Hadrian

cant see any points in the next few games , like other have said were gonna end up in the bottom three putting more pressure on those must win games ... which we never win anyway . i only hope that we end up taking points of some of the teams you wouldnt expect us to , which is what normally happens ... then we lose the easy games .. if we dont have a manager in place soon i can see us going into freefall from the shock of falling into the bottom three so close to the end of the season .

he's always said he had future investment lined up , and i dont think he was reaching the end of our credit card limit for a club this size , god knows how he was juggling some finances around and what he had planned , but he's always maintained there was gonna be money there for sam . for all we know he could have been planning on building flats on the land we own and flogging them off , or any other number of ways to bring cash into the club . did sam bring in the crazy earners before or after freddy left aswell , i know barton was before ? but the weekly wages of the likes of geremi cacapa and viduka is money pissed up the wall .

love the fact we now owe ashley 250million , yay debt free !!! .......... been waiting on freddy fighting back , as the PR and figures thats came outa sjp lately just hasnt added up for me . some great points raised , not impressed with ashley not coughing up for sports direct advertising .

I've said this before but the fans will ultimately buy the club for Ashley in much the same way the Glazers bought Man and then put the debt on the club to repay. Ashley bought the club for around £130m by setting up a holding company St James Holdings and lending the money to St James Holdings. The debt was then discovered and he loaned St James Holdings a further £100m. Any other funding such as the occassional input of £10m here and £10m there is simply a further loan to St james Holdings. St James Holdings are required to repay the loans to Ashley so that eventually the entire loan of around £250m will be repaid. That is why he wants the club to pay up front for players, so there is no debt and any income generated by the club in retail sales sponsorship etc can be used to pay him back sooner rather than later. Eventually Ashley will own the club lock stock and barrel, i.e. his loans will have been repaid out of the fans money and when or if he does sell for around £250m or more, depending on the economic state of the markets, that will be clear profit for him. Not bad eh? £250m clear profit, and all that for simply providing an interest free loan of £250m. any way of finding out if St james holdings own the land ashley bought with the club ? little birdie told me ashley has moved the land to a different company he owns , so he will still own it even if he sells the club /St james holdings

id rather break lambsarses specks , none of this in the gut malarky , nice right hook straight in the goggles tbh

so this 66 million pound bank loan we owed , that was secured against future season ticket sales , has turned into 120million pound we now owe mike ashley ... is this all really necessary ? as george caulkin puts it ..

he's came outa nowhere and turned alot of peoples (and i imagine clubs) heads . never seen a youngster walk into a defensive position and perform so well , you would think he was our 10mill pound defender .

id always hoped bobby would lean on jose heavily to manage the toon , but atm i cant see anybody wanting to manage us , or anyone like bobby asking his mates to take over this mess . crazy were one of the richest teams in the league , with one of the most wealthy owners in the prem , yet we all chuckle when we are linked to star players and managers ........ its not bloody right , why'd it have to happen to us .

The truth? to have all fans treat as actual paying customers with an opinion and not some piece of shit that they can give any old bollocks to? Fair enough PP, a good starting point.....I've got a couple of questions too....Why did you folks not feel like banding together in protest when Shepherd was spending his way to the Nou Camp and the San Siro, because as far as I can see Ashley's biggest problem is having to write the cheque for Sheps ten years in the hotseat while the man himself is sat in Mallorca 30 million or so richer due to Ashley's rashness.......which also, it could be argued, has actually also saved the club from a twelve point deduction due to the strong possibilty of us being in receivership in February 2009 due to the debts of the Shepherd era.Another buyer couldve been attracted, but one or two did do due dilligence and they passed on the opputunity....surely not a good sign? For the record, I'm actaually vaguely in favour of of NUSC's aims and wishes, I too think fans have strong representation at the club, but there is also two sides to everything and for me it has to be said that you guys may be either shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted or picking on completely the wrong target? placing the blame all on freddys shoulders is buying into lambsarse's bullshit , been many a smarter person that you went over those figures and pointed out the bullshit , and freddy knew what he was doing , debt or not , he said himself he had that sorted with loan secured on future ticket sales , and also he had investment lined up for sam (sam has backed this up aswell)

Still reckon you're a SMB like. mikes 5 year plan is two year in , defo a SMB

Seems to me they've asked the sort of (sensible) questions they'd have been sent. What would you have asked? Dissappointed they didn't counter any of the responses to dig deeper than the one line answers or question dodging like. I suppose that was a pre-condition though, full disclosure of exactly what would be asked beforehand. well there is more to come in the journal tommorow , so ill say more then about questions asked . bold bit , you will ask and print what the board wants you to . thats why id piss on the chron for agreeing to such bollocks after all thats went on

im insulted by the bullshit lambsarse has came out with , and the disrespect towards fans org.s in th article . and would like to piss on the chron and journal for being pathetic , asking stupid fucking questions , and dressing their bullshit up with pr spin .

id always thought that was ashleys intention anyway , his brands making the kit, sponsoring the club and future players , launching his brands and business's on a global level , i was all for that ,fair play to the bloke... as long as he invested in the squad , which the fat cunt hasnt .

one of the shittest days in the past few shit as fuck years . money is going where again ?

