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Yes because if you didn't notice last year we weren't in the top flight - a premier league proven/international Carroll is different to a championship player. Speaking of the summer, I'll also be astonished if Tiote is still here next August. Fuck me your even grumbling about next summers window. Get a bit of optimism lad.

Say nee more imo. Sad sad boy

I think your optimistic view at the moment is welcome from a balancing pov even if I don't agree with it but trusting Ashley after all that's gone on isn't optimism - it's stupidity. Its based on the fact he hasnt sold anyone who didnt want to be away. He didnt cash in on Enrique, Jonas etc etc as most predicted when we were relegated. Wanting to balance the books before all else , yes.... a history of getting rid of our best players, no. Quite the opposite in fact over the last 18 months. Currently securing good talent on long term deals, signing Tiote, Ben Arfa and whatever comes in January. When we actually sell players that dont want to go I'll buy into your Ashley theory. I find your pro Ashley stance tiresome, honestly you're getting right on my tits. I read your threads and think this cunt is on the wind up, and fine if you are but you're a mug. Signing Tiote what £3m? Not sellin Enrique, pah that was good of him, and who's to say any offers were on the table. The fact is another relegation will cost TTFCMA more than 8 or 9m he'd get in from selling Enrique, he realises this. We won't be selling Carroll though. You big fucking Jesse. If you cant hack differing opinions on football I suggest you nip along to the newsagents and buy a copy of Shoot or play on your PS3 instead. As long as people keep blabbering on about where going to sell ths one or that one and we dont, I'll keep putting the true facts across. So far I think im right on the last 3 or 4 windows. There are one or two clubs that can afford to splash the cash. We are getting the finances under control, giving decent players long contracts and finding good young players and bringing good young players through. Honestly, a big fucking jesse. People can have differing opinions, and you can have yours, but when their stance is as pathetic as yours, I'm allowed to shake my head, particularly when you're so blinkered to the situation Ashley has created, you either have no clue about the game or are deliberately being offensive. Your immediate support of him and his decision to replace Hughton with Pardew sums you up tbh. He could sell Carroll for £1m and you'd find the positive, it's tiresome pal. And your and others blindness to what has actually gone on over the past 18 months with regard to players coming in and going out is pathetic in my eyes. How many players have been sold against their will? I don't think it comes down to that. It comes down to the fact that we, as a group of supporters, shouldn't trust anything that Ashley does with our club - this isn't out of spite, it's born through all the other errors he's made since buying the club. If you for one second believe he wouldn't sell a player who wanted to stay if the money was right you're living in cookoo land, mate. You're right that you should re-evaluate your opinions on things constantly but I don't think he's made one decision since 2008 which has made him trustworthy in any way, shape or form. Aye? First point. All players have a price at all clubs whether its Teves, Ronaldo or whoever. Since 2008.... He didnt sell of our good players in a fire sale when relegated as widely touted on here (appreciate you wernt here then). He appointed Hughton He backed Hughton in the January window He brought us Tiote and Ben Arfa He has helped develop a policy for having / aquiring good youngsters He has signed up Carrol on a long deal Ditto for Taylor He ia resisting the sale of Carrol He has taken a bold decision to replace Hughton We are fast becoming one of the most financially astute clubs in the league. So in a nutshell I do think he is dragging us screaming and kicking into a viable club that can progress in this league. This ofcourse will never please the likes of leazes who cant see the period of the entertainers for what it was. A marvellous ride when everything fell into place be that personell, tv money , sponsorship etc. A perfect storm that I was thrilled to live through but know I wont be revisiting. A bit like the eighties.

