LeazesMag

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/herefor...rcs/4577740.stm no doubt the do-gooders will say he's "done his time"

the Souness backers are pretty quiet

so you are saying that we should have gone on into the season with Shearer as our only forward/striker ? [that would have been down to Souness] 75766[/snapback] That doesn't appear to be what he's saying tbh. 75770[/snapback] do i really need to put the first line on bold - my whole post is addressing the desperate situation we were in before the deadline, thanks to Souness' ego and behaving like a complete amateur

so you are saying that we should have gone on into the season with Shearer as our only forward/striker ? [that would have been down to Souness]

glad you admit it didn't take a genius to work it out, so what does it say for those that didn't ? Winning the FA Cup with a team used to winning the league and finishing in it's lowest league position for over 30 years... Buys and sales are reflected in league position, points and prrformances, look at those and there is your answer. making it known good players were available at any price was down to FS was it ? I don't think so. Likewise, the result of that which left us with one 35 year old striker a week before the transfer deadline and a desperate position where we were charged 26m quid for 2 forwards was FS fault ? And we have to find a good partner for Owen ths summer yet, assuming he stays ... Morale certainly hasn't always been low....only a few years ago we were a top 4/5 team, reached the 2nd phase of the CL, won 9 away games, won almost every game after travelling to europe, and came from behind to win more than anyone else in the premiership.....all this with the "cancer" in the dressing room the point is, you backed him because you thought he would be successful.......this is a website, what we say has NO effect on the players when they play.....however if people had reacted publically when it became obvious this manager was putting himself before the club, and assaulting his player on the training ground, we may have got rid of him and still had the basis of our top 5 team , with someone else using that money to strengthen it properly instead of ripping it up * yes, we will see....is this why Shay Given is thinking about moving, because he prefers a "happy" dressing room to a top side playing in europe and a reasonable chance of winnig a cup on the platform of that Craig Bellamy walked off the trainig ground to discuss his problem with his manager, with his chairman, in PRIVATE. So fuckwit goes and makes a big deal of it, instead of dealing with the ones who didn't bother turning up for actual games .... Only a complete wanker takes off the best player on the field [v Charlton] for no other reason than making a point of authority ie put timself before the club, the same as he did with Robert against Sporting Lisbon. For 9,5m quid, which could have been spent somewhere else ie a striker rather than whinge on about having a small squad, Luque isn't different to Robert from what we've seen so far my mate says this, but i can honestly say, since Souness walked into this club, it feels like a black cloud, I knew he would fuck the club up, so why should suport a man who is gouing to do this [see previous point] *

zzzzzzzzz stick to the tabloids ....

Swap Spanish for French and you could well be talking about Benfica's latest acquisition! 75651[/snapback] and his replacement at Newcastle ..... 9.5m quid later

you miss the point completely. The "Souness out" people [like me and Renton], said this because we had absolutely no confidence in Souness to be successful.......in addition we feared the very scenario that has happened ie bad sales/overspending, poor morale, poor results. So, we were right. Whereas the Souness backers must have wanted to "give him time" presumably because they thought he would be successful, why else would you say give him time ? In addition to this, you have all swallowed the line of a "happy dressing room" coming before results, and believed the agenda he conducted in the press towards Bellamy and Robert, putting his ego before the good of the club. The proof of this is in the results, they are worse, and the performances too are a lot worse. yet you all said "but the dressing room is better" [how do you know it is ?] For a LOT of money. Therefore your faith in Souness was misplaced. You were wrong. And if you had looked at his track record, it didn't take too much to forecast.