he's got talent tho, and our coaching staffs wank. he's whined for a while now , but since his new agent has came on the scene its been more insulting more than whining . id have liked to keep the lad and got some decent coaches in (none of our kids have progressed....... ) but , after all the villa and arsenal want me crap , aswell as his shit in the papers week on week . have fun at wigan you stupid cunt ! maybe we are competing with wigans and boltons atm, but there not in the same class as the toon potential wise , all we need is a decent fucking owner and we will take off , bolton and wigan are fucked and need stadiums to a decent fucking history and support base . when we get ashley out , we will send the proverbial middle fingers down the league to you zoggy defended him loads, think he has bags of talent , but im sick and tired of the little cunt having pops at the toon , aye bad times here atm , but were fucking newcastle you dumb shit , we are unique , and with a proper manager we take fucking off ! and will be in the top 6 within the next 5 year again (when fat cunt cashleys gone only tho )

charlie i always expected this , maybe if we were dsoing a bit better then he'd want to stay , but i dont want players like that who only wanna stick around when were doing well . shay , has went so down fucking hill in my estimations of the bloke . no fucking reason wahtsoever to jump ship this window , he's being a cunt . shay has ambition ... not as much as us fans . its pretty bloody obvious , come summer due to no season tickets sold and hatred against ashley he will sell on , and there will be more buyers about then for us . if shay would only hang around till summer to see what happens .... handing in a transfer request ...... cant get over it tbh

during the match the team will get what they always do , geordies full support , if we get beat ... mondays back pages here we come .

Up the prozac sweetheart. the doc understood my situation as a toon fan and gave me the highest possible dosage per day im affriad mate . liked the little witty dig , but maybe a few comments about my points woulda went down abit better . i was till half pissed and we all need a rant about our beloved club dont we ....

why THIS window tho and not summer , never mind himself the blokes sitting behind him in those seats for the past 10 year thought he was one of us , same blokes and you and me have ambition also . and for that reason we will rid the club of ashley , wait till next window shay man , im happy with 10mill bargain hunting and zoggy fee put into players if we pick up likes of nolan and taylor now for cheap . summer , ashley will be gone , we will make the fucker this time if he dont back up his bullshit with actions

he had slept in for team bonding session , insomnia is either his nickname around the staff and it slipped out in the interview , or jfk knew he was gonna say it (i think this ) judging by little grin when he corrected himself . ( and fair play to jfk , id be sick of the little french cunt aswell .

i rate zoggy , but after all the fucking whining , and the worse stuff since his new agent arrived on the scene . have fun at wigan you french cunt(nowt againt the french , just cunts) , what happened to villa and arsenal zoggy ? interested my arse, who the fuck in the top half of lge want a whining cunt like you

id have no problem with the shay situ , just not in this window , i think its harsh of him todo this to us now . he should know better than anybody we as much as him deserve a bit of a break, if he feels in the summer that neither one of us is going to get it , then move on shay . but your fans who have backed you for years , who istill belive you care for , will not let this go on another year , and you know it shay . help thru relegation battle , and in summer we will get fat ash out im sure of it , then if not , move shay , just not fucking now and if you really wont have mind changed , let us hold out for a better deal for you , that you know we and you deserve

fuckin ashley proganda and jfk quotes mike pays wage bill ? what the **** do we do then ? and sponsors ? and the tv money we get , all it ever took mike was 50mill , you have lost that gambling on shares and roulette(probably) . and lost 2 billion (bullshit) we had stadum , half decent squad and all it took was smart investment into equity , altho , a few digs at ashley and support from toon army in that article .. ish

bolton bid upped it to 14mill since they got nolan cash . if it turns out we wont match there bid , ill not be told that the nolan deal didnt involve us leaving veloso alone . tin foil hat time for hadrian ?, no bloody way under this regimes previous exploits and lies . fucking competing with wigan's and boltons of the world .. never mind mike ashleys accounts published , the recent debt thread , the whole situ is a fucking shambles, ps. hope i eat my world (and i will) and we sign veloso and ashley turns out alright . but i left this board ages ago after bitching about ashley last year , and tobe fair to my downputters i had thought shit would be fine myself , but were getting fucked ,and his lifelong business models should show us all what his plans are for this fucking club , dont get me wrong , i like the nolan signgng and maybe taylor , but we should have been picking these players up all along since the start , aswell as mikes suposed 5 year plan of youngsters , but then again , look at the fucking coaching staff and youth setup , it bollocks and never produces anyway . and we get to talk to them after window shuts again , every fucking window is like groundhog day fro the bullshit fed by the club to what actually happens in the window . what the fuck did we do to deserve this ? apart from back our club , maybe fan pressure ? , who can blame us after the way we have been treated from boardroom all the way down to players on the pitch . rant over , hope derby match turns out ok , but even tho i dont rate joe, not one singles fucking manager has had support from ashley .

no, there isnt enough fields for the kids to play out on these days supposedly , and thats why the field next to the training ground has horses in since the toon bought darnsley , a field that had 2/3* 11 a side amateur games going all thru the summer , when we were kicked off what the toon now call there training ground that is . grass roots footie and coaching in the region is piss poor , we are outclassed by smogland for gods sake !!