It's easy to say that when the situation hasn't arisen. I'll bet since the batch of "deserters" left the summer before last that no decent bids for any players have been made. The change now is that people will have noticed how good Enrique and Carroll are. So they hadnt been noticed by the January 2009 window or the summer 2010 window.... What will you be saying come 1st Feb? He's waiting til the summer! The good thing is though if that you and others like you say it enough at every window then Im sure at one of them you will be right. Enrique leaves aged 30 I can just imagine the response....."See, i fucking told yas"

I think your optimistic view at the moment is welcome from a balancing pov even if I don't agree with it but trusting Ashley after all that's gone on isn't optimism - it's stupidity. Its based on the fact he hasnt sold anyone who didnt want to be away. He didnt cash in on Enrique, Jonas etc etc as most predicted when we were relegated. Wanting to balance the books before all else , yes.... a history of getting rid of our best players, no. Quite the opposite in fact over the last 18 months. Currently securing good talent on long term deals, signing Tiote, Ben Arfa and whatever comes in January. When we actually sell players that dont want to go I'll buy into your Ashley theory. I find your pro Ashley stance tiresome, honestly you're getting right on my tits. I read your threads and think this cunt is on the wind up, and fine if you are but you're a mug. Signing Tiote what £3m? Not sellin Enrique, pah that was good of him, and who's to say any offers were on the table. The fact is another relegation will cost TTFCMA more than 8 or 9m he'd get in from selling Enrique, he realises this. We won't be selling Carroll though. You big fucking Jesse. If you cant hack differing opinions on football I suggest you nip along to the newsagents and buy a copy of Shoot or play on your PS3 instead. As long as people keep blabbering on about where going to sell ths one or that one and we dont, I'll keep putting the true facts across. So far I think im right on the last 3 or 4 windows. There are one or two clubs that can afford to splash the cash. We are getting the finances under control, giving decent players long contracts and finding good young players and bringing good young players through. Honestly, a big fucking jesse. People can have differing opinions, and you can have yours, but when their stance is as pathetic as yours, I'm allowed to shake my head, particularly when you're so blinkered to the situation Ashley has created, you either have no clue about the game or are deliberately being offensive. Your immediate support of him and his decision to replace Hughton with Pardew sums you up tbh. He could sell Carroll for £1m and you'd find the positive, it's tiresome pal. And your and others blindness to what has actually gone on over the past 18 months with regard to players coming in and going out is pathetic in my eyes. How many players have been sold against their will? That makes everything else alright. You ignore the fact when we went down we got rid of almost everyone we could at a decent price. If we had got rid of anyone else in that summer of 2009, we'd have had a smaller squad than we have now. The answer your mumbling about for is no one

Didn't he once say he earned £40-60k a year or something doing taxiing? Aye and he lives in Boldon, so his mortgage can't be worth more than 100k. I appreciate he's got a big family, but surely he can afford £400 for a season ticket, or £30 a fortneet to watch the lads. Or maybe he just tells porkies. Occasionally an interesting post wouldnt go amiss.

Do you ever pay attention. I've discussed many times on here how I gave up my season ticket when KK left. Unlike the likes of Alex who had paid in full, I was on installments and able to get out. I now go when it's affordable / suits me My last game was boxing day v man city. What about you? Why did you pack in when KK left then? Either your pro or anti Ashley. I don't see how anyone could sit on the fence when it comes to him. In this thread your pro Ashley but obviously packed in 'cos of Ashleys handling of the club, no? Like what happens to many a fan, you grow up, have kids and suddenly work commitments or bills mean the season ticket has to go. Like many on here, when KK came back it was a call to arms that I couldnt resist and the monthly payments made it easier. Like many on here his leaving broke my heart at the time and I wanted nothing else to do with the place. Luckily I could get out where the boys who had paid upfront couldnt. Like any rash decisions or opinions you can then look at the cold light of day and see things wernt arnt quite as black or white as they first appeared. Just like you can have a blazing row with someone and then a few hours later cant really recall what kicked it all off. In the cold light of day I can see that Ashley initially with Mort, tried to put a proper system in place. It didnt work and went tits up and we have slowly been recovering ever since. The thing is we are recovering. Like it or loathe it his plan is to balance the books and find or develop young talent. Those who think we can return to the once in a lifetime days of Keegan and the original entertainers are deluded. Those days of big spending are gone unless you have an arab. There are a lot worse scenarios waiting out there for Newcastle than Ashley. Do we want yanks riddling the club with debt so they can make a fast buck and then leaves us in the shit. How are Liverpool doing? What about Villa with Mr Learner? The only realistic way forward in this league is the Ashley way. If anyone has any other great scenarios then feel free to sell them on here. Slow and steady will win the day.

