pleasure to watch that
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Best European match I've ever watched. Scousers will argue the match in Istanbul was better but not a chance - this has had everything!!!
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4-4 All over now like....
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Must say like, the cockney wideboys walking round work today with the smug grins on their faces could do with them having them wiped off!!!
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4-3 Liverpool - Fucking hell!
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3-3!!!! This has been one hell of a game
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Saudi Telecom have been strongly suspected for some time. As for the size, Man United are one hell of advertising space. For the period this shirt is likely to be worn, I'd suspect a new sponsor to give a little.
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That wasn't a free-kick, it was a fucking bullet!
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Thought the same at first... but the touch from Drogba did him...
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Which was surprisingly 100 years ago...
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Fucking hell Chelsea are as gash tonight as Liverpool were last week... Whoever wins this is going to get absolutely raped by Barcelona in the Semis...
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Hardcore Pensioner Porn? WTF??
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Anyone else wondering what those internet shortcuts are directing to on Laz's desktop?
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The 'Hillsborough' docu-drama (that Alex alludes to earlier in this thread) is being shown at 9pm on Wednesday night. I urge anyone who wants to get a clear understanding of what took place that day to watch it. As for those who died at Hillsborough, there's a fitting tribute in Steve Wilson's (a Liverpool fan who was there that day) blog on the BBC site, in particular this extract: