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Its pointless me and you arguing over this because you are even more blinkered than me. Its no good complaining about what a party in opposition says as they basically just oppose stuff, as Labour are doing now. The bottom line is that it was Labour who encouraged the debt and housing bubble, Labour who over spent, Labour who started to privatise the NHS and Labour who introduced tuition fees. Its no wonder you dont want to talk about the past. With regard to the economy I dont think there are many people who were not / are not expecting a bumpy ride for a few years as we dig ourselves out of this mess. You forget that the booming economy of this century wasnt built on manufacturing or scientific industries, it was built on a debt bubble, pure and simple. Labour had no idea how to manage the economy so allowed and encouraged debt to spiral so that everything that was keeping the economy going was on debt. That bubble has well and truly burst and it is the Tories who are trying to build an economy that is on solid foundations, based on proper modern industries. With regard to the NHS Im sure it is difficult trying to reform such a beast, but that doesnt mean it shouldnt be done. It is simply not an option to continually throw money at it and hope it somehow works. It wont. An your remarks regarding privatisation are breath taking. It was Labour what done it! The introduced privatised competition two years ago. But again, at least Cameron is trying to drag this country back into some form of fitness. Whether it be the economy, the welfare system or healthcare, it is the Tories that have the will and vigour to find alternatives to borrow and spend.

I think I said back in September that Barton would win player of the season hands down. There is no doubting the difference in our performances when he plays, however I must say that whilst he is still my favourite player (Your time will come Shane), there are others that are running him close as we come into the last seven games. My short list Barton --- Has kept getting better and better this season and is superb out on the right. Great skills, great vision and a desire to win which seems to lift all around him. A proper football brain to match his skill which allows him to pull off the cross field long range passes just as well as the neat one-two's. Nolan --- As ASM mentioned earlier this year, Nolan somehow doesnt seem to get the credit he deserves. Runs himself ragged for the club as he did again on Saturday even though he was clearly unwell. His goals have been a god send and his genuine influence in the dressing room really seems real. And lets not forget the chicken dance. Tiote --- Stevie or LM will have to say when a player last arrived and made such an impact in his first year. Still with a bit to learn but what a player. Colochini should get a mention for a solid season as should Danny Simpson for the way he has improved this term. But it will be one from the above three for me and so far in the order listed.

Battle Los Angeles 4/10 Absolute Pants.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...er-2264160.html Remember not to quote this op

Aha, refused a visa due to his criminal record http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Newca...icle720320.html Apparently it seems unlikely they will let him in. Nice to see him being given the captaincy mind.

The truth is that after Labour last fucked the country up good and proper, it was the Tories who came in and restored the nations finances and health. Although unpopular at first and whilst making mistakes like the poll tax, the good old british public new the score and kept them in power for 18 years. They left Labour an amazingly strong economy which they screwed up very quickly. The only way Labour could keep the tory good times going was to do everything in their power to encourage debt. People were encouraged to remortgage their houses to buy cars and holidays with the promise of ever increasing house prices. It will go down as a shameful period in british politics and YES THANK GOD THE TORIES ARE BACK.

Nice one Trophyshy. Its also worth all the mums and dads (and anyone else for that matter) having a look at this. The biggest killer in infants is choking and the actions to try and save a choking child are worth knowing.

Constantly spending money on new business ideas that I know can work, while deep down knowing that I haven't really got that entrepreneurial x factor to see them through.

Going to be tough on JB (assuming he's still here) to have to train with Gateshead or someone while the rest of the teams in America on pre season. Cant see them letting him in and think this either points to the fact they are going to sell, or more likely that whoever arranged this has dropped an almighty bollock.

Wasnt it Gordon Browns decision not to go into the euro though?...not that the tories would have, but they can't claim credit for it Labour had plans for the debt,and did indeed in a lot of ways royally fuck things up, but the British electorate are into punishing politiicans at the behest of certain sections of the media, whether its a good idea to get rid of the incumbent or not, as Dave and Gideon will find out when theyve cut everything to fuckin ribbons and people turn against them too.....mind, Ed Milliband=Ian Duncan Smith so that might save them The thank fuck remark was more in relation to the fact that the Tories have come in and are taking the hard decisions to mend Britain. Even worse comes the news that Alistair Darling, AFTER Labour lost the election, signed an agreement comitting Britain to a £50 billion euro bail out scheme. (Even though we are not in the Euro). This means that in the next few days we will have to start looking down the back of the sofa to bail Portugal out.