Glory hunter then. Lots of oot fans who do the long distance to get to games home and away. Unless ofcourse your in Oz or somewhere.

I think your optimistic view at the moment is welcome from a balancing pov even if I don't agree with it but trusting Ashley after all that's gone on isn't optimism - it's stupidity. Its based on the fact he hasnt sold anyone who didnt want to be away. He didnt cash in on Enrique, Jonas etc etc as most predicted when we were relegated. Wanting to balance the books before all else , yes.... a history of getting rid of our best players, no. Quite the opposite in fact over the last 18 months. Currently securing good talent on long term deals, signing Tiote, Ben Arfa and whatever comes in January. When we actually sell players that dont want to go I'll buy into your Ashley theory. I find your pro Ashley stance tiresome, honestly you're getting right on my tits. I read your threads and think this cunt is on the wind up, and fine if you are but you're a mug. Signing Tiote what £3m? Not sellin Enrique, pah that was good of him, and who's to say any offers were on the table. The fact is another relegation will cost TTFCMA more than 8 or 9m he'd get in from selling Enrique, he realises this. We won't be selling Carroll though. You big fucking Jesse. If you cant hack differing opinions on football I suggest you nip along to the newsagents and buy a copy of Shoot or play on your PS3 instead. As long as people keep blabbering on about where going to sell ths one or that one and we dont, I'll keep putting the true facts across. So far I think im right on the last 3 or 4 windows. There are one or two clubs that can afford to splash the cash. We are getting the finances under control, giving decent players long contracts and finding good young players and bringing good young players through. Honestly, a big fucking jesse. People can have differing opinions, and you can have yours, but when their stance is as pathetic as yours, I'm allowed to shake my head, particularly when you're so blinkered to the situation Ashley has created, you either have no clue about the game or are deliberately being offensive. Your immediate support of him and his decision to replace Hughton with Pardew sums you up tbh. He could sell Carroll for £1m and you'd find the positive, it's tiresome pal. And your and others blindness to what has actually gone on over the past 18 months with regard to players coming in and going out is pathetic in my eyes. How many players have been sold against their will?

Its call considered opinion in grown up land. Having one opinion and never changing is for young boys and muppets.

Just keep watching me be right every window

I think your optimistic view at the moment is welcome from a balancing pov even if I don't agree with it but trusting Ashley after all that's gone on isn't optimism - it's stupidity. Its based on the fact he hasnt sold anyone who didnt want to be away. He didnt cash in on Enrique, Jonas etc etc as most predicted when we were relegated. Wanting to balance the books before all else , yes.... a history of getting rid of our best players, no. Quite the opposite in fact over the last 18 months. Currently securing good talent on long term deals, signing Tiote, Ben Arfa and whatever comes in January. When we actually sell players that dont want to go I'll buy into your Ashley theory. I find your pro Ashley stance tiresome, honestly you're getting right on my tits. I read your threads and think this cunt is on the wind up, and fine if you are but you're a mug. Signing Tiote what £3m? Not sellin Enrique, pah that was good of him, and who's to say any offers were on the table. The fact is another relegation will cost TTFCMA more than 8 or 9m he'd get in from selling Enrique, he realises this. We won't be selling Carroll though. You big fucking Jesse. If you cant hack differing opinions on football I suggest you nip along to the newsagents and buy a copy of Shoot or play on your PS3 instead. As long as people keep blabbering on about where going to sell ths one or that one and we dont, I'll keep putting the true facts across. So far I think im right on the last 3 or 4 windows. There are one or two clubs that can afford to splash the cash. We are getting the finances under control, giving decent players long contracts and finding good young players and bringing good young players through. Honestly, a big fucking jesse.

Tell me who'll score them and I'll pop to the bookies. Nolan 2 barton 2.

Do you ever pay attention. I've discussed many times on here how I gave up my season ticket when KK left. Unlike the likes of Alex who had paid in full, I was on installments and able to get out. I now go when it's affordable / suits me My last game was boxing day v man city. What about you? Well given your general postings, you don't appear to be on the bread line. And you're not boycotting it because of Ashley. So the answer is that you don't go because you couldn't be arsed? Gets an answer but dodges the questions again

A true mystic walks among us.

