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Mohammad Shahrul wrote:Im scratching my head, is feeling sad and a knife just like stabbing my heart now... Its really hurt me when we lost badly... I love this club so much until I cant even bare see it collapsing like this... The nervous when it was getting me everytime Newcastle was launching an attack, like shaking my hand and fingers... The moment I saw at the TV Carroll did something to the Mighty Red shirt, shocked me. I was supporting and dreaming the win or draw when we were left 0-2 behind, destroyed my innermost watching our legendary Gerrard, Spearing and Shelvey struggling to protect the midfield, our back fortress. I hope our manager is going to lead us to success after this, for the good and sake of our club becoming the mighty one again.
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The post is spot on. The bit in bold sums it all up, if you remember when we were bairns Charlie and the Chocolate Factory used to be on at Christmas, one of the characters was a fat spoilt kid called Augustus Gloop, and if you remember the film, what happened to him happened to us. We'd become the Augustus Gloop of football clubs. Aye it's finding the players. Graham Carr's piece today is great. It's so simple. He fucks off to Holland, France or Germany, watches 3 games in a weekend and comes home. That is it. You get the impression the fucking agents were our scouts in the past at times. “I saw Papiss Cisse play for Metz when he first came over from Senegal. “Metz have sort of a school, and they take quite a lot of Senegalese players, but he didn’t have a passport at the time. I was working for Manchester City at the time, but he didn’t have a passport to come into the UK. So that ruled him out.” Carr kept a watching brief on Cisse’s progress, first at Metz and then Freiburg, as part of the dozens of matches he watches on the continent each month. That hard work and commitment has helped United land a number of players for cut-price fees, though Carr was quick to give credit to boss Alan Pardew, managing director Derek Llambias and secretary Lee Charnley for completing the deals. He added: “Cisse scored 20-odd goals two years ago in the Bundesliga. He was liked by Bayern Munich, They wanted £15m when we first enquired, and then it was 12, and we actually got him for eight in the last window which we thought was value for money. “At Newcastle, we haven’t been able to pay the big fees, so we’ve gone for what you might call realistic targets. “But I just go and watch matches. I go and pick up three matches in Holland, three in France over the weekend, or midweek, or in Germany, and I get a list of names together, sit down with the manager, Derek Llambias and Lee Charnley and our staff and we discuss them. “Then, if we think we want to sign one, then Lee Charnley goes and gets a price for him. “I’ve been doing the job for 14 years. I was at Tottenham for five years, chief scout at Manchester City for seven, and I’ve been mostly in Europe as well, so I’ve been been “on the job” for quite a long time. “So it’s just those players that came along. Cheik Tiote was available at the right price, at the right time. Hatem Ben Arfa had played in the national side for France, we got him on loan. Then we’ve had Cabaye and Cisse come in, and Sylvain Marveaux who hasn’t played yet. “I think Alan Pardew’s done a great job because he’s actually organised the side into a winning side. “Tiote has improved. Hatem Ben Arfa, he was a little bit temperamental in France, but I think Pardew’s putting an arm around him now and has got him playing to his true capabilities. “Yohan Cabaye had a get-out clause in his contract, which was a major signing for us. He was valued at £10m, but we found out he had a clause for £4.5m, so that really gave us the green light to go out and sign him and the club worked hard, actually, to get him. “The club have got to take a lot of credit. Derek Llambias, who works hard, Mike Ashley – they’ve put the money there, they’ve took the necessary stick from the supporters. “On the outside looking in, I was a bit, you know, what’s happened at Newcastle in the past. But since I’ve been in there working for them, I can’t speak too highly of them.”
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That's spot on. That would've been the case in the 90's too where for a period without any doubt we were the number 2 club, all self-financed as well. Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham in terms of generating money, were either generally level with us or well behind us, which Tottenham were until 2007. If Hall and FFS bought the club now, they'd find the competition a lot tougher in terms of blowing everyone else out of the water financially. We did that purely because Fletcher made us a money making machine, in terms of merchandise and sponsorship only Man Utd were out-doing us. In today's world the clubs who were slightly behind us then, have grown in size massively, and I agree 4th-10th is where we should expect to be, it's where we are, and as my first post today said, you can't keep saying they're cunts when they've finally began to produce a team this club should have, and also matching where we SHOULD be as a football club in the league table long term.
