Hadrian

its nuts selling any of our better players in this window , shay included . im suprised at shay , yeah he has been a great servant to the club , and maybe its not the best club to be at right now , but these players should be thinking of the fans rather than jumping ship while they have a chance . anyway , roll on the summer(thats if we are not relegated) and hopefully a buyout as there is no chance in hell that mike will ever match our ambition , thats doesnt mean 20 mill pound singings either mike , your stars to blood are great , as long as you bring in the likes of nolan on the cheap at the same time ,which we havent bee doing .

gutted even before we have kicked off , infact im fucking gutted ive got to support this shower of shit through the rest of the season , what a bunch of wankers we have running the show these days

better ways of getting it than selling your best players .

would have held out for johnson , cash and that young defenders name i can never remember or pronounce . infact i wouldnt have sold at all, i would of just bought those lads i mentioned from city , but that obv not gonna ever happen under this cuntish owner .

it was in the journal (maybe one other rag) a few days ago in an article half the way down the page , just a couple of lines explaining it's in the contract that a payment of 2.7 mill is tobe made after 10 appearances , there was alot of stuff going on at the time , guess that kind of got looked over . happyface , you watched the lad at u-21 lvl or in la liga ? as he's always made a great account of himself when ive watched him play before he arrived here, you dont get regarded as your countrys next great striker for nothing ,

that was mikes statement , the deloitee report and also other statements conradict most of what he says in that. like the debt , it was 66 million secured against the season tickets with a 7% interest rate , which turned into 100m according to mike . roman abramovich paid 110m for chelski , spent about 500+ mill and just knocked back an offer of 750 mill . which would have repaid his investment and make him over 100m . proper investment = equity .

there is a huge amount to this argument/situ ranging from sale price of club , what he bought (land ,what he intends todo with it(jiminezect) and what he did with debt and other 'investment . aswell as players wages brought in under his tenure , im sure we(deloitte) were reporting a drop in wages outgoings after the purchase of duke geremi ect ,

prob all bull, but , has been connected with us in past . does admire KK and was rumors when all this kicked off he was gonna step in and buy us and reappoint keegan agree with some keegan points raised, but with proper backing , id have him back instanly , for the very reasons he came back with ashley , and more of a score to settle and point to prove. media circus yes, but we all know keegan could have got the players he wanted to this club just by chatting to them , its not a hughsy type situ at city (lets not forget what they owe to keegan for all that aswell) city have been nowhere and done fuck all for years , we have almost done it for 15+years , the city guys wanted us first remember also . if he was offered the job and said no.. god knows what i think of the bloke , but i dont think he would with this backer

But they're not mutually exclusive. If Ashley wanted to put more money in the club then he would have done. Let's say there was no change of control clause- Ashley would simply have put in £60m less. I don't think he'd have funded transfers with it. Anyway, raising new finance would have been very difficult. This is not a good business. To revisit the 'debt free' thing- we're free of long-term debt outside the company structure and Ashley. As he owns 100% of the club as long as he is owner (and guaranteeing loans to himself) then we are, in effect, free of long-term debt. There will be shorter-term debts occuring just as in the running of any business. If someone came in and bought the club, paying back SJHL £100m would be part of the deal. Edit: Just thinking about it, had Ashley not provided a personal guarantee in July with his sizeable wealth and decided to just let it drop, EY wouldn't have signed off the accounts, the banks will have withdrawn their facilities and we'd have faced administration in double quick time. by that you mean the 67m pound loan secured on future ticket sales ?

there is another thread like this on the chron forum with some interesting facts and lots of arguments , but its worth a read if anyone cbh . dont buy into this BS, we would be in admin without ashley , .

but theres more to this ... the land we own , ashleys ties to property developers(jiminez) and casino owners ( lambsarse) , saint james' is hosting olympic events and hopefully world cup games if we win the bid . when ive fed the kids and sorted the house ill do my best to go through it better , im a math person , so my english is shiite (dont mind admiting that) , but ill try and put it in words as best as possible , the link i left(when i was off to bed ) was just to show how we went from what the deloitte report said last year to these figures being thrown about now , which i think is bullshit , i realise we have to take payoff fee's into account ect , but theres loads more to this situation that what was typed in the lad from N-O's post .

the original article is full of shit . late cbh gettin into it . one link for now http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-ne...61634-20989122/

deloitte(sp?) report had us at 6m+ profit last season , one of 6 clubs to make a profit in prem

agree, but their ambition hasnt been .

cant compete with city and there insane transfer dealings , but the likes of spurs ect we should be cant think of one team thats invested less than us since ashley arrived , anyone name one ?