We did, and then he broke his leg.... Aye he's not an out and out winger though and I don't think he was bought as Jonas replacement specifically, we need to find the new Ryan Giggs. cough cough........Shane Ferguson bollocks. absolute shit. ferguson is 2 years away from being tough enough for the premiership. So just tough enough for the likes of John terry et al.

Quite, but hey ho...we might have a great striker ready to sign on Monday morning.

I think your optimistic view at the moment is welcome from a balancing pov even if I don't agree with it but trusting Ashley after all that's gone on isn't optimism - it's stupidity. Its based on the fact he hasnt sold anyone who didnt want to be away. He didnt cash in on Enrique, Jonas etc etc as most predicted when we were relegated. Wanting to balance the books before all else , yes.... a history of getting rid of our best players, no. Quite the opposite in fact over the last 18 months. Currently securing good talent on long term deals, signing Tiote, Ben Arfa and whatever comes in January. When we actually sell players that dont want to go I'll buy into your Ashley theory.

wanted to post the picture of Keegan leaving by helicopter which will always be one of my iconic nufc memories. Was sat on the wall under the old scoreboard that night.

Most mental pic I've ever seen. You see when the wave hit, you seen it go in to the shore, and you thought well fuckin hell just stand in front of it, it's not that bad, then you hear 300,000 deed. I can't be the only one who thought how did that kill 300,000 at the time. I mean you see them surfers in Australia riding bigger waves than that. When you saw the devastation though you realised how bad it was. The resort I stayed in in Thailand was descimated, we would've been fucked because we were never away from the beach and the beach bar. I would love to know what happened to that bloke. Was about this time at year as well wasn't it? RIP the 300,000 can't believe it's 4 years ago. It's a bloody surreal isn't. His fate was probably that of many, washed back out into the ocean when the tide [or fast flowing river to put it better] sucked a copius amount of the living and the dead back out there, to eventually become shark biscuits for ocean predators & scavengers. There was a prediction at the time that something like 100k lost their lives in this manner, many whose remains were never recovered. The lore of the land [especially along the coastal fringes] amongst the Indo locals is 'you see the tide level drop out suddenly, you run for higher ground, or at the very least climb a tree'. If the tree snaps you've at least got something to hold onto for dear life. It's what i was i told when surfing Lagundri Bay, Nias. Nias was also hit, although not to the same extent as some of the other islands & coastal areas. It's superficial to talk about this in context of the human tragedy, but the force of quake itself [and the lifting of the seismic plates] actually permanently lifted a bucketload of the reefs from their previous levels, by a matter of feet. It's affected the shape of many world class reef breaks [including Nias], but most importantly their consistency. These days alot of them need a bigger swell [and higher tide] before they start working & playing up to their old form & magnificence. A mate of mine was on a chartered surf trip through the Mentawai Islands, roughly about a month after the disaster. He witnessed floating & bloated cadavers regularly drifting by their vessel - every half hour or so. Many were missing limbs, fully and partially chewed off by sharks etc. Oh my god would be like dying in a wet hoover, you can see what's happening but can't do fuck all about it. Hard to believe Tynemouth and Whitley Bay had a much bigger one than that 200 years ago too. Really? Think that would be a canny tale to start a local history thread.

I hope I'm not as cynical as you in my 40's. I don't know how many times he has to say he only wants to play at NUFC before people will believe him. He has a long contract and can't be forced out if he doesn't want to be. Spot on plus the manager has come out and said he has spoken to Ashley and he will not be sold. Carrols going to be a big miss but Im sure we can cope. Might even be refreshing if we play a bit of football on the ground rather than lumping crosses up and hoping carrol will flick it on, collect the flick on himself and score.

Read the thread properly and you'd have already seen them. Oh right, I was expecting the quotes to say he was ready for the PL - as you intimated. They basically just say he was having a good game and is a good prospect. Beardsley went on to say "What Fergie did at Chelsea surpassed our expectations, and proves, if needed, he can play there again".

We did, and then he broke his leg.... Aye he's not an out and out winger though and I don't think he was bought as Jonas replacement specifically, we need to find the new Ryan Giggs. cough cough........Shane Ferguson

Read the thread properly and you'd have already seen them.