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Aye, I think in the past, it was just look we've got the money, they're class get them in. However I think the personalities of the players we were signing weren't seen as important, and neither was the reasons why the players were signing. We should never have signed Michael Owen, and the policy of these now I can see what it is, get players who are proud to play for this club for reasons other than their bank balance, and they're all good lads. There's none of them I genuinely don't like, years since I've been able to say that about them. We're probably the 6th or 7th club in this country in stature again, we were in ruins 3 years ago, utter ruins. Fulham were ten times the club we were, but now, genuinely we're away from the likes of Everton even and the mackems who have spent a lot more. We're 6th or 7th, and when you think Man City and Chelsea have been artificially developed and financed, I've always said 4th or 5th is about our level and I'm sure the yids would think the same about their club. We're getting there. Ashley wants to be seen as a success in all aspects of his life, and he knows what he has done has worked, he knows a little more on the field success will mean a lot more financial success of the business, which clearly is his big motivation in life. You can't have one without the other, and I won't be slagging them off unless they sell 3 or 4 of our bigger players without replacing them, but even Tiote's is hinting he'd like to say, they're not on fortunes and they're all HAPPY. In the past they were on FORTUNES and they were ARSEHOLES.
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As a bigger Ashley/Llambias hater than Leazes, with many reasoned points over the last 4 or 5 years, I can say for the reasons they pissed me off in the past I fucking hate them and I always will. I couldn't trust Llambias as far as I could fling him, "you don't know how nasty we can be", but had a good drunken chat about it all on Sunday after the match. The bottom line is, I'm proud of this team, no Newcastle team made me feel as good as I did on Sunday for at least 10 years, and as was pointed out apart from Krul all of this team was bought under Ashley. I can't stress enough the dislike I have for Mike Ashley and Llambias, but I've come to a point now. I've enjoyed our relative successes over the last few years, but even when we beat Sunderland it was "aye he's still a cunt and he'll sell Nolan, Barton etc... in the summer". I maintain that the way the club has been transformed for the better has been more by luck than judgement, appointing Graham Carr has been UNBELIEVABLE, even Pardew's appointment taken on face value has been completely inspired, and where do I get to the point where I just stop slagging the cunts off, and let them get on with it, and slag them when we're on the decline again? Well I reached that point on Sunday, it's alright slagging them for selling Tiote, but the purchases we've made in the last 15 months, people who if you're honest few of us knew much about, well they've been inspired. He's not going to spend vast amounts, and this system of buying cheaply is working. Pardew said when he got the job, in 3-5 years they want us to be in a position where, we can generate enough money to keep our best players, and grow as a club. That 3-5 year period could well have been achieved in just 18 months. European football gives us everything, status, stature, additional exposure domestically and more importantly internationally and of course financially Does it not feel better to be the club we are today, diligently spending the fans money (which we have invested not Ashley) LEVEL FUCKING POINTS WITH CHELSEA (?!) who have done £400m in 8 years. ELEVEN POINTS above Liverpool who have done £130m in, in 14 month?! Well I'm proud of the backroom staff, Carver, Stone, Pardew, and especially Graham Carr. It's working and there has to come a point where all of us, have to say, what are we fighting against here?? Unless we get a benefactor like the Arabs at City, or Abramovic, our status in this country will only ever be the level of Tottenham, and we're a lot closer to them than we were 2 years ago. The club are ran now like Valencia and Deportivo were ran in the last 90's early 00's, they won 4 titles between them in that time, and this country has no Real Madrid or Barcelona. The time to pipe down and say well done has come. I even looked at Ashley in the Milburn his big bright blue shirt, he looked over to the Leazes, the Leazes End, not LM and he could see us baiting the dippers just after the second goal, and I thought I bet that big fat cunt feels a massive amount of vindication here like. The time to pipe down and forget about the politics off the pitch has finally arrived, I really don't think they're stupid enough to build something that is almost so good then completely dismantle it and start again. In closing I hate them as people, but it's idiotic to go on saying how shit they are when EVERYTHING they have done in the last 18 months has worked.
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And the bald fella on the right....looks the part too him. Best tash I've ever seen on that steward on the left mind, it screams Bielefeld 1987 to me.
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http://galeria.lfc.pl/galleries/mecze_2011-12/2012_04_01_newcastle/24.jpg What's the divvy in the geps giving a nazi salute for?!?