Souness is writing his script

I laughed when he said that ! Shows how thick the stupid cunt is if he harks back to 30,000 geordies taking the piss out of him

is his position becoming untenable now ... if todays sky interview was a setup to help him [and it certainly looks that way as they said most e-mails backed him which is complete bollocks] then its backfired big style

it's about to be repeated........kelly dalglish and the bloke next to her say they have mostly backed him

he confirmed he thinks he is the right man for the job they want e-mails asking what we think of him u2us@skysports.com I've just sent one in, ending with "shut the door on your way out Graeme"

he's shown himself to be unable to take criticism numerous times before now

spot on

llike who ? Chelsea, man u ? If Parker is so good, why did Chelsea sell him...why didn't manu come in for him ? Why did no one else come in for Luque if he is so good ? 74074[/snapback] You saying Parker's no good then Leazes? no. I'm explaining that taking such an angle [which someone else did] is daft. you haven't read the thread properly haven't you... i'm not bashing anybody, just making an assessment - why is it that if you don't think a NUFC player is class etc you are bashing them....this is rose tinted specs © mentality mate I thought Viana was too slow for the premiership. also too soft to play in central midfield....I thought his best position - if he was going to a success - would be in the hole where he could use his good eye for a quick forward ball, and not much need for aggression. Basically also, if he couldn't be slotted into such a role, then it was a waste of time buying him. Pretty much the way I still see him. It's how I see Luque..it's not questioning anyones perceived ability, more a case of will he give you what you want from your players, does he have what you think you need to be successful in the premiership, if not, why buy them ?

What odds though? 74190[/snapback] Evens 74191[/snapback] no one was that quick to bet me in august that Souness would match Bobby Robsons 5th place, ie the team he inherited before he set about his "improvements" 74195[/snapback] How can that be though, when "the vast majority" thought he would get us into the Champions League? Surely SOMEONE in that vast majority you speak of took the bet? 74198[/snapback] you find the post, and i'll take the money 74221[/snapback] You find the post where you offered the bet first 74223[/snapback] http://www.toontastic.net/forum/index.php?...pic=1762&st=180 i did it a few times, but this is one

What odds though? 74190[/snapback] Evens 74191[/snapback] no one was that quick to bet me in august that Souness would match Bobby Robsons 5th place, ie the team he inherited before he set about his "improvements" 74195[/snapback] How can that be though, when "the vast majority" thought he would get us into the Champions League? Surely SOMEONE in that vast majority you speak of took the bet? 74198[/snapback] you find the post, and i'll take the money

that is all correct. Are we on the same side here Craig .... ? I say Keegan isn't a "quitter", unfortunately I understand the reasons he left, which were because he had integrity, he wasn't happy with the change of direction and losing out in the title ripped the heart out of him

What odds though? 74190[/snapback] Evens 74191[/snapback] no one was that quick to bet me in august that Souness would match Bobby Robsons 5th place, ie the team he inherited before he set about his "improvements"

Sorry I read your twice what we got as twice what we paid - not that big a diff however. Give Luque time.... 74147[/snapback] He doesn't need to. LM is an expert on whether someone is going to make it or not. I think he should be our next manager 74149[/snapback] thank you.....now where should I start ....

swap 'belief' for 'hope' and you're spot on... 74144[/snapback] I've already said that 74146[/snapback] no, swap "common sense" for either

llike who ? Chelsea, man u ? If Parker is so good, why did Chelsea sell him...why didn't manu come in for him ? Why did no one else come in for Luque if he is so good ? Your point makes no sense and you know it. If you have watched newcastle this season, you will know we have missed Craig Bellamy massively, he was worth double what we got for him, at least, and you know that too 74074[/snapback] There is nobody on this planet who would pay £12m for an injury prone troublemaker who has never scored more than a dozen goals a year. Get real. I said he was important to us but in the market place he was virtually worthless. If you think thats Souness' fault then fine - obviously none of the other "top" clubs could wait to get their hands on such a bargain - maybe not Chelsea but what about Spurs, Everton, Bolton or even Boro who all bought strikers in the timeframe? 74134[/snapback] who said 12m quid ? Put against Luque for 9.5m though .......

Our results without Souness' get out of jail card doesn't inspire much confidence.. as expected there are some with rose tinted specs ©

no more than you are Gordon [i'm alright jack] Mckeag