How many times have you seen him play? genuine question or dig ? ive explained ive watched all our kids play on a regular basis , krull did well when he got his chance in the first team , and ive watched his spells in scotland and cardiff . look lads ill admit , my mates had my season ticket since we sacked bobby(long story, loved bobby and was family friend) and he even says he doesnt want it next season , but i love our club and city like the lot of you , so followed our kids and been to their home games more than the first team (still watched every first team match on net/sky tho, and bought the kits for myself and the kids and decked the bairns room out in club merchandise )

if, buts and maybes ? and if harper stays till end of season (he's not signing new contract and have been told he wont) , there has been interest in him aswell this summer , ( one deal didnt come off , but others interested ) knowing our lot we will take cash now rather than lose him on a free in summer . I know its if buts and maybes... why not even try and get Schmeichel Jr?? just trying to think of posotives nah your right mate, ive rated johnson and onouha for years myself , krulls a better prospect for schmical jr aswell tbh . its just this current regime , they havent got a fucking clue what there doing . buying youth is fantastic ( but for what motives ) just not when your first teams wank .

if, buts and maybes ? and if harper stays till end of season (he's not signing new contract and have been told he wont) , there has been interest in him aswell this summer , ( one deal didnt come off , but others interested ) knowing our lot we will take cash now rather than lose him on a free in summer . EDIT : im not one of those itk people , but used to play for the academy (with strolla of all people , and he was fast then ) so i hear little bits now and again , and people inside saint james' (toon fans themselves) are gettin so pissed off that there opeining their mouths abit more when they shouldnt be , but there fans just like us and just as pissed off

I think krul should of had more chance in the first team ( ie cup games etc ) after the performance he gave against Palermo he's not the only one , donninger and goodsmark , ranger ect ect all showing our first team up , and deserved alot more playing time , hull put their reserves out against us and knocked us outa FA cup , we shoulda played the kids and would have had more chance of winning watching our first teams perfomance that day . Totally agree with you. We have some cracking youth talent. Wouldn't mind seeing Tozer and Kadar Genuine quesion as I keep hearing this - have you ever seen any of them play? yup , followed donniger and goodsmark for years , watched ranger kadar and tozer alot lately , each player mentioned would show half our first team up . they deserved time in the first team ages ago . Fair enough. I meant the Cornish Pastie like doh

I think krul should of had more chance in the first team ( ie cup games etc ) after the performance he gave against Palermo he's not the only one , donninger and goodsmark , ranger ect ect all showing our first team up , and deserved alot more playing time , hull put their reserves out against us and knocked us outa FA cup , we shoulda played the kids and would have had more chance of winning watching our first teams perfomance that day . Totally agree with you. We have some cracking youth talent. Wouldn't mind seeing Tozer and Kadar Genuine quesion as I keep hearing this - have you ever seen any of them play? yup , followed donniger and goodsmark for years , watched ranger kadar and tozer alot lately , each player mentioned would show half our first team up . they deserved time in the first team ages ago .

I think krul should of had more chance in the first team ( ie cup games etc ) after the performance he gave against Palermo he's not the only one , donninger and goodsmark , ranger ect ect all showing our first team up , and deserved alot more playing time , hull put their reserves out against us and knocked us outa FA cup , we shoulda played the kids and would have had more chance of winning watching our first teams perfomance that day .

guys remember , harper is away also in the summer , he's not going to sign new contract . Krull is an amazing talent , but he needed loaned out more for the experience .

Wasn't his loan deal set to come to an end now anyway? yes, but they wanted him back till season end , and he wanted to go .

johnson and cash

Krull was recalled, shays off to city , mike ashleys a cunt