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Correct, and when you have 360 degree vision at the match you could really see it many, many times when we were on the attack. We were rigid and disciplined. How people can question Pardew's tactical awareness beggars belief. We were saying yesterday, he's been good literally everywhere he's been apart from 4 shit months at West Ham, he really set the foundations at Reading for them to become a decent Premiership club in later years. i can't believe he hasn't won everyone over now - even those norweigen knob jockeys must recognise the job he's done. look at the league position and some of the victories - beating man u, liverpool, hammering the unwashed etc. i'll hold me hands up. i was gutted when hughton was sacked and fuming when pardew was appointed. but you have to give him massive credit for what he's done this season. defensively, we're as solid as i can remember us being. the positional awareness of players i'd previously written off has improved massively - that is down to coaching. and you can't dispute his man management - he's handled ben arfa perfectly and has kept the team spirit going in the camp. i thought that would go after hughton was sacked and when the senior pros were flogged in the sumemr but if anything it's improved. plus he seems to handle the media perfectly; he's got a bit of confidence - even arrogance - about him, which i like and he talks honestly and tells it how he sees it, instead of talking in cliches. plus he's done it all on a small budget by premiership standards. manager of the year tbh Aye, all of that's true, I still don't like him as a bloke, but he's got character without a doubt. On paper and recent footballing history i.e last 6th or 7 years, Tottenham are a bigger club than we are. We were for years they're having their moment now, but a return to London wouldn't be unattractive for him imo, hope we can fend them off when Redwank gets the England job.
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Correct, and when you have 360 degree vision at the match you could really see it many, many times when we were on the attack. We were rigid and disciplined. How people can question Pardew's tactical awareness beggars belief. We were saying yesterday, he's been good literally everywhere he's been apart from 4 shit months at West Ham, he really set the foundations at Reading for them to become a decent Premiership club in later years.
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Their best two players are in their 30s and past their best. All of the rest of the squad are mid table players. Downing fuck knows what's happened to him but he's nothing like how he was 3 years ago. Don't know if this has been posted but what a great picture
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When you look at their manager it's hardly a surprise. For months he has looked like a broken man, quietly mumbling incoherent answers to the questions asked, then storming off as soon as the interviewer suggests that his team isn't doing as well as they ought to. If he's the figure they're looking to for inspiration and a bit of blood and guts encouragement then it's no wonder why they didn't even turn up yesterday. Yep. Honestly this you know who they reminded me of, us in 2009 at Villa Park, they looked completely demotivated. The money their players earn they were a disgrace, dickheads like Redknapp saying they'll be above us next season, mebeez if they buy a whole new team aye.
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Feel like Spud when hes lying in the gutter "teww Mark tae...." but its all worth it, best day at SJP for years, beautifully capped off with Iggy Pop - Lust for Life walking out the ground, or did I imagine that? We were better than them all over the park, Gerrard was shit, looked at the twitter walking up to see the teams and we couldn't believe he started with two twenty year olds in midfield, I wouldn't care if they were good they're both shite. I couldn't believe how feeble they were at 2-0 down, old Liverpool would've been right in your face, they gave up, they just fuckin gave up, they didn't chase they thought fuck this, they're a broken depressed team. Carroll is a disgrace if he had've stood up he had an empty net, unless he was doing a Chopra (2009) only he will know. Brilliant day, strange I can't see pacinofan on the list at the bottom today. Funny that. Scousers were low profile all day, when I was walking up to me seat this kid, above us staring me out, he looked like Peter Beardsley in 1984 same haircut, but fatter, and I sang there's only two Peter Beardsleys to him, he came back with "geordie swaaat", but when we came back for the second he'd put his hood up. I feel proper guilty now, genuinely that I must've upset the poor cunt.
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Paddocklad, it's not my service based economy, I wasn't old enough in the 80's to understand her policies other than people moaning that coal and steel works closing. My point was they weren't sustainable, to which most have agreed, but my knowledge of politics and the economy 1979 to 1992 isn't great enough to understand if the speed of the destruction of those industries was too great for the North to cope with. What is not in doubt is there is a history of places like Liverpool, Sheffield, Newcastle, Sunderland, Derby etc... consistently suffering whenever the tories get in to power. I'm not saying London is buoyant it's not, but little things like lowering the tax rate for the rich, % wise there are far more rich people in the South of England, and why shouldn't the rich be taxed more? I don't want a communist state, but they're not even hiding what their policies are this time.
