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but the cups man, the cups. BestBaNone thinks even the smoggies have been more supportable than us over the 90's and early 00's because they won the League Cup, so what is he going to think of Liverpool when they spend years being miles ahead of us in every department again, in spite of their inferior transfer policy ?

You're universally recognised as a figure of ridicule on here. You were banned from NO, not, as you'd like to believe, because everyone on there is stupid, but because you were for a long time the figure of ridicule on there too but eventually people got tired of your endless stupidity. They're getting tired of it here too, hence your spell in the crèche last week. You're not a lone visionary in a sea of idiots. You ARE the idiot. Think about that the next time you tell someone how thick they are for not seeing things your way. If you had any self awareness at all or were remotely capable of critical thinking, this would have dawned on you a long time ago, and you might not have made such a cunt of yourself over the last 5 years. The point stands that we were on the slide and set up for financial oblivion when Ashley took over. A fact that everyone but you can grasp (again, NOT the lone visionary, but the idiot). those people on here who haven't got a clue, I'm not bothered if they don't agree with me, and even less bothered when they don't go to games and don't listen. The joke is on them. Do you really think I give a toss what a bunch of out of towners and non-matchgoers think of what I say when I know that I'm right ? Fact is Gem, they would love to prove me wrong, but can't. Mike Ashley decided ages ago to run the club as a sideline to Sports Direct, to promote the company with a premiership football club. All he wants to do with this purpose is to preserve premiership status, this is the limit of his ambition along with making a profit even a small one so to that end he will sell a player if an operational profit is not made. I've said this for years. How much longer are you and these other fuckwits going to disagree with me ? The truth is staring you in the face, but if you are so thick you are fooled by a few results and a half decent season or two then how stupid is that ? Some people on NO have admitted that I was in fact right all that time, and some others still carry on spouting the same old bollocks. I was banned for saying the same thing [which has now been proved right, and I'm still saying it because it hasn't as yet been shown to be incorrect - think about it] but I was banned because too many people disagreed with me and moaned on because I didn't agree with them, like Gloomy on here and a few others in fact. Bairns. You can bookmark any of these threads where I say the same thing to people like you, and you'll be looking at them again in a few years time and find that you are unable to show that I was wrong, because the direction this club is heading down is exactly as I am telling you.

We're definitely a bigger club than Man City, I'll give him that. worst thing about Leeds, is you were nothing before Don Revie, you had never done anything, or been anybody. That was a great era, but you now consider yourselves to be bigger than you are on account of it. You are in the 2nd batch of "big clubs" alongside the likes of Villa, Wolves, West Ham etc etc and thats it. I hate Ken Bates though, cockney wanker, and Warnock is a pretty good manager who should have managed a big team earlier in his career after Scarborough and Notts County. He might have a few probs with Bates too.

Take out the first Keegan tenure (which was our real zenith, steadily downhill since then) our average "finish" was 9.4th, that still good enough for 5th best ??? Mate you wouldn't say that in most pubs because people would hit you. Fuckin what an arsehole. C U N T Either a mackem or a cunt, 50/50 either way. Toonspac is an apt name.

fuck me It's a perfectly reasonable point. You can't jump from 5th under Shepherd to 10th under Ashley, when a truer representation is that we'd been on the slide for some time under your old chummy chum chum. we were 7th only a year before the club was sold to Mike Ashley, if you call that a "slide", what are you going to say to those who will be wanking themselves to death if we finish 7th once under soopa Mike ? The point, is to compare the league positions over the entire tenure of the owners, and we won't even mention the massive head start that soopa Mike had against taking over a club on its knees heading for the 3rd division, as I've also pointed out. Are you always so thick, even when you're not pretending to be ?

canny to see Liverpools waste of money paying no dividends like One Cup Final. [bestBaNone will have a wank if they win] Home draw in quarter final of another, and 7th in the league. Of course, our policy of selling our best players and not backing the manager is "better"

well, Clough played for sunderland, but that doesn't really matter, I've bought the book because its about Clough and if its owt like a couple of others I've read, it will be a good read.

Happy Birthday mate

I don't remember anyone saying "anybody would be better than Fred" j bollocks

A mixture of a huge sponsorship deal, qualifying for the Uefa cup which their fans got behind and a boost in sky revenue. Those were the achievements. I'm asking how they achieved it. Huge sponsorship deals aren't bestowed on clubs for running a tight ship, they go to clubs with a big following (we dwarf Spurs) and on field success. exactly.

