Ken

I know, we both mentioned it pages ago. Just posted the article up so people understand the method behind the madness from Kimmy's POV.

Cheeky little megalomaniac; http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/2106357/kim-jong-un-just-wants-stay-power-any-normal-dictator-and

Well you responded. What does that say, Fishy? Engage Wofly again. That is your forte.

Poetic? Bless.

Rayvin has handled himself well. Kudos. Fish, you are are bullocks. What south is trying to rise again? If you are referring to America then you are a fool, a bigger fool than I thought you were.

China's POV on the US/DPRK issue from the CCP's official mouthpiece; http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1059936.shtml And how China views the purpose of its military; http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1059132.shtml China's attitudes changed after the Americans bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade in 1999. They have moved away from strength in numbers towards a technologically advanced and mobile fighting force. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/26/china-gets-cutting-edge-military-tech-from-us-startups.html They are leaders of drone technology; http://thediplomat.com/2017/08/chinas-drone-missile-hybrid-the-next-step-in-naval-drone-warfare/ They are developing hypersonic weapons; http://www.news.com.au/technology/china-declares-success-of-hypervelocity-missile-program/news-story/f85c269edd0eb804ac6509486633cb4c Quantum satellite technology; http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40294795 Redirecting its strength in numbers by creating a massive marine corp which would have south east asian nations, Taiwan, Japan and America concerned; http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2078245/overseas-ambitions-expand-china-plans-400pc-increase

China are a modern military. Although a lot of what they have was stolen from America by cyber espionage and are inferior spinoffs they now have a base to advance with what they have. They are testing hypersonic missiles that we know of, and have aircraft carrier killers which cannot be defended against which makes America's super carriers almost obsolete in theory anyway. A land war would hurt America more and they are war weary. China still lacks an ability to project power but are working on it. They are mass producing naval assets and have nearly completed their first indigenous aircraft carrier with 2 more in the works. They will be a blue water navy pretty soon.

You underestimate the Chinese. This isn't 1950.

I agree. Both are cowboys. Both speak without putting thought into what comes out of the mouth so-to-speak and their intentions are to inject enthusiasm in their respective supporter bases. It is pure rhetoric. A nuclear arms race in the south China sea? No, this is northern Asia. Trump has had thoughts on cost cutting. Getting out of NATO and trimming expenditure in the Pacific were in his thought bubble leading up to the Presidential election. 40,000 military in SK and 30,000 in Japan and the costs associated with that even though those countries pay for most of their presence there. An example of his cluelessness about the world outside of his own. His thinking is if these countries have nuclear weapons NK or anyone else will not mess with them and so many troops would not be required. I am sure his advisers put him into line about it. Japan is a quasi-nuclear state anyway. A stockpile of enriched uranium and the industrial and technological prowess to mass produce. Back in the mid 90's iirc one of their politicians boasted that they could produce 1000 a year. Do I think it is good idea? Well NK and Pakistan have them, it is a fair argument to say why shouldn't two democratic and responsible nations who are allies have them as well.

And the official word from the CCP on China's stance which I have mentioned in earlier posts; http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/donald-trump-on-north-korea-maybe-i-wasnt-tough-enough-with-fire-and-fury-line/news-story/b7f0b3cff3592f475c8883c306f696a2

I think some people are melodramatic about Trump. Rhetoric is rhetoric. It is quite distinguishable actually. There is a clear difference between rhetoric and ulterior motive and action. Trump has said that he wants SK and Japan to share more of the burden of its own security even suggesting that they should join the nuclear club. It has people in those respective countries having serious thoughts about it.

You bored, frenzied cunt.

What happens if you attack a nuclear armed state man? Think about it...

Does it? You are caught up in the frenzy which has precedence. The only difference is a mouthy American president and NK's ever evolving nuclear arsenal and its delivery systems. OK, the stakes are much higher granted but it is the same BS.

It is chest beating man.

NK are just attempting to show the world that they have the means.

NK wouldn't dare. Japan have PAC-3 missile defences to blow it out of the sky. They have 20 AEGIS destroyers that can do the job too. Should that happen, NK would have been the instigator and a full blown intervention against it would be required.

That's good to know. Timely assurance. Foreign affairs like military interventions are beyond a President. Trump can say what he wants, he doesn't call the shots.

It won't with Trump either man. Relax, chill. Enjoy a Pims...

Global warming intermingled with this situation?!? WTF?!? No I won't bother reading the article Nothing to see here. Move on...

China and the USSR have aided in NK's missile technology. http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/north-korean-mystery-where-did-its-rockets-missiles-come-21202 Pakistan traded uranium enrichment technology in return for missile technology. https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2004_03/Pakistan

No, in the mid-term it is strictly regional. Firstly, the Chinese want America's influence in the Asia Pacific gone. Their aim long-term though, in decades to come, is to be the world's main power. They have a long way to go before they get there but it is there aim. The nations that make up South-East Asia aren't capable enough to counter-act against China. They are powerless. The only countries capable of standing up to China are of course America and Japan. India have the potential and are currently in a border standoff with China but they are realistically so disorganised and inefficient in their attempts to modernise.

Overconcerned?!? China first attempted to say their activities in the South China Sea were to help in maritime disasters. It was a guise for a military buildup which the UN denounced and which China laughed at. This is the first step in the Chinese Communist Party's efforts at regional control and ambitions of eventual hegemony. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/30/world/asia/what-china-has-been-building-in-the-south-china-sea.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/28/whats-behind-beijings-drive-control-south-china-sea-hainan The second step will be to tighten the noose on Taiwan and for it to come under the control of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) under the One China Policy. The third step will be to focus its efforts in the East and Japan and retake control of islands under Japanese administration, islands like Okinawa and the Senkakus. They base these claims on the fact that their history is thousands of years older so they must have been there first so they have right of way on them. I am not 'overconcerned', just more aware of what is going on and China's (CCP) intentions.

Of course it will not get better, but better never than now tbh, it is too late for any military intervention now. This isn't the Middle East, the adversaries and potential adversaries are much more dangerous. If America attacked NK China will not have any of it. Not only a refugee problem for them but China's sphere of influence would be compromised. China are already seething about SK's decision to use America's THAAD system which China says encroaches on its sovereignty. China will act similarly to what Russia has acted with Ukraine. The difference being China is building its military to match and eventually surpass Americas in time.