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Enrique is great, been a little bit off form of late, but overall a great buy, I hope he’s here for years to come. Carroll is a bit of an enigma, there are times when you can see the potential, and other times when he just looks like a lazy get trotting round, getting nowhere. For me, he doesn’t have a football brain and therefore finds it hard to anticipate other player’s moves or getting into good positions. I know we don’t play to his supposed strengths, but Dalglish won’t turn us into a long ball team just to suit Carroll, the player has to adapt to us. I think he was a mistake all round because he appears to take his career too casually, and if he carries on that way I can see him dropping down the leagues. I hope he proves me wrong. That there displays the failings of Dalglish for me. There's an almost arrogant attitude that the players of LFC should play football in a certain way and adapt their style accordingly and that there is no room for movement - the player has to adapt, not the club. You broke the British transfer record to sign him FFS, he's not just some two-bit squad player. If you didn't want to play to his strengths, why buy him in the first place? He's a haemorrhage on your finances but it's your club's fault, not Carroll's! What's even more laughable is you have the players with the ability to provide for him. Totally agree. The likes of Charlie Adam were unfathomable ridiculous buys, and you have Downing who's playing shit, but he cuts in too much, he's a winger ffs, play him like a winger and they need a right winger, or Gerrard out there all the time to provide for AC. They're a mess I think, we are much better balanced. I find it unlikely that any of our players would want to sign for Liverpool again particularly if we keep progressing. They most definitely aren't Manchester United or anything like it right now. It's not unrealistic that they might finish with 52 points which is total midtable fodder. In fact if we beat them on Saturday they'd need 3 wins from 7 to get there even. Back to front Reina possibly the most overrated keeper I've seen in 27 years of watching football, Agger is decent, Jose hasn't been near his level here, the rest are shite. Midfield they have Gerrard who is pure class, who else would you be desperate for us to have none of them? Suarez is a decent player but doesn't score enough, Bellamy is class but is no spring chicken, and you need to play a certain way to utilise Carroll. I'd say that's borderline disarray for the money they've spent to be honest. 99% of their fans would swap Ba, Benny, Tiote and Cabaye (£12.5m) for Carroll, Downing, Henderson and Adam (£84m) and if they don't they haven't got a clue about the game.
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I've said it before I'll say it again, the media coverage Liverpool receive is ridiculous for the stature of their club, and it's disproportionate representation in the media is pathetic, it's the same thing for Tottenham. Even when Tottenham were getting 25000 less than a decade ago, coming 15th every year, their media representation was disproportionate. The difference between us and them is we were better supported and had very similar trophy haul up to the early 70's but in that decade and the 80's they really became the number one club in England while we stood still. We probably have a similar hardcore fanbase, in fact ours is probably greater, but they have a media driven gloryhunting fan base from all over, and these are the ones that the media are interested in. They bore me, I hate reading about them, there are far more interesting clubs than them who never win fuck all, sick of reading about them, and Lawrenson's piece sums it all up. Anyway due to our shit defence on Sunday I only think we'll win 3-2, I thought 2-2 but they're hopeless at the back too.
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:lol:
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You've written on the RAWK site, you got a very hostile reception on here. The only person you had any crossed words with was Danny B who's a Tottenham fan. So what specifically did you mean by that?
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On the cover of The Mag one day I saw that big doilum smiling Not good enough for Preston and not good enough for Leeds He couldn't trap a medicine ball He wasn't what we wanted All he could do is head the cunt But you need more than that up front Cos Jesus he's pony And he knows am right Even Kuyt is better And he's fuuuuuckin shite Oh yes's pony and he knows I'm right And King Kennys telling all everythings gonna be alright
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Support AZ.
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not as good as yours but.... It was the kind of move you dreamed of Dreamed of comin top four Better forget it You'll never get it They think you're shit and hate you Want to sell and fuckin loan you Better forget it Oh you'll regret it No you'll never change them so leave it, so leave it Get out quick before Boro come calling It's the only way You've only scored fooooooour Cos he's a fuckin doilum 35 million they're seething King Kenny's fucked up And before you know it you'll be on your knees More Phil Collins....keep them coming
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Thatcher cost many people their jobs, and she was no fan of football but..... I'm not trying to be antagonistic in any, can someone tell me if coal mining, steel works, and other related industries were going to be sustainable long term, or was the only option a service based economy? What would YOU have done differently to THATCHER?
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Empty your PMs man Done was only winding you up. Ant its ridiculous how little space we have in our inbox's. Happens often this.
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We've got a poor record against Liverpool at home, in the Premiership I can only think of Man Utd who we've done worse against. Our record here since 93 against them W7 D4 L6 - not good enough imo, and I'm worried badly about Coloccini now. Supposing Simpson or say even the shit Williamson gets injured seriously WHAT do we do then? Anyway I have so little faith in them I'd try Tiote at centre half. 2-2 draw I think sadly.