Look at the above you silly old cunt. Levy ran it like a football club of value, which is why their income has went up 250%, whereas Sugar ran it with little ambition and foresight, how is that difficult to understand? Your thickness knows no bounds. Yes Spurs have outperformed NUFC and yes their turnover has soared. BUT it’s been done on the back of ONLY spending what they made (or a wee bit less some years). They have earned some money and spent it well and as a result earned a bit more money spent that bit more money well, rinse and repeat. They have not EVER thought or done “Oooh things are going canny, let’s borrow £20 Million and see if we can get there faster”. It just has not happened. They have not as yet ever deviated from the model of only spending what they earn. That is obviously interpreted in Stevie world (because you’re thick) as: Oh look Spurs have made their turnover soar, they must have chucked ridiculous sums at the team to make that happen. So it must be a fact. It’s totally and irrefutably an incorrect premise but in Stevie-world (and maybe some particularly dense goldfish’s brain) it’s now a fact. Laughable and what did NUFC do to lift a team from one foot in the 3rd division, that couldn't sell for 1.25m with a half full cowshed of a stadium, into the 5th highest league position in the country, one of the best stadiums in europe, and 14th in the football rich list ? Your stupidity knows no bounds.

Spurs have never spent more than they earned, yet they've still managed, within that framework, to make that "what they earn" grow, so what they can spend in relation becomes greater, they do not ever break that rule (or haven't yet). You are wrong (not a suprise) - They have never speculated (gone out on a limb financially) to accumulate. That is a 100% fact. They have sold well (high) and bought well (cheaper), consistently. Exactly the same model as NUFC's current model, whether we can keep it consistent is another matter. This is about football you ignoramus. Look at the above you silly old cunt. Levy ran it like a football club of value, which is why their income has went up 250%, whereas Sugar ran it with little ambition and foresight, how is that difficult to understand? far too difficult Stevie, tapping into the mindset of the real supporters. Now who would possibly do such a thing ?

Ye Gods.........all soopa Mike had to do was cut costs etc and be better than the hopeless Fred ? What could possibly have gone wrong, now the club is in the hands of such a financial whizz kid ? To give Toonspac and his chums on here and skunkers a hint, shirts for Shola Ameobi in the Far East are selling in their millions just like before, and the sponsorship deals have doubled and there is a waiting list. Good old Mike, but at least we aren't wasting money on quality footballers who shot us into the Champions League instead.

Utter crap MugFool, as usual. Spurs are operating within their means and have done for years. They have been doing EXACTLY what we now appear to be doing, they however, have a multi-year headstart on us. To think or say different is pure ignorance. No you complete erectile disfunction old doilum. Sugar never speculated to accumulate, whereas Levy has to an extent while retaining their wage ceiling. Sugar devalued the club he ran it as a functional business within its' means, they were getting pennies off HOLSTEN and PONY, they now have one of the largest sponsorship deals in football with Mansion House, because of how Levy has enhanced the clubs stature. They pay big fees, they largely didn't other than a few spectacular failures like Dean Richards under Sugar's rein. The fact is Tottenham's income has doubled now under Levy compared to what it was under Sugar, speculate to accumulate. LM is right you hardly ever talk about football, I doubt you're even capable of it, and when you do talk about the financial stuff, your knowledge is about as empty as the mackems upper tier on Saturday night.

Spot on that. Utter crap MugFool, as usual. Spurs are operating within their means and have done for years. They have been doing EXACTLY what we now appear to be doing, they however, have a multi-year headstart on us. To think or say different is pure ignorance. are you capable of making sensible football posts on a football message board ?

and the season in the lower division should also count. People will still defend this decline though.

Take out the first Keegan tenure (which was our real zenith, steadily downhill since then) our average "finish" was 9.4th, that still good enough for 5th best ??? fuck me

you're showing your gullibility. I've no problem with someone being young, but you ought to listen to people who have seen more than you.

It could be that we're aiming for a CB of Colo's level and our target wasn't available in January. Pardew identified CB as an area of concern so it's safe to say that the club will have looked at the possibility of signing someone but for whatever reason the deal didn't happen. I think that's how it was too, he even said about Mariappa that if he doesn't come now then that's it as we won't be in for him in the summer. I'm happy for them to wait to get who they want even if it is a risk, a short term loan until the end of the season would have been ideal. that all depends on the quality of the "player they want". Don't expect too much, and don't expect them to do it without selling a top player either. I would say that the hierarchy [not the manager] is happy with what we have, because they "are doing OK" and there is no real desire to do better. Which only takes you one way.