An excellent post BB however I fear your words of wisdom will fall on deaf ears. In fairness it is unfair to compare the two. Its a bit like comparing George Osbornes time as Chancellor to that of Gordon Brown. GB like Shepherd, ruled during a massive boom time and was able to do all sorts of things that Osborne cant even begin to contemplate until the crap he inherited has been sorted out. Sure it hasnt been a smooth ride for Ashley and indeed he has also made it harder than it should have been, but at least the finances of the club are being addressed. I am firmly in the camp that we would have been fucked had Shepherd remained.

News Headlines..... "Portugal applies for EU bail out"..........and........."Zsa Zsa Gabor Hospitalized, Reportedly Spitting Up Blood". Looking Good I thought you had gone...... I did and spent several days lurking in the wilderness mending my ways

Greece, Ireland and tonight Portugal goes tits up. Thank fuck the Tories got in.

News Headlines..... "Portugal applies for EU bail out"..........and........."Zsa Zsa Gabor Hospitalized, Reportedly Spitting Up Blood". Looking Good

I would suggest killing off everything in the you tube and funny picture threads over 6 months old. If we want to see these again we can locate them just as easily on you tube and google and I would have thought both of these threads use a lot of space.

He could be a decent bloke for a few month, then say things that make you think he's a cunt for a bit, something he said to Craig yesterday was a complete disgrace on any level, I won't go in to it though. Saw that and thought it was totally unecessary and crossed a line. Still flouncing but saw this and have to say you are both right. Craig I sincerely apologise. Like a scouse dwarf, it wasnt big and it wasnt clever. It was uncalled for and when the internets letting you get that rattled, its time for a break.

Aye took a nasty old turn this place of late. Snides and back stabbers all over the place. Toonraider summed it up well this afternoon when she said she couldnt imagine her husband or son getting dragged into this sort of thing. Shes right and to be honest its not for me either. A bit of banter over the toon or politics is fine, but all this secret forums where a clique can slag off other members without them knowing, really oversteps the line for me and drags this place into the gutter. While I always find a good old flounce amusing, I think I find myself having to follow the recent trend and returning to being an occasional lurker for the time being. And with that, he saddled up and rode gracefully into the sunset.

You keep re-writing history how you see fit, but the bottom line is you tried to lie your way into a job and ended up looking a proper tit.

My guess is that you were kicked off there because you're a shit-stirring bell end. Also, for you (of all people) to have a go about "class" is an offence. Grassing isn't classy, special brew isn't classy, being a taxi driver isn't classy, being contrary isn't classy... Glass houses, numbnuts... glass houses. Listen Kojak, lying on your CV that your a mod when your not, isnt classy but hey ho. I didn't lie though did I, you mong. Fuck me you're dense. You did though you tried to get the mods to say you were one and got fucked over

My guess is that you were kicked off there because you're a shit-stirring bell end. Also, for you (of all people) to have a go about "class" is an offence. Grassing isn't classy, special brew isn't classy, being a taxi driver isn't classy, being contrary isn't classy... Glass houses, numbnuts... glass houses. Listen Kojak, lying on your CV that your a mod when your not, isnt classy but hey ho.

So now I get kicked out of the piss up thread while Ant keeps plugging away..... Classy Mods, classy

Rendition 9/10 Excellent tale about bad people behind closed doors making life difficult for an innocent and the hero of the hour who takes on the establishment, sheds light on the mistreatment, thus foiling the baddies evil plans. Some wont like it.

Yeah! YEAHHHHHHHH! I think it may be time for me to give this forum a little rest don't ya know?! I have enough stress in my real life without coming on here and getting wound up half way through each thread. Consider it stopped on my part.

Ant is just a snidy little back stabber and my own advice would be to leave well alone. He doesn't really contribute much anyway so it's not as though you are going to miss much. He belittles wherever he can, constantly shouts about having people on ignore and then keeps taking them off ignore. Coward indeed.