Mike Ashley running the club on a different footing has fuck all to do with any "financial brain anticipating the future" either, its quite simply that he decided long ago to run the club as a vehicle to sit alongside his sports company and preserve premiership status with as small an outlay as possible. If he doesn't make an operational profit, he'll get it by selling a top player. This is what I've said for nearly 5 years now, and people are still bickering on about it and insisting differently. It's as obvious as the nose on your face, a decent season and maybe even 1 qualification for the Europa Cup isn't going to change that, because it is selling your best players and replacing with cheaper is not sustainable, the luck will run out and the policy will be obvious to everybody - although they won't admit it. As if they should need to be told any more, fooled by a decent run of results. This is as sad and stupid as it gets. Pretty sure he done it as what he bought was a club that couldn't sustain itself with how it was currently operating. Now we're on a much more solid financial footing as well as having a better squad than what he was left with, yet that means we've gone backwards. I like the optimism, better name is gullibility though. Same thing as I said to all those cretins on NO years ago, who insisted "anybody would be better than Fred". If we finish 7th and qualify for europe, he will not build on it, keep our best players and add to them. You'll see.

Spot on that. The difference between Spurs now and us ten years ago is that Spurs have managed to do it while making a profit. However, how sustainable that is remains to be seen. While we were making operating profits but making overall losses because of player trading, Spurs have been making operating losses but more than covering them with profit on player sales. If they want to compete with the big boys then they can't do that forever. they also haven't brainwashed stupid supporters into accepting they have no chance of competing with Man City or Chelsea Have you looked at the league table recently , or are you stuck in your little world ?

Just taking into account top flight finishes, the clubs averaging top 10 over the 14 years following our promotion, before Ashley's arrival were... 1.6 Man U 3.2 Arsenal 4.1 Liverpool 5.4 Chelsea 7.6 Newcastle 8.1 Leeds (11 year average) 9.2 Blackburn (12 year average) 9.4 Villa 9.9 Spurs Being 6th best never did Leeds any good either like. I'm sure they enjoyed their days in the Champions League though, rather than clinging on to premiership survival and having absolutely nothing to show or look back on as football supporters. You've got to go for the success, and enjoy it while it is there. I believe Toonspac said that once

I think with the financial fair play rules coming in as well as the government demanding clubs sort their finances out things should change in our favour as long as they're both enforced properly, it couldn't have come at a better time for us as in terms of the financial side of things we're where a lot of clubs will want to be so it's a good head start. Mike Ashley running the club on a different footing has fuck all to do with any "financial brain anticipating the future" either, its quite simply that he decided long ago to run the club as a vehicle to sit alongside his sports company and preserve premiership status with as small an outlay as possible. If he doesn't make an operational profit, he'll get it by selling a top player. This is what I've said for nearly 5 years now, and people are still bickering on about it and insisting differently. It's as obvious as the nose on your face, a decent season and maybe even 1 qualification for the Europa Cup isn't going to change that, because it is selling your best players and replacing with cheaper is not sustainable, the luck will run out and the policy will be obvious to everybody - although they won't admit it. As if they should need to be told any more, fooled by a decent run of results. This is as sad and stupid as it gets.

its the 5th highest Nobody is 1st every year, so nobody is 1st on average, but these positions are the 5th highest ? You see this, of course you do. Gotcha, all these years with you banging on about 5th and I never realised that's what you meant. Sounds reasonable. Not done the sums like. Assume you have. did them 5 years ago but even without that, the only 4 clubs obviously higher are ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. Villa were 6th actually, but I think they and someone else has overtaken us since, more proof of our declining fortunes, if it should be needed. The fact that it has taken 5 years to even get within sniffing distance of 5th top, and been relegated, says everything. I stand by what I say. The club is in decline, whatever people say about the old regime not having the money of Abramovic and a bunch of Arabs. The past owners didn't have the money of Jack Walker either, but backed their managers and ran the club with as much ambition as they could and we finished above Blackburn a few times. Spurs are giving it a good shot like we did, since they replaced their owner [Alan Sugar] who "ran them like a business, within their means". Ourselves and Spurs have swapped places, because we have swapped footballing outlooks, it comes down to that in the end. I've said this elsewhere, this is the truth about Spurs, they are run by football men and we are not. Its got fuck all to do with anything else, and anyone who says we are doing what Spurs do is an idiot, we have done fuck all like Spurs for the last 5 years now.

To be fair Leazes... (3+6+2+2+13+13+11+11+4+3+5+14+7+13)/14 = 7.6 its the 5th highest Nobody is 1st every year, so nobody is 1st on average, but these positions are the 5th highest ? You see this, of course you do.